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What should it be? What will it be?

 

First one to get predict the exact 25 man roster will receive a nominal prize from me. (an internet high-five)

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Pitching:

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada

Buerhle

Hendricks

Cecil

Sanchez

Osuna

Schultz

Hawkins

Lowe

 

Catchers: Martin and Navarro

 

IF: Pennington, Goins, Kawasaki, Colabello, Smoak, EE, Donaldson

 

OF: Revere, Bautista, Pillar, Cabrera

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Pitching:

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada

Buerhle

Hendricks

Cecil

Sanchez

Osuna

Schultz

Hawkins

Lowe

 

Catchers: Martin and Navarro

 

IF: Pennington, Goins, Kawasaki, Colabello, Smoak, EE, Donaldson

 

OF: Revere, Bautista, Pillar, Cabrera

 

Zero reason to have Schultz on the roster. Replace him with Pompey and it looks pretty good. Maybe Loup for Estrada/Buehrle to give you that 2nd lefty in the pen.

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Revere

Pillar

Bautista

Pompey

 

Tulo

Goins

Pennington

Donaldson

Edwin

Colabello

Smoak

 

Martin

Navarro

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada (pen?)

Buehrle (pen?)

_

Osuna

Sanchez

Hendriks

Hawkins

Lowe

Cecil

Loup

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Revere

Pillar

Bautista

Pompey

 

Tulo

Goins

Pennington

Donaldson

Edwin

Colabello

Smoak

 

Martin

Navarro

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada (pen?)

Buehrle (pen?)

_

Osuna

Sanchez

Hendriks

Hawkins

Lowe

Cecil

Loup

 

Lol at Loup making it, you think Gibby is gonna use Loup?

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I'd generally agree but AA and Gibbons seem to have weird roster management calls and I assume they'll bring Schultz because of that. I mean Pompey hasn't had a game since he was recalled. If they had any intent on using him in the playoffs he'd be playing now.
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I'd generally agree but AA and Gibbons seem to have weird roster management calls and I assume they'll bring Schultz because of that. I mean Pompey hasn't had a game since he was recalled. If they had any intent on using him in the playoffs he'd be playing now.

 

Schultz won't make it, guaranteed

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Lol at Loup making it, you think Gibby is gonna use Loup?

 

I do wonder if Gibby would be confident enough to go into the postseason with only one lefty middle reliever. Even if Buehrle gets put in the pen it's definitely a role he's not used to and you have to wonder how effective he would be there. On the other hand, Gibbons hasn't used Loup in too many high leverage spots lately and it's clear that Gibby's had a huge drop of confidence in him (understandably).

 

Although we actually had only one lefty reliever in the pen in 1992 (Wells, though Key was used as a reliever a bit in ALCS) and won the whole thing so perhaps it wouldn't matter as long as we have some rock solid guys going in and starters do a good enough job going deep.

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Revere

Pillar

Bautista

Pompey

 

Tulo

Goins

Pennington

Donaldson

Edwin

Colabello

Smoak

 

Martin

Navarro

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada (pen?)

Buehrle (pen?)

_

Osuna

Sanchez

Hendriks

Hawkins

Lowe

Cecil

Loup

 

Zero reason to have 8 bullpen pitchers. I'm also not so sure what the point of having Buehrle in the pen would be as he really doesn't have any value coming in for an inning or 2.

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Zero reason to have 8 bullpen pitchers. I'm also not so sure what the point of having Buehrle in the pen would be as he really doesn't have any value coming in for an inning or 2.

 

For ALDS at least it's possible that Buehrle won't get put in the rotation with only three guys needed so maybe that's what he meant (though that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll come out from the pen to pitch either).

 

and yeah, 8 bullpen pitchers won't happen as we will already have at least one of Stro/Estrada/Buehrle in the pen. Plus we won't be able to afford shallow bench depth especially with Tulo's health uncertain.

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Unfortunately, reading through the following story, Tulowitzki's return prior to the start of the playoffs sounds very unlikely - http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-tulowitzki-i-feel-like-im-making-strides/ . Tulowitzki gives a great interview and really sounds like a good guy, in addition to being an excellent player so this is very disappointing.

 

As far as the infield goes, it looks pretty certain that it will be:

Kawasaki

Goins

Pennington

Donaldson

Edwin (probably DH in the AL playoffs, with Smoak playing most games at 1B)

Colabello

Smoak

 

Martin

Navarro

 

Carrera

Revere

Pillar

Bautista

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada (SP/bullpen)

Buehrle (SP/bullpen - because he is a left-hander and can either start or pitch out of the bullpen. I can't see them excluding Buehrle because of his leadership and contributions this year, even if he just pitches out of the BP)

Osuna

Sanchez

Hendriks

Hawkins

Lowe

Cecil

Hutchison (it might be Loup instead since he is a left-hander but I hope not, Buehrle is also a left-hander who could pitch out of the bullpen so they might not need Loup)

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Why do we have to stuff unneeded starting pitchers in the pen at all? You set your 25 man roster per series not prior to the postseason. In the ALDS there would be zero reason not to have Pompey on the bench as a late inning sub.
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Although we actually had only one lefty reliever in the pen in 1992 (Wells, though Key was used as a reliever a bit in ALCS) and won the whole thing so perhaps it wouldn't matter as long as we have some rock solid guys going in and starters do a good enough job going deep.

 

It really didn't matter in 1992 because Cito didn't play lefty-righty matchups at all. He believed in set roles as much or more than Gibbons does.

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I'd generally agree but AA and Gibbons seem to have weird roster management calls and I assume they'll bring Schultz because of that. I mean Pompey hasn't had a game since he was recalled. If they had any intent on using him in the playoffs he'd be playing now.

 

Agreed

 

They're essentially using him as a pinch runner only and clearly have no intention of doing otherwise until maybe they clinch

 

You can't waste a 25 man playoff roster spot for that so he won't make it

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Who do you guys think start game 1 and game 2 in the divisional series? Price and Stroman?

 

Yes and yes as long as Stroman continues to look good

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I'd take both Carrera and Pompey. This team is slow and playoffs require pinch runners. 6 relievers and Burly is plenty. 11 pitchers 14 hitters

 

Stroman pinch runner for days.

 

LOL... JK. His knee injury has surely put a stop to that foolishness.

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Unfortunately, reading through the following story, Tulowitzki's return prior to the start of the playoffs sounds very unlikely - http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-tulowitzki-i-feel-like-im-making-strides/ . Tulowitzki gives a great interview and really sounds like a good guy, in addition to being an excellent player so this is very disappointing.

 

As far as the infield goes, it looks pretty certain that it will be:

Kawasaki - Tulowitzki

Goins

Pennington

Donaldson

Edwin (probably DH in the AL playoffs, with Smoak playing most games at 1B)

Colabello

Smoak

 

Martin

Navarro

 

Carrera

Revere

Pillar

Bautista

 

Price

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada (SP/bullpen)

Buehrle (SP/bullpen - because he is a left-hander and can either start or pitch out of the bullpen. I can't see them excluding Buehrle because of his leadership and contributions this year, even if he just pitches out of the BP)

Osuna

Sanchez

Hendriks

Hawkins

Lowe

Cecil

Hutchison (it might be Loup instead since he is a left-hander but I hope not, Buehrle is also a left-hander who could pitch out of the bullpen so they might not need Loup)

 

I think this story makes it definite that Tulowitzki will be on the 25 man roster instead of Kawasaki - http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/09/25/blue-jays-tulowitzki-willing-to-wait-until-the-playoffs-before-returning.html

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If Pompey makes the playoff roster it will be to pinch run only - Gibby just doesn`t trust him. If he admitted to playing scared in regular season games then what will he be like in playoff games.

 

Pompey has a lot of work ahead to regain that trust and if he does he could well flourish in the future but the club feels he`s just not ready.

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Pompey will be the Willie Canate of the 1993 WS team. He only came in once to pinch run and got thrown out in a pickle at home. Never played another game in the MLB. Still got a WS ring though lol.
Posted
Hope Tulo get going they need him @ SS. Every one else looks pretty solid, ambivalent towards FB but 3rd SP makes me want to drink.......
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Jays current roster:

 

Catchers (3)

 

Russel Martin

Josh Thole

Dioner Navarro

 

Infielders (10)

 

Darwin Barney

Josh Donaldson

Edwin Encarnacion

Ryan Goins

Matt Hague

Munenori Kawasaki

Cliff Pennington

Justin Smoak

Troy Tulowitzki

Chris Colabello

 

Outfielders (5)

 

Jose Bautista

Ezequiel Carrera

Kevin Pillar

Dalton Pompey

Ben Revere

 

Pitchers (18)

 

Mark Buehrle

Brett Cecil

Steve Delabar

RA Dickey

Marco Estrada

Jeff Francis

Latroy Hawkins

Liam Hendriks

Drew Hutchison

Chad Jenkins

Aaron Loup

Mark Lowe

Roberto Osuna

David Price

Aaron Sanchez

Bo Schultz

Marcus Stroman

Ryan Tepera

 

Once the post-season starts, we need to cut down to 25 players.

 

Questions:

 

1) Who should make the cut?

2) Should the Jays consider dropping veterans like Buehrle/Dickey from the roster if it will give them a better team?

3) Should the Jays give preference to the 'guys that got them here' versus recent additions?

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It's actually all pretty well decided and obvious. The only one I would change is Carrera for Pompey, since he's a better baserunner and has more power. However, since Pompey hasn't been given ANY at bats in September, that clearly isn't going to happen. The only interesting roster spot is deciding the last two pitchers between Buehrle, Hutch, and Loup. Hutch is probably on the outside looking in, but it's also possible that Hawkins is more injured than they're letting on and could get left out, opening a spot for Hutch. I don't mind Buehrle as the 2nd lefty and long man, I think that works fine and Loup should be optional. I would even consider keeping Pompey and Carrera rather than Loup.

 

Catchers (2)

 

Russel Martin

Dioner Navarro

 

Infielders (7)

 

Josh Donaldson

Edwin Encarnacion

Ryan Goins

Cliff Pennington

Justin Smoak

Troy Tulowitzki

Chris Colabello

 

Outfielders (4)

 

Jose Bautista

Ezequiel Carrera

Kevin Pillar

Ben Revere

 

Pitchers (12)

 

Mark Buehrle

Brett Cecil

RA Dickey

Marco Estrada

Latroy Hawkins

Liam Hendriks

Aaron Loup OR Drew Hutchison

Mark Lowe

Roberto Osuna

David Price

Aaron Sanchez

Marcus Stroman

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