Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Krylian]

Van Eyk just gave up 6 earned in the 2nd. He's got 4 K's though lol

 

He and SWR must eat the same breakfast cereal

[Eat My Shatkins]

Orelvis collected another double, he finished 4 for 5 with a HR, two 2B and two walks.

 

OPS up to .906 now.

[InsideThePark]

Orlevis 4-5

 

2 2B, HR, 2BB.

 

Time to move him up to High A.

 

His OPS has gone up 42 points tonight alone. He's been on fire lately, I think he's certainly ready for a promotion.

[Grant77]

It's true, it's true July 30th is our long elated track back home! Reported on Tim and Sid, lol. YEEEEEEEES!!!!!

 

First home game with the debut of Kris Bryant and Max Scherzer would be cool

[Spanky__99]

It's true, it's true July 30th is our long elated track back home! Reported on Tim and Sid, lol. YEEEEEEEES!!!!!

 

bump

[Sammy225]

First home game with the debut of Kris Bryant and Max Scherzer would be cool

 

I think you mean kimbrel

[BlueRocky]

Orelvis collected another double, he finished 4 for 5 with a HR, two 2B and two walks.

 

OPS up to .906 now.

 

Stud

[Benito]

Hopefully Orelvis has a Moreno like breakout next year, and vaults into top 25 prospect range. He's performed better than Moreno at same age. So exciting to see the talent pipeline continue to flow and produce.

[TwistedLogic]

Did anyone share the most recent BA list yet?

 

Is this even the official mid-season update or is it just a big update I'm assuming because of the draft?

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/2021-top-100-prospects/

[InvincibleTiger]

Hopefully Orelvis has a Moreno like breakout next year, and vaults into top 25 prospect range. He's performed better than Moreno at same age. So exciting to see the talent pipeline continue to flow and produce.

 

Shatkins scouting dept >>>

[max silver]

Hopefully Orelvis has a Moreno like breakout next year, and vaults into top 25 prospect range. He's performed better than Moreno at same age. So exciting to see the talent pipeline continue to flow and produce.

 

With how Orelvis is performing recently he might be experiencing that kind of breakout right now. His May OPS was .772, June was .802, and in July he's rocketed up to 1.354.

[THANOS]

Did anyone share the most recent BA list yet?

 

Is this even the official mid-season update or is it just a big update I'm assuming because of the draft?

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/2021-top-100-prospects/

 

Thanks TL! Do you happen to have a membership? If not, maybe someone who does can post the list? I'm definitely interested!

 

OT, but Fyter Fest Pt 1 was incredible!

[THANOS]

With how Orelvis is performing recently he might be experiencing that kind of breakout right now. His May OPS was .772, June was .802, and in July he's rocketed up to 1.354.

 

Happen to have the K rate & BB rate breakdown by month? Be cool to see if some of this is an approach adjustment, rather than hot streak.

[InvincibleTiger]

My top 10:

 

Moreno

Martin

Pearson

Martinez

Manoah

SWR

Kirk

Groshans

Hogland

Lopez

[max silver]

Happen to have the K rate & BB rate breakdown by month? Be cool to see if some of this is an approach adjustment, rather than hot streak.

 

If Milb.com had plate appearances listed in their monthly splits listed it would be very easy to calculate, but unfortunately it looks like only at bats are listed. The values I've calculated should still be close though, for plate appearances I have added at bats to walks. This will miss things like sacrifice flies, but I don't think that will affect the final results too much.

 

May BB% 9.9 K% 23.8

June BB% 10.1 K% 29.6

July BB% 9.6 K% 32.7

[Orgfiller]

If Milb.com had plate appearances listed in their monthly splits listed it would be very easy to calculate, but unfortunately it looks like only at bats are listed. The values I've calculated should still be close though, for plate appearances I have added at bats to walks. This will miss things like sacrifice flies, but I don't think that will affect the final results too much.

 

May BB% 9.9 K% 23.8

June BB% 10.1 K% 29.6

July BB% 9.6 K% 32.7

 

You can just to fangraphs, game logs and filter the dates by month.

 

May:

 

June:

 

July:

[THANOS]

My top 10:

 

Moreno

Martin

Pearson

Martinez

Manoah

SWR

Kirk

Groshans

Hogland

Lopez

 

Interesting. I feel like a lot of fans have soured on Groshans a bit while not doing the same with Martin.

 

If you look at their AA seasons, they are very similar while Groshans is about 4-5 months younger, and farther removed from professional ABs, with his injury costing him most of 2019.

 

Martin, age 22, 122 wRC+, 13.1 BB%, 23.4 K%

Groshans, age 21, 114 wRC+, 10.9 BB%, 21.3 K%

 

With that in mind, my top 10 is probably like this:

 

1. Moreno

2. Martin (mostly because of pedigree and draft position)

3. Manoah

4. Groshans

5. Pearson

6. Martinez (K% not great but we'll see)

7. SWR (K/9 elite but BB/9 very bad)

8. Kirk

9. Hogland

10. Lopez

[max silver]

You can just to fangraphs, game logs and filter the dates by month.

 

May:

 

June:

 

July:

 

Thanks a bunch, I didn't realize it was possible to sort this way for minor league players.

[THANOS]

If Milb.com had plate appearances listed in their monthly splits listed it would be very easy to calculate, but unfortunately it looks like only at bats are listed. The values I've calculated should still be close though, for plate appearances I have added at bats to walks. This will miss things like sacrifice flies, but I don't think that will affect the final results too much.

 

May BB% 9.9 K% 23.8

June BB% 10.1 K% 29.6

July BB% 9.6 K% 32.7

 

You can just to fangraphs, game logs and filter the dates by month.

 

May:

 

June:

 

July:

 

Thanks, was on my phone, so couldn't sort and cut as easy.

 

So based on this, approach seems to be the same the past 2 months and this looks to be a hot streak.

 

I worry that a promotion to A+ would lead to splits like below:

 

8-9 BB% 35-40 K%

 

Hope I'm wrong, but that's a possibility if you look at how his peripherals lined up in Rookie ball compared to Dunedin.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Nice to see Orelvis heating up.

 

Next up hopefully we see Groshans and Martin start to light up AA in the same way.

 

Seems like they are just getting by for now, which is fine, but it'd be nice to see them start tearing it up.

[Daniel Labude]

With how Orelvis is performing recently he might be experiencing that kind of breakout right now. His May OPS was .772, June was .802, and in July he's rocketed up to 1.354.

 

With young prospects need to allow time to get back up to speed. Went basically a year and a half with no true games (at 18). May was getting back to game speed, June was getting his timing down, and July is lock and load let it rip imo

[Benito]

Interesting. I feel like a lot of fans have soured on Groshans a bit while not doing the same with Martin.

 

If you look at their AA seasons, they are very similar while Groshans is about 4-5 months younger, and farther removed from professional ABs, with his injury costing him most of 2019.

 

Martin, age 22, 122 wRC+, 13.1 BB%, 23.4 K%

Groshans, age 21, 114 wRC+, 10.9 BB%, 21.3 K%

 

With that in mind, my top 10 is probably like this:

 

1. Moreno

2. Martin (mostly because of pedigree and draft position)

3. Manoah

4. Groshans

5. Pearson

6. Martinez (K% not great but we'll see)

7. SWR (K/9 elite but BB/9 very bad)

8. Kirk

9. Hogland

10. Lopez

 

I haven't soured on Groshans. I think something to consider with Martin is that he's really starting his pro career in AA. Looking at other college hitters from the same draft class, they all started in A/A+. Martin was labelled the most advance bat, but even still, I think he's adjusting a bit from college ball. His walk rate is excellent, and once his power develops some and catches up, he should really start to live up to expectations I think.

[InsideThePark]

Nice to see Orelvis heating up.

 

Next up hopefully we see Groshans and Martin start to light up AA in the same way.

 

Seems like they are just getting by for now, which is fine, but it'd be nice to see them start tearing it up.

 

Groshans has a 167 wRC+ and .921 OPS in the last 2 weeks. Feels like it's coming

[Jimcanuck]

Groshans has a 167 wRC+ and .921 OPS in the last 2 weeks. Feels like it's coming

 

Dunno, it's 2 weeks. He could have just gotten lucky on a couple of hits. Best to entirely disregard any small samples.

[InvincibleTiger]

What level is Hoglund gonna start at?

[Deadpool]

Dunno, it's 2 weeks. He could have just gotten lucky on a couple of hits. Best to entirely disregard any small samples.

 

While I generally agree, watching trends isn't completely worthless.

[Slade]

What level is Hoglund gonna start at?

 

Got to imagine Dunedin is the perfect place to start and rehab. I imagine they will be back to a High A team next year.

[Daniel Labude]

Got to imagine Dunedin is the perfect place to start and rehab. I imagine they will be back to a High A team next year.

 

Might depend when he debuts as well

[InvincibleTiger]

I go to watch the Fisher Cats and Martin scratched with Groshans having the night off.......

Already hard enough without Moreno

[vaff]

Thanks, was on my phone, so couldn't sort and cut as easy.

 

So based on this, approach seems to be the same the past 2 months and this looks to be a hot streak.

 

I worry that a promotion to A+ would lead to splits like below:

 

8-9 BB% 35-40 K%

 

Hope I'm wrong, but that's a possibility if you look at how his peripherals lined up in Rookie ball compared to Dunedin.

 

It’s possible, but it doesn’t always work like that.

 

When Ronald Acuna was 19 like Orelvis. His strike out rates were:

 

A+ - 31.7%

AA - 23.0%

AAA - 19.8%

 

It got better each level he advanced, for some reason.

 

He’s hitting for a ton of power for a 19 year old, and his strike out rate isn’t outrageous by any means. I think it’s just a matter of fine tuning things as he progresses.