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I think part of it is Gibbons leaves him in too long as well. His numbers the 3rd and 4th time through the order are worse relative to what an average pitcher loses in effectiveness. Being a smaller guy maybe he fatigues more quickly.

 

He threw more 4 seams than 2 seams today and only 3 changeups so its naive to say his struggles are strictly pitch selection. Curveball was the best I've seen since 2014 so that gives me optimism. He's also faced some pretty damn good offences of late. With a couple of off days coming up perhaps that helps him. Let him have a few more starts then see where he's at. Still a hell of a lot better than Dickey.

 

he sucked from opening pitch

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Atkins on Stroman: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-concerned-stromans-struggles/

 

He says that Stroman "has done everything we've asked of him to try and improve". Does this mean he's getting bad advice, just not that good anymore, or it's mostly bad luck?

 

I will say it again, his height is part of the issue andand he does not have Pedro's stuff. He will make an adequate starter, his starting career is going to be short lived.

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Atkins on Stroman: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-concerned-stromans-struggles/

 

He says that Stroman "has done everything we've asked of him to try and improve". Does this mean he's getting bad advice, just not that good anymore, or it's mostly bad luck?

 

It could mean all those things, a couple, or none. But mostly it probably means the GM isn't going to throw his young starter under the bus in the middle of a season that is otherwise going well for the rest of the squad. I'd say it's likelier that there's something up with Stroman than not. Maybe not injury-wise, but lots of his pitches look weak and ugly and predictably get clobbered. It could just be an enormous rut.

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he sucked from opening pitch

 

The 3rd inning he looked like 2014-15 Stro. The rest of the game he sucked.

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I will say it again, his height is part of the issue andand he does not have Pedro's stuff. He will make an adequate starter, his starting career is going to be short lived.

 

How can you say this has to do with height when he hasnt been throwing 4sm that much AND his 4sm isnt the pitch that's getting clobbered? You're just using anything to justify your point.

Dude threw conventional pitching out the door, doesn't locate, doesn't set up his pitches well ofcourse he's getting smacked. 2sm sinker will never have an effective sequence unless they're hackers like the Rays.

Sure he's been throwing more 4sm lately, but has he been hitting the corners of the plate? Has he been pitching in to set up the pitch on the outer half? Has he been throwing the high fastball to setup the curve in the dirt?

Not consistently NO. He is too often a step behind the hitter. Martin isn't helping either. I think Navarro called a more intelligent game honestly.

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you can keep sucking his dick all you want, but he sucked from the getgo

 

To be fair, it sounded like you meant Opening pitch as in Opening day.

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you can keep sucking his dick all you want, but he sucked from the getgo

 

What the f*** is wrong with youyou? If you talked to me like that in the street I would beat you unconscious. This is a public forum, grow up.

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What the f*** is wrong with youyou? If you talked to me like that in the street I would beat you unconscious. This is a public forum, grow up.

 

Hmmmm. I don't really think you can take the moral high ground here.

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What the f*** is wrong with youyou? If you talked to me like that in the street I would beat you unconscious. This is a public forum, grow up.

 

You threaten to beat someone unconscious on the street for insulting you and then ask them to grow up because this is a public forum? While you were beating them on the street would that not be a public venue?

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What the f*** is wrong with youyou? If you talked to me like that in the street I would beat you unconscious. This is a public forum, grow up.

 

I don't think people will let you beat up on a woman

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What the f*** is wrong with youyou? If you talked to me like that in the street I would beat you unconscious. This is a public forum, grow up.

 

lmao. people talk like that amongst friends all the time when it comes to sports. i doubt burlingtonbandit would be offended nor would this crack the top 50 in things that are said on this forum each week. your comment is out of line though

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lmao. people talk like that amongst friends all the time when it comes to sports. i doubt burlingtonbandit would be offended nor would this crack the top 50 in things that are said on this forum each week. your comment is out of line though

 

The short bus crew is out in full fold here.

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You threaten to beat someone unconscious on the street for insulting you and then ask them to grow up because this is a public forum? While you were beating them on the street would that not be a public venue?

 

Fun fact - He wasn't even directly insulting him... :eek:

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Fun fact - He wasn't even directly insulting him... :eek:

 

side effect of steroid use include roid rage and small testicles

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Is that mj? Sounds like something he would say.

 

dude i've been here for ages. i'm not mj lol, i just dont get involved with arguments that often

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What the f*** is wrong with youyou? If you talked to me like that in the street I would beat you unconscious. This is a public forum, grow up.

 

Lol chill out dude

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dude i've been here for ages. i'm not mj lol, i just dont get involved with arguments that often

 

He's talking about Frozennutz, everything going over your head tonight, bro.

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