How much has one start changed your opinion on Aaron Sanchez?

[Stangstag]

Amazing start by Sanchez. He was obviously gassed in the 9th though. Really sucks that he couldn't finish the game and get the win.

[Jimcanuck]

Amazing start by Sanchez. He was obviously gassed in the 9th though. Really sucks that he couldn't finish the game and get the win.

 

I don't think he was gassed. He had to sit for a while in the dugout. That often messes a pitcher up, late in the game.

[Cyborg]

Sanchez now 11th in the league in pitching WAR with 2.1, flanked by Strasburg and Lester.

[THANOS]

The offense really need to get their s*** together. This was just a brutal way to lose..

[Daniel Labude]

If we get Stroman to pitch like Sanchez a little more we could have a great young 1-2 punch going forward!!!!!

[Sorrow]

I'm really pleased with Sanchez. FIP in the high 2s, xFIP at 3, 2.1 fWAR so far, low BB rate, high K rate. This is good.

[THANOS]

If we get Stroman to pitch like Sanchez a little more we could have a great young 1-2 punch going forward!!!!!

 

He had a track record of doing it once. If he can get back to the 4SM/breaking ball guy instead of the 2SM/Spot corners guy than maybe, just maybe, he can get back there.

[RealAccountant]

Is it too early to start a Sanchez vs Syndergaard thread

[Daniel Labude]

He had a track record of doing it once. If he can get back to the 4SM/breaking ball guy instead of the 2SM/Spot corners guy than maybe, just maybe, he can get back there.

 

I'm not positive, but I think Sanchez threw 6 or so 4 seam fastballs last night....might be a sign that they will be adding it back to Stroman?

[THANOS]

I'm not positive, but I think Sanchez threw 6 or so 4 seam fastballs last night....might be a sign that they will be adding it back to Stroman?

 

We can only hope. I'm not sure if the front office looks at SwStr% data (though I'd imagine they do) but look at what Sanchez was able to do with his 4SM and CV last night.

 

 

4SM - 14 with 28.6 Whiff%

CU - 15 with 26.7 Whiff%

[puphood]

Sanchez looks stronger and has been looking better as the season goes on and now the curve ball looks devastating, I think he will continue to trend up........

[John_Havok]

We can only hope. I'm not sure if the front office looks at SwStr% data (though I'd imagine they do) but look at what Sanchez was able to do with his 4SM and CV last night.

 

 

4SM - 14 with 28.6 Whiff%

CU - 15 with 26.7 Whiff%

 

If he could just bump that change usage into double digits and be a legit average pitch even, then he'd be really on the cusp of being an ace.

 

I'll take a solid 2/3 any day of the week though.

[Governator]

Lowest xFIP in the AL. No one here could ever have predicted that.

[Laika]

This is pretty bananas at this point. The reasonable opinion on Sanchez in the offseason was probably something like:

 

If nothing changes he can't start. If there is a minor skill change then maybe he is a backend guy. He would need a major skill change to be anything more than a #4 SP.

And now we are talking about a guy who is third in the AL in fWAR - basically in the Cy Young race.

[admin]

Some of us had faith in him!

[Laika]

Some of us had faith in him!

 

yeah but some of you were (are) idiots

[admin]

Au contraire!

[THANOS]

Lowest xFIP in the AL. No one here could ever have predicted that.

 

Absolutely insane, especially since he has a low HR/9 as it is.

 

This is pretty bananas at this point. The reasonable opinion on Sanchez in the offseason was probably something like:

 

If nothing changes he can't start. If there is a minor skill change then maybe he is a backend guy. He would need a major skill change to be anything more than a #4 SP.

And now we are talking about a guy who is third in the AL in fWAR - basically in the Cy Young race.

 

It's basically the Carlos Carrasco momentous metamorphosis from 2009-2013 into the beast of 2014-Present.

[bones10]

Exciting times for Sanchez ahead. I hope this offense can figure it out - even if its just a wild card spot we end up getting Sanchez could very well steal the game if he keeps it up.

[GD]

He had a track record of doing it once. If he can get back to the 4SM/breaking ball guy instead of the 2SM/Spot corners guy than maybe, just maybe, he can get back there.

 

I swear 95% of your posts involve "less 2 seam" or "Carlos Carrasco"

[Grant77]

This is pretty bananas at this point. The reasonable opinion on Sanchez in the offseason was probably something like:

 

If nothing changes he can't start. If there is a minor skill change then maybe he is a backend guy. He would need a major skill change to be anything more than a #4 SP.

And now we are talking about a guy who is third in the AL in fWAR - basically in the Cy Young race.

 

 

My statistically supported argument was that he had already shown the skills of a back end starter and that the ground balls would play well with the best infield D in the league. Guys in the past had succeeded with 60% ground balls and rather crappy K/Bb numbers. People were so hung up on a tiny FIP sample that they weren't being logical at all.

 

I thought he had a decent shot to improve his command and be a nice innings eater due to his age, but this performance is far more than I expected. I'm very very impressed.

[Atothe]

I swear 95% of your posts involve "less 2 seam" or "Carlos Carrasco"

 

Isn't that the recipe for success?

[Jimcanuck]

Lowest xFIP in the AL. No one here could ever have predicted that.

 

I predicted 3+ WAR, which I thought was quite bold. He's going to exceed that easily at this rate.

 

Crazy thing is he still has a lot of room to improve / upside.

[THANOS]

I swear 95% of your posts involve "less 2 seam" or "Carlos Carrasco"

 

Both are good things, no?

[Jimcanuck]

This is pretty bananas at this point. The reasonable opinion on Sanchez in the offseason was probably something like:

 

If nothing changes he can't start. If there is a minor skill change then maybe he is a backend guy. He would need a major skill change to be anything more than a #4 SP.

And now we are talking about a guy who is third in the AL in fWAR - basically in the Cy Young race.

 

That opinion is only true if you rely on misleading MiLB stats and disregard the real improvements he was making through his 2015 starts.

[THANOS]

I predicted 3+ WAR, which I thought was quite bold. He's going to exceed that easily at this rate.

 

Crazy thing is he still has a lot of room to improve / upside.

 

He could hit 5 WAR which is just silly to think about.

[Maahfaace]

He could hit 5 WAR which is just silly to think about.

 

Hopefully he stays strong and sticks in the rotation the whole season

[glory]

Never thought at any point in 2016 we'd be looking at Sanchez as being way better than Stroman, but here we are.

[burlingtonbandit]

Never thought at any point in 2016 we'd be looking at Sanchez as being way better than Stroman, but here we are.

 

Not even that but he's been one of the best pitchers in the AL.

[RealAccountant]

Imagine if AA kept the right one all along

 

What a shocker that would be