Cola vs Smoak last 10 games of regular season

[Mikeleelop]

I've advocated playing Smoak more during the season, but seeing how he's failed against the breaking ball in full time duty lately I'd like to see Cola given a chance for a stretch.

 

Cola has decent 1B defence and Smoak hasn't played a clean 1B lately either

[Mikeleelop]

could someone with a higher knowledge level than me start a poll on this thread to see what everyone thinks??

 

edit - thanks!

[Solaxys]

Still waiting for those 4.32 HRs by Donaldson.

[RealAccountant]

Need the LHB bat in there

[Mikeleelop]

Still waiting for those 4.32 HRs by Donaldson.

 

one good series baby!

[CHRIS]

I picked Smoak, despite his struggles hitting the breaking ball. I know he's had a couple of defensive hiccoughs lately, but I still trust his D over Cola's.

 

I don't think he needs to hit 5th though, especially with Martin in the lineup.

[Dr. Dinger]

I think it's awesome that our team is so good that this is pretty much the only thing people have to fret about.

[rydermike]

I say Colabello to start and then replace him with Smoak in the 7th/8th for defensive reasons

[500LevelSTH]

Cola isnt getting enough PH abs...love him at first, but if Smoak is going to play, Martin should be hitting 5th, but i see him protecting Smoak somewhat in the 6 spot. Smoak has been a one rally killer for the most part last week or so. Golden sombrero the other night turned out to be a blessing as it gave Martin a chance instead of hitting into DP. These are great problems to have, could be much much worse

 

Bello vs Smoak is 6 of one, half dozen of the other argument.

Edited September 25, 2015 by 500LevelSTH

[Cyborg]

No option for platoon as usual?

[G-Snarls]

What are Smoak's L/R splits like?

[FrozenRopes]

Smoak gives you a better chance to win.

 

/thread

[Dick_Pole]

Smoak: 305 PA, 32 XBH, 53 RBI, 28 BB, 83K

Colabello: 336 PA, 32 XBH, 53 RBI, 22 BB, 88K

 

If you take away the fact that Colabello has had a bunch more ground balls find holes for singles, the production between the two is essentially the same. Go with the guy with better defense.

[polar bear]

Valencia would have been my choice,but superior minds prevail I guess.

[Mikeleelop]

Smoak: 305 PA, 32 XBH, 53 RBI, 28 BB, 83K

Colabello: 336 PA, 32 XBH, 53 RBI, 22 BB, 88K

 

If you take away the fact that Colabello has had a bunch more ground balls find holes for singles, the production between the two is essentially the same. Go with the guy with better defense.

 

except Cola wRC is 144 (same as Bautista) and Smoak is 104 (lower than Steve Tolleson) so their production is not the same

[BlueJays]

Sweet. No Mr. Strikeout tonight.

[Governator]

Sweet. No Mr. Strikeout tonight.

 

Yea replacing his bat with one of Barney / Pennington is maybe not so sweet.

[BlueBirdBro]

Can we stop with the BABIP is not sustainable argument for the rest of this season with Cola? We've been saying that for months.

[FrozenRopes]

I like both of them for different reasons. I think they make a pretty good platoon.

 

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That platoon image is awesome

[JFD]

I say Colabello to start and then replace him with Smoak in the 7th/8th for defensive reasons

 

this. every game should be this.

[BigCecil]

Sweet. No Mr. Strikeout tonight.

 

Yea replacing his bat with one of Barney / Pennington is maybe not so sweet.

 

Amen Gov. That is a nasty bottom 4. I don't think get this at all. At least with Cola or Smoak there is a better chance of some upside at the plate.

 

To give JD a day off in the field a day after a non travel off day? Must be something we aren't being told.

[Maahfaace]

Smoak: 305 PA, 32 XBH, 53 RBI, 28 BB, 83K

Colabello: 336 PA, 32 XBH, 53 RBI, 22 BB, 88K

 

If you take away the fact that Colabello has had a bunch more ground balls find holes for singles, the production between the two is essentially the same. Go with the guy with better defense.

 

Thats a broad way of looking at it, Cola is much better at squaring up the ball whereas Smoak is all heavy swing. When he does hit it, it gets destroyed as evident by more than half his hits going for extra bases. Cola may strike out at the same rate, but its not because he cant hit a breaking ball. Cola can also spray the ball all over the field, whereas Smoak is pull heavy and defenses load up on him. Its not all BABIP "luck" as a lot of the stat head only guys like to think.

In the playoffs any decent manager will pick up on Smoaks inability to hit the breaking ball, and he will rarely see a fastball. Him hitting 5th in the postseason is a mistake IMO.(if Tulo is still on the mend)

Cola's defense at first has been more than adequate this year and the difference between the two isnt as big as some would like to think. (-5DRS : 3DRS) (-1.0 UZR : 1.2 UZR)

All year the same tune has sung about Cola not being able to sustain his bat, yet he somehow has. Going forward the same thinking of him not sustaining it is probably true, but why not see if he can continue to buck the trend.

At the beginning of the year I was all for Smoak getting more playing time, but right now I'd much rather see Cola in there with Tulo still out. Once Tulo is back I'd probably roll with Smoak

[Trouba95]

Use Smoak, but drop him in the lineup. No way he should hit 5th if the pitcher has a good CB.

[Candy Maldonado]

#TeamColabello

[closetjaysfan]

Ill take platoon... but all things being equal, cola

[Mac Outlaw]

I've been pushing for more Colabello all year. I ain't stopping now.

 

Give me the guy with the OPS. Give me the guy with the PRODUCKSHUN

[BlueJays]

lol. Smoak batting 5th again.

[Atothe]

Thats a broad way of looking at it, Cola is much better at squaring up the ball whereas Smoak is all heavy swing. When he does hit it, it gets destroyed as evident by more than half his hits going for extra bases. Cola may strike out at the same rate, but its not because he cant hit a breaking ball. Cola can also spray the ball all over the field, whereas Smoak is pull heavy and defenses load up on him. Its not all BABIP "luck" as a lot of the stat head only guys like to think.

In the playoffs any decent manager will pick up on Smoaks inability to hit the breaking ball, and he will rarely see a fastball. Him hitting 5th in the postseason is a mistake IMO.(if Tulo is still on the mend)

Cola's defense at first has been more than adequate this year and the difference between the two isnt as big as some would like to think. (-5DRS : 3DRS) (-1.0 UZR : 1.2 UZR)

All year the same tune has sung about Cola not being able to sustain his bat, yet he somehow has. Going forward the same thinking of him not sustaining it is probably true, but why not see if he can continue to buck the trend.

At the beginning of the year I was all for Smoak getting more playing time, but right now I'd much rather see Cola in there with Tulo still out. Once Tulo is back I'd probably roll with Smoak

 

Cola strikes almost primarily on breaking balls but because he hits one here and there people forget that.

[Yorkshire Blue Jay]

The last time we faced Archer we got 2 runs off him in 7 innings..... courtesy of a 2 run HR from Colabello but he rides the pine today.

[Atothe]

The last time we faced Archer we got 2 runs off him in 7 innings..... courtesy of a 2 run HR from Colabello but he rides the pine today.

 

So start Cola and get ready for another 2-run homer?