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AMERICAN LEAGUE

Catcher: Brian McCann, Yankees (sixthSilver Slugger)

First base: Miguel Cabrera, Tigers (sixth)

Second base: Altuve, Astros (second)

Third base: Donaldson, Blue Jays (first)

Shortstop: Xander Bogaerts, Red Sox (first)

Outfielders: Mike Trout, Angels (fourth); Nelson Cruz, Mariners (first); J.D. Martinez, Tigers (first)

Designated hitter: Kendrys Morales, Royals (first)

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

Catcher: Buster Posey, Giants (third)

First base: Goldschmidt, D-backs (second)

Second base: Dee Gordon, Marlins (first)

Third base: Arenado, Rockies (first)

Shortstop: Crawford, Giants (first)

Outfielders: Bryce Harper, Nationals (first); McCutchen, Pirates (fourth); Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies (second)

Pitcher: Madison Bumgarner, Giants (second)

 

Honestly, how did Encarnacion not win for DH? Clearly had a way better season than Morales...

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AMERICAN LEAGUE

Catcher: Brian McCann, Yankees (sixthSilver Slugger)

First base: Miguel Cabrera, Tigers (sixth)

Second base: Altuve, Astros (second)

Third base: Donaldson, Blue Jays (first)

Shortstop: Xander Bogaerts, Red Sox (first)

Outfielders: Mike Trout, Angels (fourth); Nelson Cruz, Mariners (first); J.D. Martinez, Tigers (first)

Designated hitter: Kendrys Morales, Royals (first)

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

Catcher: Buster Posey, Giants (third)

First base: Goldschmidt, D-backs (second)

Second base: Dee Gordon, Marlins (first)

Third base: Arenado, Rockies (first)

Shortstop: Crawford, Giants (first)

Outfielders: Bryce Harper, Nationals (first); McCutchen, Pirates (fourth); Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies (second)

Pitcher: Madison Bumgarner, Giants (second)

 

Honestly, how did Encarnacion not win for DH? Clearly had a way better season than Morales...

 

This came up in Around Baseball and your guess is as good a mine. EE had better numbers, saber or traditional. You would think offensive performance would be easier to measure and grade and that they wouldn't f*** these up like they do the gold gloves.

Edited by KingKat
Community Moderator
Posted

Edwin wins

OBP, SLG, wOBA, wRC+, HR, R, RBI, SB

Morales wins

AVG

 

This is one of the most egregious votes in recent memory. Not justifiable via traditional or saber stats.

Community Moderator
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I don't see any way they can justify giving this to Morales over EE, unless EE qualified as a 1st baseman, and not as a DH.

 

Are these voted on after the playoffs? I'd love to hear someone try to justify Morales over Edwin. I can't think of anything that would be even remotely defensible.

Posted
Edwin wins

OBP, SLG, wOBA, wRC+, HR, R, RBI, SB

Morales wins

AVG

 

This is one of the most egregious votes in recent memory. Not justifiable via traditional or saber stats.

 

All of these idiots wet for KC.

Posted
The collective circle jerk over the Royals is really baffling. Is it not enough to celebrate their team accomplishments without overstating the individual guys' contributions? I swear these writers have watched too many underdog sports movies.
Posted
Are these voted on after the playoffs? I'd love to hear someone try to justify Morales over Edwin. I can't think of anything that would be even remotely defensible.

 

I've seen a lot of people saying Edwin got robbed, but I'd also like to point out that Bautista's numbers are better across the board than J.D. Martinez, who he topped in wOBA, HR, R, and RBI. It appears that avrige is alive and well among the voters.

Community Moderator
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Are these voted on after the playoffs? I'd love to hear someone try to justify Morales over Edwin. I can't think of anything that would be even remotely defensible.

 

Bautista vs Martinez stacks up the same way. Martinez basically only beat Bautista in AVG.

Community Moderator
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"These voters consider several offensive categories in selecting the winners, including batting average, slugging percentage, and on-base percentage, in addition to "coaches' and managers' general impressions of a player's overall offensive value."
Community Moderator
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I've seen a lot of people saying Edwin got robbed, but I'd also like to point out that Bautista's numbers are better across the board than J.D. Martinez, who he topped in wOBA, HR, R, and RBI. It appears that avrige is alive and well among the voters.

 

If you squint really hard to can kind of see a semi-coherent defense of that one at least. Plus, a lot of the voters probably just don't like Jose.

Posted
"These voters consider several offensive categories in selecting the winners, including batting average, slugging percentage, and on-base percentage, in addition to "coaches' and managers' general impressions of a player's overall offensive value."

 

Makes sense, since a single is as good as a home run and all.

Posted
If you squint really hard to can kind of see a semi-coherent defense of that one at least. Plus, a lot of the voters probably just don't like Jose.

 

I'm squinting and not seeing it. At best you could make an argument that they're about equal... but they're not.

Posted
Some voters obviously considering Edwin a first baseman, splitting his vote. It doesn't really matter. Nobody who matters actually believes Morales is or was the better hitter.

 

Despite not playing a full season, Miguel Cabrera still managed to best Davis and Edwin at RE24. He's the best offensive first baseman in the league and played like it in 2015.

 

Wanna trade for him in DDL?

Posted
Edwin wins

OBP, SLG, wOBA, wRC+, HR, R, RBI, SB

Morales wins

AVG, WORLD f***ING SERIES!

 

This is one of the most egregious votes in recent memory. Not justifiable via traditional or saber stats.

 

Fixed that for ya bro

Posted
Edwin wins

OBP, SLG, wOBA, wRC+, HR, R, RBI, SB

Morales wins

AVG

 

This is one of the most egregious votes in recent memory. Not justifiable via traditional or saber stats.

 

unless EE played too many games at 1B during the joeybats shoulder flip out time

Posted

top 6 in AL for wRC+ were Trout, Cabrerra, Cruz, Donaldson, EE then joey bats

 

if they classified Cruz at RF then EE was a DH and he got screwed big time by stats. He killed Morales on everthing. JB also got screwed, his numbers were far more impressive than Martinez (except BA, but JB was considerably better OBP)

 

games played by postion

 

Nelson Cruz - 80 RF, 72 DH 158wRC+

 

EE - 59 1B, 87 DH 150WRC+

 

morales - 9 1B, 140 DH 131 wRC+

 

Martinez 148 RF 137 wRC+

 

Joey Bats 118 RF, 35DH 147 wRC+

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