Alex Anthopoulos press conference

[jaysblue]

Which starter do you think the Jays could sign on a 1 year deal worth $12 million this offseason? Someone comparable to Dickey (in terms of performance) likely will require a multiyear deal. The only guys I could think of are some of the vets out there like Colon or Lackey. Colon probably would sign a 1 year deal with an option. I think Lackey gets a 3 year deal from someone worth $40M.

[Governator]

Goins / Travis / Tulo need to stay together, we aren't going to find a cheaper but better option at second base than Travis/Goins. That is about as good of mid infield trio that we could ask for and between nagging injuries and regular rests Goins will get plenty of play time and we won't lose much of a step compared to having to play Kawasaki for example.

 

As for Dickey, they pretty much have to take his option. With so many holes in the rotation, $12MM is pretty fair market value for getting 200 innings and a 2 WAR back end starter for this team. I think the most difficult aspect with Dickey, isn't about knowing what you're going to get start to start, but just having that personal catcher available for him. I never believed Estrada needed Navarro, it was purely to give Martin his day off. (Estrada basically throws 2 pitches). I know I'm alone here but I wouldn't be against having Thole as the back up catcher while Martin focuses more on our young pitchers. That's kind of why we got him, to work with our younger pitchers and bring the best out of them like he's done throughout his career.

[art_vandelay275]

What said Grant about Dickey ERA next year?

 

his steamer numbers

 

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[BigCecil]

first brunt now zaun ... are these guys really serious that shapiro may let AA walk? i would think it's a done deal...

 

Brunt is a careful and considered journalist. I've heard him twice now talk like he knows something we don't regarding AA's future with the Jays. He is not the type to just swim against the current unless he thinks there is a material reason for it. He inferred it may still happen but he has a view that there is a good chance it wont.

[BTS]

WAR:

2013 - 1.7

2014 - 1.7

2015 - 2.1

 

We have to pick up that option for the 200 IP even though we all hate the KB.

 

And that undervalues him. His defense and pitch mix maxes him a legit FIP-beater, and there's also the Dickey effect.

[Governator]

And that undervalues him. His defense and pitch mix maxes him a legit FIP-beater, and there's also the Dickey effect.

 

There is also the personal catcher effect.

 

That aside, his results will almost always beat out his predictions. I think its because his low BABIP is more sustainable than predictions presume. Pretty sure that throws everything out of whack.

[Slugger]

I don't understand how you can lump Goins in with the Penninton/Barnes of the world.

 

The guy is clearly an every day player. Having said that, he shouldn't start over Travis.

[BTS]

There is also the personal catcher effect.

 

That aside, his results will almost always beat out his predictions. I think its because his low BABIP is more sustainable than predictions presume. Pretty sure that throws everything out of whack.

 

Yeah. The knuckleball is a known FIP beater, and there's an effect of Dickey being a great defender. RA-9 WAR is better for him.

[Governator]

I don't understand how you can lump Goins in with the Penninton/Barnes of the world.

 

The guy is clearly an every day player. Having said that, he shouldn't start over Travis.

 

 

He's an every day player for some teams while a great depth piece for competitive teams who have better mid infield options.

[Slugger]

He's an every day player for some teams while a great depth piece for competitive teams who have better mid infield options.

 

No issue with this comment.

[dineke]

I don't understand how you can lump Goins in with the Penninton/Barnes of the world.

 

The guy is clearly an every day player. Having said that, he shouldn't start over Travis.

 

Goins is a back-up, Pennington had a higher fWAR in 200 at bats last year.

[AdamGreenwood]

I don't understand how you can lump Goins in with the Penninton/Barnes of the world.

 

The guy is clearly an every day player. Having said that, he shouldn't start over Travis.

 

So far, Ryan Goins career numbers are slightly higher than Johnny Mac's, but he's young so they could improve.

But, I think everyone recognizes that Tulo has shorstop and Travis has second to start the year, which leaves Goins as a backup.

 

Goins doesn't really add anything as a bench player, beyond being able to fill in, in the case of injury, and maybe late game defensive replacement for Travis.

So, if they can get something decent for Travis great. If not, he's a decent backup, and winning teams need depth, even if it seems like we're wasting talent.

[Slugger]

How many current major league starting middle infielders is he better than?

 

This is a really great question. I can look into this later in the day when I'm not in bed looking at my phone with 1 eye open.

[BigCecil]

I don't understand how you can lump Goins in with the Penninton/Barnes of the world.

 

The guy is clearly an every day player. Having said that, he shouldn't start over Travis.

 

...he is still a maybe. Until he proves his 84 wRC+ is real he wont be. Last season his wRC+ was 28....the year before 63.

 

He was a 1.5 WAR with 428 PAs this year. Penny was 1.6 in 2014.

 

Goins had encouraging signs with his BB rate 2015. The glove gets him in the everyday player discussion but he hasn't proven he can hit enough.

Edited October 26, 2015 by BigCecil

[Slugger]

and maybe late game defensive replacement for Travis.

 

Well, I'm not so sure Travis needs to be replaced defensively late in a game. I could be wrong, I haven't looked at the numbers in awhile.

[Governator]

Well, I'm not so sure Travis needs to be replaced defensively late in a game. I could be wrong, I haven't looked at the numbers in awhile.

 

 

Travis shouldn't need a late inning defensive sub, but knowing that our SS & 2B are kind of... sort of... maybe made of glass he's a pretty damn good $500K back up who will get plenty of game time from rest days alone.

[Slugger]

Travis shouldn't need a late inning defensive sub, but knowing that our SS & 2B are kind of... sort of... maybe made of glass he's a pretty damn good $500K back up who will get plenty of game time from rest days alone.

 

I have no problem with that as long as it doesn't become an issue, but knowing Ryan it won't.

Edited October 26, 2015 by Slugger

[art_vandelay275]

Brunt is a careful and considered journalist. I've heard him twice now talk like he knows something we don't regarding AA's future with the Jays. He is not the type to just swim against the current unless he thinks there is a material reason for it. He inferred it may still happen but he has a view that there is a good chance it wont.

 

slightly off topic here but what do you think of Lott's opinion; at a minimum i love the pics he takes and he seems like a genuine fan

 

living in the US, it's harder to get a day-to-day perspective as to what they say on talk shows, etc other than wha'ts available online....

[Virgil_Hiltz]

He's not going to disrespect goins in his press conference.

 

Not sure if either have any real claim to the starting job.

As much as I like Travis and his productive 5 week MLB career it's still just 5 weeks at the start of the season.

[Terminator]

slightly off topic here but what do you think of Lott's opinion; at a minimum i love the pics he takes and he seems like a genuine fan

 

living in the US, it's harder to get a day-to-day perspective as to what they say on talk shows, etc other than wha'ts available online....

 

What city?

[art_vandelay275]

What city?

 

Los Angeles - Around Pasadena area

[Terminator]

Los Angeles - Around Pasadena area

 

Nice I live in Denver. Pasadena is a nice place, my sister lives in SoCal.

[art_vandelay275]

Nice I live in Denver. Pasadena is a nice place, my sister lives in SoCal.

 

still can't beat the weather but with the budget, the drought, and the traffic which i guess now every major city has, it's not as nice of a place as it used to be...

 

denver, seattle, portland (pacific NW), there's where a lot of SoCal are moving to... just a warning

 

are you also transplanted from TO?

[Frenchsoup]

Not sure if either have any real claim to the starting job.

As much as I like Travis and his productive 5 week MLB career it's still just 5 weeks at the start of the season.

 

I think Travis has quite the claim.

[jaysblue]

Nice I live in Denver. Pasadena is a nice place, my sister lives in SoCal.

 

If I ever hit up a Rockies game, I'll give you a shout. Did a west coast trip in California this past August and hit up all the ballparks. Next trip I'd like to do in the next couple of years would be Colorado, Arizona, and the Northwest like Oregon and Seattle.

[art_vandelay275]

If I ever hit up a Rockies game, I'll give you a shout. Did a west coast trip in California this past August and hit up all the ballparks. Next trip I'd like to do in the next couple of years would be Colorado, Arizona, and the Northwest like Oregon and Seattle.

 

were you at the Big A when the Jays were in town??

[Terminator]

still can't beat the weather but with the budget, the drought, and the traffic which i guess now every major city has, it's not as nice of a place as it used to be...

 

denver, seattle, portland (pacific NW), there's where a lot of SoCal are moving to... just a warning

 

are you also transplanted from TO?

 

No my mom grew up in TO but I grew up in the States- lived mostly in the Rocky Mountains and the West Coast. I get back to TO once or twice a year although I used to spend most of the summers there as a kid.

[Terminator]

If I ever hit up a Rockies game, I'll give you a shout. Did a west coast trip in California this past August and hit up all the ballparks. Next trip I'd like to do in the next couple of years would be Colorado, Arizona, and the Northwest like Oregon and Seattle.

 

Yeah hit me up! Jays are coming to town in 2016. Should be a fun series with it being Tulo's return.

[jaysblue]

were you at the Big A when the Jays were in town??

 

Yeah for the Saturday night game.

[jaysblue]

Yeah hit me up! Jays are coming to town in 2016. Should be a fun series with it being Tulo's return.

 

Oh wow, that would be awesome to see the Jays at Coors Field. Depending on when they are in town and if I could align it with a D'Backs game and Mariners game as well. Also, need the Canadian dollar to improve because its awful to travel now down to the States.