Blue Jays sign J.A. Happ 3-years $36M

[Governator]

I guess I can live with it. Kind of disappointing but I have nothing against Happ and he's improved since moving on. I hope we get the expected value of 2 fwar/season from him, though I have doubts.

[dineke]

No way AA would sign any overpriced FA either.

 

AA would rather trade the farm for the starter anyway.

[CJ-Freeway]

Not having David price isn't going to kill this team. They may not win as many games but they will be in the hunt.

 

I know. But not having a solid #2 replacing Price might be the difference between making the Wild Card game and not making it.

[Atothe]

So someone put a gun to rogers board of advisers and demand a 180 million dollar payroll. No being reasonable

[jaysfan2014]

Price isn't going to hold up long-term.. as a power pitcher, he's going to decline soon.. whoever gives him a multi-year dealer is going to have serious buyer's remorse between next year to two years down the road. See Verlander--we all know how that turned out.

[jaysfan2014]

So someone put a gun to rogers board of advisers and demand a 180 million dollar payroll. No being reasonable

 

That would take us over the tax--benefits are about $11-12M. We can't do that.

[fireballW]

Wat?

Exactly

[BTS]

It feels like the fans would be happier if they'd traded Edwin for Strasburg or something.

[dineke]

I know. But not having a solid #2 replacing Price might be the difference between making the Wild Card game and not making it.

 

And Price could be the difference between being decent in 2020 or a dumpster fire.

[thatoneguy]

To go along with what may be the worst rotation 1-5 in all of baseball.

 

You don't follow much baseball, do you?

[GreekFatAss]

Alright, here is the numbers of the 2015 Blue Jays starters including the Price acquisition at the deadline.

 

http://i67.tinypic.com/k0k4tx.jpg

 

With the additions of Chavez and Happ the projections for the 2016 are as follows.

 

http://i63.tinypic.com/23jfghi.jpg

[reedjohnsonfan]

It feels like the fans would be happier if they'd traded Edwin for Strasburg or something.

 

Stupid f***ing trade

[RealAccountant]

How accurate are steamer projections

[TheHurl]

welcome back

 

I've been so careful not to write that too. I'm still torn...I love those Rays but I'd also love for some sustained success in Toronto under a GM that I don't consider to be a complete *******.

[Governator]

I know. But not having a solid #2 replacing Price might be the difference between making the Wild Card game and not making it.

 

Stroman is basically Price's replacement considering he made like 4 starts... Look, we have Chavez over Hutch, Happ over Sanchez and Estrada over Buehrle to start the season. This is a better rotation than whatever mashup last April was.

[reedjohnsonfan]

How accurate are steamer projections

 

lol not the best. They give a very nice picture and are useful but anyone with half a brain can adjust them if they put some effort in.

[TheHurl]

No you're right, on April 1st 2015, we had a weak rotation too. Which continued to be weak until Price showed up halfway through the season.

 

So you believe that pitchers make other pitchers better?

[Trouba95]

I know. But not having a solid #2 replacing Price might be the difference between making the Wild Card game and not making it.

 

Again, it's November 27! Hold your f***ing horses.

[TheHurl]

I know. But not having a solid #2 replacing Price might be the difference between making the Wild Card game and not making it.

 

so they can't add another pitcher at the deadline?

[Brownie19]

To go along with what may be the worst rotation 1-5 in all of baseball.

 

This is possible the worst post I've read since joining this board...

[King]

My IQ has lowered significantly after reading this thread.

[glory]

To go along with what may be the worst rotation 1-5 in all of baseball.

 

Great post or greatest post?

[BTS]

Stupid f***ing trade

 

Yes it would be

[TheHurl]

My IQ has lowered significantly after reading this thread.

 

On a positive note, someday you'll learn that sex will do exactly the same thing. We'll come back to this thread in 15 years

[King]

lol

[Atothe]

Hurl dropped a gem. Let's close this thread up.

[baubau]

I guess Osuna is officially a reliever. Don't like that

 

Also means Sanchez is a reliever. Love that! Hope he is traded..

[rydermike]

What surprises me about the signing is that Happ came back. I always thought Happ was not pleased with being sent to AAA back at the beginning of 2014 and had a bit of resentment, that was partially why they were willing to trade him, a starter, for Saunders. Guess that was all in my head. He must have really enjoyed it here, since he was willing to come back, even after being dealt less than a year ago.

 

I'm content with Stroman-Estrada-Dickey-Happ-Chavez (6 Hutchinson). Not ecstatic, not hugely disappointed.

 

So now just to fill the bullpen. Osuna-Cecil-Sanchez-Loup-________-________-__________ (Depth: Shultz,Tepara,Delabar). Do we have enough left in the budget for Lowe to come back? Maybe a Rule 5 pickup or two

[Grant77]

What surprises me about the signing is that Happ came back. I always thought Happ was not pleased with being sent to AAA back at the beginning of 2014 and had a bit of resentment, that was partially why they were willing to trade him, a starter, for Saunders. Guess that was all in my head. He must have really enjoyed it here, since he was willing to come back, even after being dealt less than a year ago.

 

I'm content with Stroman-Estrada-Dickey-Happ-Chavez (6 Hutchinson). Not ecstatic, not hugely disappointed.

 

So now just to fill the bullpen. Osuna-Cecil-Sanchez-Loup-________-________-__________ (Depth: Shultz,Tepara,Delabar). Do we have enough left in the budget for Lowe to come back?

 

[glory]

The Jays won 93 games in 2015 when they had 143 starts made by Dickey, Buehrle, Estrada, Sanchez, Hutchison, Norris, Doubront, Copeland, Redmond, and Boyd.

 

Need 5 aces to win, guyz.