Jays Acquire Harold Ramirez, Reese McGuire, Francisco Liriano for Hutch

[King]

Tellez reminds me a lot of David Ortiz athletically. Sew a super athletic upper body with good rotational mechanics onto a stiff, unathletic pair of legs, and you get Ortiz and Tellez. They may even have comparable raw power, the difference being Ortiz’ ability to utilize that power effectively with a better swing path for putting the ball in the air.

 

The ball jumps off Tellez’ bat, but he’s very choppy getting to contact, limiting his power mostly to pitches up in the zone, where his plane is forced to level out more. What may save him from being a slugger who doesn’t slug enough is his raw hitting ability: Tellez has shown better contact rates than you’d expect and, partially as a result, the potential for a plus hit tool. Also, though his speed is extremely limited, he’s a smart base-runner who won’t kill you with poor decisions when he gets on.

Though he’s not a sure thing with the bat yet, I could very easily see him in the 50+ group without having to squint. I felt more comfortable with him here until he can make some swing adjustments. His bat will get him some kind of opportunity either way.

 

Gibbers. Why did you cut Tellez in DDL this past June when he finally had a little bit of value, after holding onto him for a couple years after you drafted him 10th overall?

 

I'm not bashing the decision. Just curious to hear your reasoning behind it.

[FrozenRopes]

This thread went from people freaking out about SRF to us pillaging the Pirates. With Russell and Liriano having worked together, I can't wait to see him work.

 

One thing that pisses me off is that it likely costs Sanchez a real shot at a Cy Young.

[Governator]

I'm really looking forward to getting to know the new prospects from King's daily updates. This is really exciting news and we finally have another catcher in the system with some value. Thanks Hutch for all the years of service, good luck in Pittsburgh.

[Laika]

Reese McGuire could probably slide into the backup role right now and be worth more than Thole.

 

People think he is a zero with the bat but his contact skills look good on paper (29 walks and only 26 K's this year in 77 games!) and he's only 21.

[Rusty_Savage]

Awesome f***ing trade

[Laika]

Harold Ramirez and the Yankees new OF prospect Billy McKinney are cut from the same cloth, so it will be interesting to see how they develop in the same division.

 

Two guys without CF chops and without big power or speed - but strong hit tools.

[BlueRocky]

This thread went from people freaking out about SRF to us pillaging the Pirates. With Russell and Liriano having worked together, I can't wait to see him work.

 

One thing that pisses me off is that it likely costs Sanchez a real shot at a Cy Young.

 

Aaron is the real deal and will have many chances the next 5-7 years to compete for CY young. But if his arm blows up now, we just lost the ace.

He will make the bullpen much stronger, something we also desperately need

[Jimcanuck]

This thread went from people freaking out about SRF to us pillaging the Pirates. With Russell and Liriano having worked together, I can't wait to see him work.

 

One thing that pisses me off is that it likely costs Sanchez a real shot at a Cy Young.

 

 

Sanchez is young. If he is truly legit, and not just having a anomaly of a season, he will get plenty more chances. As long as he is healthy!

[Jonn]

This thread went from people freaking out about SRF to us pillaging the Pirates. With Russell and Liriano having worked together, I can't wait to see him work.

 

One thing that pisses me off is that it likely costs Sanchez a real shot at a Cy Young.

 

I have no idea why anyone thought SRF would be included in this trade unless we got Starling Marte as well.

[King]

Brendan Kennedy ‏@BKennedyStar 24s24 seconds ago

Jays roster housekeeping: Ben Rowen DFA'd to make room for Mike Bolsinger, who was optioned to Buffalo. Ramirez optioned to Double-A NH.

 

 

Goodbye Ben Rowen.

[Laika]

Brendan Kennedy ‏@BKennedyStar 24s24 seconds ago

Jays roster housekeeping: Ben Rowen DFA'd to make room for Mike Bolsinger, who was optioned to Buffalo. Ramirez optioned to Double-A NH.

 

 

Goodbye Ben Rowen.

 

:(:(:(

[King]

:(:(:(

Why would we DFA him over Brady Dragmire? Dragmire is terrible.

[fatcowxlive]

Brendan Kennedy ‏@BKennedyStar 24s24 seconds ago

Jays roster housekeeping: Ben Rowen DFA'd to make room for Mike Bolsinger, who was optioned to Buffalo. Ramirez optioned to Double-A NH.

 

 

Goodbye Ben Rowen.

Isn't he the reliever you've been touting?

[Laika]

Ben Rowen doesn't even know how to throw

 

http://assets1.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Rowen-Lead-1040x572.jpg

[King]

Isn't he the reliever you've been touting?

No that's Danny Barnes. But Rowen is good too.

[Cyborg]

Im gonna miss Hutch, but this is a great deal.

[Boxcar]

I really hope all the stupid bandwagon retards who hated Shapiro before ever giving him a chance actually realize how f***ing stupid they are. This was an amazing deadline.

[jaysguy44]

I really hope all the stupid bandwagon retards who hated Shapiro before ever giving him a chance actually realize how f***ing stupid they are. This was an amazing deadline.

 

You said it Boxcar!

[Jonn]

What would you rather have.

 

17M of Lirano or 17M of Puig?

[HERPDERP]

What would you rather have.

 

17M of Lirano or 17M of Puig?

 

why not both

[closetjaysfan]

Im not convinced that this means Sanchez goes to the pen.. didnt someone say they were looking at creative options? What if they plan on going with a 6 man rotation giving extra rest for Sanchez and Estrada? Im sure they could keep Happ at every 5 starts since he is pitching so well.

[GeorgiaPeach]

Gibbers. Why did you cut Tellez in DDL this past June when he finally had a little bit of value, after holding onto him for a couple years after you drafted him 10th overall?

 

I'm not bashing the decision. Just curious to hear your reasoning behind it.

 

I have no idea about that decision. I've really just been coasting in most fantasy leagues. My life's been a train wreck for the past 10 months.

[Stangstag]

Im not convinced that this means Sanchez goes to the pen.. didnt someone say they were looking at creative options? What if they plan on going with a 6 man rotation giving extra rest for Sanchez and Estrada? Im sure they could keep Happ at every 5 starts since he is pitching so well.

 

Atkins is talking about moving Sanchez to the pen very soon, and then possibly having him start again when the playoffs roll around.

[King]

I have no idea about that decision. I've really just been coasting in most fantasy leagues. My life's been a train wreck for the past 10 months.

Thanks. Sorry to hear that. Hope things get better!

[Pinkfloid]

Thanks. Sorry to hear that. Hope things get better!

 

Same here.

[Cyborg]

Atkins is talking about moving Sanchez to the pen very soon, and then possibly having him start again when the playoffs roll around.

 

Sounds good to me.

[vilifyingforce]

Reese McGuire could probably slide into the backup role right now and be worth more than Thole.

 

People think he is a zero with the bat but his contact skills look good on paper (29 walks and only 26 K's this year in 77 games!) and he's only 21.

 

So he profiles like Thole offensively? At 21 Thole was in Hi-A with a 300/382/427 slash line and 45 walks to 38 K's in 111 games.

 

 

Atkins is talking about moving Sanchez to the pen very soon, and then possibly having him start again when the playoffs roll around.

 

Atkins was on Tim and Sid and said once Sanchez hits the pen he's staying there the rest of the season.

[Laika]

So he profiles like Thole offensively? At 21 Thole was in Hi-A with a 300/382/427 slash line and 45 walks to 38 K's in 111 games.

 

Thole had a significant skill change / decline. When he came into the league he actually hit for AVG and had real OBP skills - he was basically a viable starting catcher and league average talent.

 

Not sure what happened to him. Maybe once he started catching the knuckleball it f***ed him up completely.

[Grant77]

So he profiles like Thole offensively? At 21 Thole was in Hi-A with a 300/382/427 slash line and 45 walks to 38 K's in 111 games.

 

 

 

 

Atkins was on Tim and Sid and said once Sanchez hits the pen he's staying there the rest of the season.

 

That's a pretty useless comparison.

[King]

So he profiles like Thole offensively? At 21 Thole was in Hi-A with a 300/382/427 slash line and 45 walks to 38 K's in 111 games.

 

 

 

 

Atkins was on Tim and Sid and said once Sanchez hits the pen he's staying there the rest of the season.

 

Thole when he first came up was actually a decent hitter. League average bat from 2009-2011. He sucks now though, obviously.