Alex Anthopoulos press conference

[Frenchsoup]

With an injury prone Tulo and Travis coming off surgery I think it'd be best to keep Goins unless someone makes an offer which we couldn't refuse.

 

You can find a Barney/Pennington type who can do the job just as well.

[Angrioter]

[AdamGreenwood]

Zaun is citing Price's 0-7 post-season starting record, as a reason not to sign him.

[Angrioter]

Zaun is citing Price's 0-7 post-season starting record, as a reason not to sign him.

 

Zaun is right. Trade Donaldson for Freese and 2 RP

[Angrioter]

Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said Monday that he is hoping to bring back Dioner Navarro.

[Jonn]

Goins is valuable as the backup infielder. If healthy Travis is the starter. Zero debate. Wilner is the only one who seems to think we might prefer Goins for reasoning behind comprehension.

[BigCecil]

Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said Monday that he is hoping to bring back Dioner Navarro.

 

all wanted back....just one big happy expensive family.

[Frenchsoup]

I bet they QO Dickey and try and trade him.

[Jonn]

Navarro is gone. No way hes back. He could get more playing time on serval teams.

[Frenchsoup]

Sorry mean't pickup his option.

[ProfessionalAtBat]

WHat's with the french questions? This is not the montreal blue jays.

 

Deal with it

[art_vandelay275]

I bet they QO Dickey and try and trade him.

 

it's a club option so not the $15M more like $10M

 

and yeah... i'm hoping they pick up the option and try to see if there's a taker for him given his friendly terms

[BTS]

I bet they QO Dickey and try and trade him.

 

They have a 12M team option.

[Angrioter]

all wanted back....just one big happy expensive family.

 

Trade for the Not friendly guy Valencia

http://33.media.tumblr.com/1a3509c6a63ebd49fbbcbd57546324f7/tumblr_nq4a0piBki1r37slco1_500.gif

[fatcowxlive]

I bet they QO Dickey and try and trade him.

 

QO Dickey? Who would pay $14M for him? He'd take it in a heart beat. Pick up the option and trade him if anything, but we won't get much for him i dont think

[Terminator]

Why would we trade Dickey? We are desperate for starting pitching, trading what little we have away doesn't make much sense.

[art_vandelay275]

Why would we trade Dickey? We are desperate for starting pitching, trading what little we have away doesn't make much sense.

 

because u never know what you're going to get with a knuckleball.... other than he'll give you 200+ innings which i tired of hearing...

[art_vandelay275]

first brunt now zaun ... are these guys really serious that shapiro may let AA walk? i would think it's a done deal...

[Angrioter]

because u never know what you're going to get with a knuckleball.... other than he'll give you 200+ innings which i tired of hearing...

 

Dickey > Aaron Sanchez.

 

Stroman is good, but Hutchison-Sanchez-Osuna are bigs question marks

[Terminator]

because u never know what you're going to get with a knuckleball.... other than he'll give you 200+ innings which i tired of hearing...

 

Actually I'm pretty sure you know exactly what you are getting with Dickey. He's been a carbon copy for 3 years in a row. He's fine as a #4 or 5 SP and should be brought back. For a team that desperately needs starting pitching it's a no brainer IMO.

[BTS]

because u never know what you're going to get with a knuckleball.... other than he'll give you 200+ innings which i tired of hearing...

 

But for three years here it's been 200+ useful innings, plus the Dickey effect. I don't think you replace his production for a safer commitment than 1/12.

[Frenchsoup]

Why would we trade Dickey? We are desperate for starting pitching, trading what little we have away doesn't make much sense.

 

I am guessing, but i believe they're worried about the wear and tear on Martin. Also 12 million isn't GREAT value for your buck.

[art_vandelay275]

Actually I'm pretty sure you know exactly what you are getting with Dickey. He's been a carbon copy for 3 years in a row. He's fine as a #4 or 5 SP and should be brought back. For a team that desperately needs starting pitching it's a no brainer IMO.

 

i agree that @12M for a #4/5, it's a no brainer; but the fact with the Dickster is that when he's bad, you are potentially out of it early; he doesn't give you a chance unless you can mash out 7+ runs or something

 

i'll put it this way - from a dollar and cents, we should bring him back; as a fan, i don't want him

[Jonn]

Why would we trade Dickey? We are desperate for starting pitching, trading what little we have away doesn't make much sense.

 

You trade him if you feel you can do better. Lets not forget he was absolute garbage in the first half. All 3 of his seasons in Toronto the same thing happend. If hes our 4th or 5th starter you can live with that but he can't be anything more than that. His strikeout numbers have declined dramatically. Hes not getting swings and misses and tons of balls are being put in play. If his knuckleball is not effective it results in walks and deep fly balls. Not a recipe for success especially in our ballpark. If you can move him for value in which you feel is fair you do it.

 

For a guy whose considered predictable with "200 innings pitched" every year. I consider him unpredictable just because he has a declining unpredictable pitch thats getting hit more and hit harder. It would not shock me to see his numbers completely blowup next year and be consistently awful.

 

I would move if I could. I probably pick up the option though. In terms of value its there.

[Angrioter]

But for three years here it's been 200+ useful innings, plus the Dickey effect. I don't think you replace his production for a safer commitment than 1/12.

 

What said Grant about Dickey ERA next year?

[Terminator]

You trade him if you feel you can do better.

 

I am up for trading anyone on the roster if we can do better.

 

But I see everyone wanting to deal Dickey and Goins, etc. when I don't think we'd get much and we could use both players as is.

 

So by all means wheel and deal for the best you can I just don't see a scenario where a team that needs multiple starting pitchers is better off by trading one of the few starting pitchers it already has.

[dineke]

i agree that @12M for a #4/5, it's a no brainer; but the fact with the Dickster is that when he's bad, you are potentially out of it early; he doesn't give you a chance unless you can mash out 7+ runs or something

 

i'll put it this way - from a dollar and cents, we should bring him back; as a fan, i don't want him

 

He doesn't blow up anymore than a traditional pitcher.

[art_vandelay275]

declining unpredictable pitch

 

that's actually a good way to put it. even just looking at his 2 seasons before his CY and completely throwing out '12, he was much more of a GB, low BB, avg K kind of a pitcher. In the years he's been here, he now seems to be FB, high BB - not a good combination especially if your home park is RC

[intentional wok]

AA isn't going to give a single answer that alienates anyone. Not after a very emotional and successful season like this one, which only ended three days ago.

 

He wants everyone back, as per smart PR. This is all just a formality.

[BigCecil]

that's actually a good way to put it. even just looking at his 2 seasons before his CY and completely throwing out '12, he was much more of a GB, low BB, avg K kind of a pitcher. In the years he's been here, he now seems to be FB, high BB - not a good combination especially if your home park is RC

 

WAR:

2013 - 1.7

2014 - 1.7

2015 - 2.1

 

We have to pick up that option for the 200 IP even though we all hate the KB.