Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[KingKat]

I wouldn't say that's true at all. Everything matters, every plate appearance, and every inning. If someone isn't doing well in Rookie ball that should effect how you project them in higher levels and their likelihood of eventually making it to the bigs. Its very rare for someone to flop at the lower levels and then turn it around.

 

Well sure but I think the larger point is that the numbers get more reliable as you move up. Players are more developed and so is their competition.

[Brownie19]

Bichette lead professional baseball in qualified wRC+ before today: http://www.fangraphs.com/minorleaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2016&team=0&players=0&sort=18,d

 

So I notice Cesar Tapia on the list....says he plays for Mexican (AAA). I click on the team and it's full of failed ex. major league players (Daric Barton, Nyjer Morgan, Willy Taveras, Carlos Quentin, Ruben Rivera, Wil Ledezma, Chad Gaudin, etc.).

 

Heck they have 2 players over 40 on the team.

 

Can someone smart explain this to me? Do the ML AAA teams simply play this Mexican AAA team?

[King]

So I notice Cesar Tapia on the list....says he plays for Mexican (AAA). I click on the team and it's full of failed ex. major league players (Daric Barton, Nyjer Morgan, Willy Taveras, Carlos Quentin, Ruben Rivera, Wil Ledezma, Chad Gaudin, etc.).

 

Heck they have 2 players over 40 on the team.

 

Can someone smart explain this to me? Do the ML AAA teams simply play this Mexican AAA team?

 

It's an independent league. Osuna played in that league when he was ~16

[bendera3]

So I notice Cesar Tapia on the list....says he plays for Mexican (AAA). I click on the team and it's full of failed ex. major league players (Daric Barton, Nyjer Morgan, Willy Taveras, Carlos Quentin, Ruben Rivera, Wil Ledezma, Chad Gaudin, etc.).

 

Heck they have 2 players over 40 on the team.

 

Can someone smart explain this to me? Do the ML AAA teams simply play this Mexican AAA team?

 

From my understanding it is an independent league that is generally accepted as having a AAA quality of play.

[nmrch]

So I notice Cesar Tapia on the list....says he plays for Mexican (AAA). I click on the team and it's full of failed ex. major league players (Daric Barton, Nyjer Morgan, Willy Taveras, Carlos Quentin, Ruben Rivera, Wil Ledezma, Chad Gaudin, etc.).

 

Heck they have 2 players over 40 on the team.

 

Can someone smart explain this to me? Do the ML AAA teams simply play this Mexican AAA team?

 

'Mexican AAA' refers to a league, not just a team. There's 16 teams in the Mexican League, they're not really a MILB league and have no professional affiliations with MLB teams. The level of competition is considered equivalent to a AAA league, that's where the 'AAA' comes from.

[admin]

Reid Foley's line today

 

6 IP 1H 2BB 10SO

 

Alright. Great bounce back after last start. Don't want to get too excited and it's a small sample size, but we haven't had many pitchers come through putting up numbers like that.

[Krylian]

Alright. Great bounce back after last start. Don't want to get too excited and it's a small sample size, but we haven't had many pitchers come through putting up numbers like that.

 

Syndergaard?

[King]

Stroman, Hutch, Norris

[admin]

Syndergaard?

 

Not even close.

SRF Age 20. A+ - 43IP 24H 9BB 54SO .77WHIP

SYND Age 20. A+ - 63IP 61H 16BB 64SO 1.21WHIP

Synd finished the year in AA, be interesting to see what happens with SRF.

Look at the movement on his pitches:

That's two years ago.

 

Most his negative stats coming from the one outing. Remove that outing and he has a 0.72ERA in six starts and under 5H/9IP 11.6K/9IP.

[admin]

Stroman, Hutch, Norris

 

Hutch is a fairly close comparable. I was never a fan of Norris, felt he was always over rated here. Be intersting to see what he turns into.

[Pendleton]

Not even close.

SRF Age 20. A+ - 43IP 24H 9BB 54SO .77WHIP

SYND Age 20. A+ - 63IP 61H 16BB 64SO 1.21WHIP

Synd finished the year in AA, be interesting to see what happens with SRF.

Look at the movement on his pitches:

That's two years ago.

 

I realize minor league stats aren't everything but that is extremely encouraging to say the least. SRF and Tellez are really making our farm look more legit with the seasons they're having.

[nmrch]

Not even close.

SRF Age 20. A+ - 43IP 24H 9BB 54SO .77WHIP

SYND Age 20. A+ - 63IP 61H 16BB 64SO 1.21WHIP

Synd finished the year in AA, be interesting to see what happens with SRF.

Look at the movement on his pitches:

That's two years ago.

 

I'm extremely encouraged by SRF's FSL numbers but he is kind of repeating the MWL and the FSL. I think that gives him a slight advantage even though he's putting up these numbers at the same age as Syndergaard. Also, this is the first time SRF has truly dominated, so lets see if this isn't just a hot streak. Syndergaard OTH, put up stellar numbers in the MWL as a 19 year old before doing well in A+.

[admin]

I'm extremely encouraged by SRF's FSL numbers but he is kind of repeating the MWL and the FSL. I think that gives him a slight advantage even though he's putting up these numbers at the same age as Syndergaard. Also, this is the first time SRF has truly dominated, so lets see if this isn't just a hot streak. Syndergaard OTH, put up stellar numbers in the MWL as a 19 year old before doing well in A+.

 

I know, like I said getting a little too excited and small sample size but it's pretty exciting to see how he develops. His numbers last year were pretty good too, just had issues with walks.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Overall I think the minors are in better shape then most give it credit for.

We have 4 out 5 staters set for next year. So find a stop gap for the Five hole next year! So they Have what 2-3 years to Develop too, encouraging!!!

 

If someone could only fix Hutch we be Golden, I tell ya!!!

 

SRF and Harris might be able to jump to Buffalo next year as well !!!

 

Maybe aggressive but what the Hell !!!

[Jimcanuck]

Vlad with 2 of Bluefield 4 hits today, both doubles.

 

Bo Bitches not in the GCL lineup, hmmm.

[Angrioter]

SRF, Perdomo, Vlad Jr, Bo B, Harris, Tellez, Urena, Maese....

 

Do we have a good farm?

[spats]

Does anyone know why Urena has been the DH for the last couple of weeks?

[SpeedyGose]

Vladdy jr has been really playing well lately! Since July 2nd (basically excluding his first week) he's hitting .313 .408 .516 151 wRC+ 14% bb 8% K

[Captain Adama]

SRF, Perdomo, Vlad Jr, Bo B, Harris, Tellez, Urena, Maese....

 

Do we have a good farm?

 

Only one of them is in double A. And 1 one other in Hi-A.

 

So no.

Edited July 20, 2016 by Captain Adama

[Krylian]

Only one of them is in double A. And 1 one other in Hi-A.

 

So no.

 

Not an advanced system...doesn't mean there aren't some very good pieces there.

[Orgfiller]

Not an advanced system...doesn't mean there aren't some very good pieces there.

 

He never argued otherwise. You just can't say that we have a bunch of studs in the making when the vast majority have yet to have proven themselves against advanced competition.

[Laika]

For everyone that emerged this season, someone has fallen off the map (Greene, Alford, DJ Davis).

 

Toronto is probably around 20th in farm rankings. Maybe slightly higher?

[Atothe]

For everyone that emerged this season, someone has fallen off the map (Greene, Alford, DJ Davis).

 

Toronto is probably around 20th in farm rankings. Maybe slightly higher?

 

Gotta give Alford a Mulligan. Leg issues and a concussion. Same with Pompey even though he isn't a rookie anymore

[King]

Greene says he's not worried about his statistics and that he's having a "learning year"

 

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20160710/SPORTS0102/160719962/1061/SPORTS0102

 

MANCHESTER - In his second stint with the New Hampshire Fisher Cats, pitcher Conner Greene is trying to soak up every piece of information he can. The 21-year-old righty wants to learn as much as possible while with the Fisher Cats as he works toward his goal of reaching the big leagues.

 

"Last year, I had a good year and I relied almost strictly off (my talent)," Greene said Friday at Northeast Delta Dental Stadium before New Hampshire's game against Binghamton. "This is a big learning year. I'm not too worried about the statistics of it because I'm gaining so much information right now and I'm applying things and just taking away and going about my plan."

 

Greene, the Toronto Blue Jays' top pitching and No. 2 overall prospect according to MLB.com, made five starts for New Hampshire last season. He posted a 3-1 record and 4.68 ERA. The Santa Monica, Calif., native went 4-4 with a 2.90 ERA over 15 starts with Advanced-A Dunedin (Fla.) before he was called up to the Fisher Cats on July 1.

 

Greene owns a 1-1 record and an 8.68 ERA over two starts for New Hampshire this season. While Greene isn't pleased with his performance with the Fisher Cats so far, he is trying to learn from the mistakes he made in both starts.

 

Two members of the Fisher Cats that Greene has been working with constantly since his arrival are pitching coach Vince Horsman and catcher Ryan Lavarnway.

 

Greene, a seventh-round pick by Toronto in the 2013 MLB draft, has been working with Horsman to develop his slider. Greene also throws a fastball, curveball and a changeup.

 

"Vince Horsman was my pitching coach last year in A ball so it's nice being here with him again," Greene said. "Me and him were working on some stuff last year so we're kind of picking up where we left off."

 

Chemistry is not a problem for Lavarnway, 28, and Greene. The two have known each other since Greene was 8 years old.

 

Lavarnway, who previously played for Boston, Baltimore and Atlanta in the MLB, played with Greene's older brother, Casey, in high school.

 

"He saw me when I was like a baby, a tiny kid who can't even throw a baseball," Greene said. "Now he's seeing me throw fastballs to him. It's weird. It's crazy."

 

Lavarnway's MLB experience has proven beneficial for Greene on the mound.

 

"He's fighting to get back up there as well but it's nice having a big leaguer that knows the game," Greene said. "It's just good because he gives you confidence because he says, 'Hey kid, you can do this. You're good enough to do it so just go do it.'"

 

Greene is looking to use what he learns from his Fisher Cats coaches and teammates to continue moving through Toronto's system. Until he receives another call up, Greene is focused on helping New Hampshire string wins together.

 

"It's a great team and great staff here so I'm just happy to give my efforts and do my best here for this team and hopefully I can keep on moving," Greene said.

[King]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-prospect-update-blue-jays-2/#yq2GPmDSHpxzcquM.97

 

Can someone post. BA did a Jays midseason prospect update

[burlingtonbandit]

Not even close.

SRF Age 20. A+ - 43IP 24H 9BB 54SO .77WHIP

SYND Age 20. A+ - 63IP 61H 16BB 64SO 1.21WHIP

Synd finished the year in AA, be interesting to see what happens with SRF.

Look at the movement on his pitches:

That's two years ago.

 

Most his negative stats coming from the one outing. Remove that outing and he has a 0.72ERA in six starts and under 5H/9IP 11.6K/9IP.

 

I feel like age doesn't matter much for pitching. Sure its nice for a guy to be younger but if you are comparing a 19 year old and 21 year and the 21 year old has better stuff you take him.

 

If a pitcher has the stuff to get guys out he can probably do it at most levels.

[John_Havok]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-prospect-update-blue-jays-2/#yq2GPmDSHpxzcquM.97

 

Can someone post. BA did a Jays midseason prospect update

 

Interesting projected lineup for 2019

 

2019 PROJECTED LINEUP

C Max Pentecost

1B Rowdy Tellez

2B Devon Travis

3B Josh Donaldson

SS Richard Urena

OF Anthony Alford

OF Dalton Pompey

OF Michael Saunders

DH Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

No. 1 Starter Marcus Stroman

No. 2 Starter Aaron Sanchez

No. 3 Starter Sean Reid-Foley

No. 4 Starter Conner Greene

No. 5 Starter Jon Harris

Closer Roberto Osuna

 

That probably wouldn't really suck too bad....

[Grant77]

Interesting projected lineup for 2019

 

2019 PROJECTED LINEUP

C Max Pentecost

1B Rowdy Tellez

2B Devon Travis

3B Josh Donaldson

SS Richard Urena

OF Anthony Alford

OF Dalton Pompey

OF Michael Saunders

DH Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

No. 1 Starter Marcus Stroman

No. 2 Starter Aaron Sanchez

No. 3 Starter Sean Reid-Foley

No. 4 Starter Conner Greene

No. 5 Starter Jon Harris

Closer Roberto Osuna

 

That probably wouldn't really suck too bad....

 

Tulo and Martin will still be around and there are some holes to fill, but nice pitching staff.

[Jimcanuck]

Interesting projected lineup for 2019

 

2019 PROJECTED LINEUP

C Max Pentecost

1B Rowdy Tellez

2B Devon Travis

3B Josh Donaldson

SS Richard Urena

OF Anthony Alford

OF Dalton Pompey

OF Michael Saunders

DH Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

No. 1 Starter Marcus Stroman

No. 2 Starter Aaron Sanchez

No. 3 Starter Sean Reid-Foley

No. 4 Starter Conner Greene

No. 5 Starter Jon Harris

Closer Roberto Osuna

 

That probably wouldn't really suck too bad....

 

What a useless exercise.... if that projected lineup is even half right in 2019, I will eat my s*** stained undershorts.

[Thaddeus Malice]

That is some confidence to project Vladdy Jr. as the DH on the Jays by the time he's 20. Seems like they just project each decent prospect out to the majors I guess. I want to believe though.

 

What's Urena's defense like at SS? He's certainly hitting it well enough there and he's in the FSL which isn't a hitters league at all.