Governator Community Moderator Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 ALDS Rotation? Game 1 Price Game 2 Dickey Day off Game 3 Stroman Game 4 Price Game 5 Dickey Idea being Estrada is long man in BP in the event either Dickey or Price struggle on short rest, don't need Hutch or Buehrle and can have an extra bench option in Carerra or Kawasaki.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I agree with you on Pompey, but if Gibbons is going to make the decision to take him over Carrera (which he should), then it behooves him to give Pompey at least a FEW damn PAs before the playoffs. I think our best bet at this point re: Pompey is that he gets a chance in the second game tonight and does something noteworthy, aside from baserunning.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Not many RH relievers will get used other than Osuna, Hawkins and Hendricks anyway. Maybe Lowe. Really no role for Hutch at all and Gibby CLEARLY doesn't trust him at all any more.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Not many RH relievers will get used other than Osuna, Hawkins and Hendricks anyway. Maybe Lowe. Really no role for Hutch at all and Gibby CLEARLY doesn't trust him at all any more. If that's the case then Carrera should be included as second PR. Buehrle has no benefit on the roster. Eating innings isn't a skill that is wanted in the playoffs.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 If that's the case then Carrera should be included as second PR. Buehrle has no benefit on the roster. Eating innings isn't a skill that is wanted in the playoffs. Not sure I agree. Blowouts happen. If it means throwing MB in there so as to preserve better options for other closer games/situations. I don't think you need both MB and Hutch, but I think you need to have one of them. I'd choose MB.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Not many RH relievers will get used other than Osuna, Hawkins and Hendricks anyway. Maybe Lowe. Really no role for Hutch at all and Gibby CLEARLY doesn't trust him at all any more. Can you blame him?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) If that's the case then Carrera should be included as second PR. Buehrle has no benefit on the roster. Eating innings isn't a skill that is wanted in the playoffs. He's our second best lefty though isn't he? I mean he's never thrown out of the pen but I'd take him over Loup any day in the 7th or 8th if Cecil has been used or is being saved. Plus, I hate to say this cause I'll sound like a lame baseball dinosaur, but he has so much experience including playoffs and he is still Mark Buehrle. There's just no way I can see AA/Gibby leaving him off the roster. Edited September 30, 2015 by G-Snarls
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Can you blame him? Hell no I don't want Hutch on this team in the post season AT ALL Like I don't even want to be vaguely aware that he's in the pen and MIGHT get used for ONE inning at SOME POINT. The thought makes me shaky, nauseous, nervous and frankly despaired.
Caper Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 There is NO way Buehrle is not going to be on the playoff roster.
Caper Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Would love to find a spot for Matt Hague.
Caper Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Also, I would love to see Buehrle on the velocity program over the off season to see where it can get him.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Also, I would love to see Buehrle on the velocity program over the off season to see where it can get him. He will retire i guarantee it
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I'd go with: Catchers (2) Russell Martin Dioner Navarro Infielders (7) Josh Donaldson (3B) Edwin Encarnacion (DH) Ryan Goins (2B) Cliff Pennington (Backup IF) Justin Smoak (1B vs. R, PH otherwise) Troy Tulowitzki (SS) Chris Colabello (1B vs. L, PH otherwise) Outfielders (4) Jose Bautista (RF) Kevin Pillar (CF) Dalton Pompey (4OF/PR) Ben Revere (LF) Pitchers (12) Brett Cecil (L #1) RA Dickey (#3) Marco Estrada (#4) Latroy Hawkins (R #2) Liam Hendriks (SU) Drew Hutchison (R #3) Aaron Loup (L #2) Mark Lowe (SU) Roberto Osuna (CL) David Price (#1) Aaron Sanchez (R #1) Marcus Stroman (#2) Buehrle really has no use. Pompey is a better pinch runner than Carerra and that's what 4th OF will be used for. What's the point of Hutch
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Would love to find a spot for Matt Hague. Lmao
Caper Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Did Bo Shultz die? I feel like I haven't seen him in a month.
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I still think Buehrle makes the roster even if we don't need him. They'll use veteran leadership, post season experience, swan song or valuable 3 years with the Jays as an excuse to why he is on the post season roster.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I still think Buehrle makes the roster even if we don't need him. They'll use veteran leadership, post season experience, swan song or valuable 3 years with the Jays as an excuse to why he is on the post season roster. I think he makes the roster because other than Cecil you don't have another lefty option that you can rely on out of the pen and you can't use Cecil twice. Loup has been given chances down the stretch and has not shown he can be relied on. I think MB can be as pure Loogy
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I think he makes the roster because other than Cecil you don't have another lefty option that you can rely on out of the pen and you can't use Cecil twice. Loup has been given chances down the stretch and has not shown he can be relied on. I think MB can be as pure Loogy Exactly
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Buehrle as a Loogy? lol, his 3.66 K/9 against them outta really get us out of jams.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I'd go with: Catchers (2) Russell Martin Dioner Navarro Infielders (7) Josh Donaldson (3B) Edwin Encarnacion (DH) Ryan Goins (2B) Cliff Pennington (Backup IF) Justin Smoak (1B vs. R, PH otherwise) Troy Tulowitzki (SS) Chris Colabello (1B vs. L, PH otherwise) Outfielders (4) Jose Bautista (RF) Kevin Pillar (CF) Dalton Pompey (4OF/PR) Ben Revere (LF) Pitchers (12) Brett Cecil (L #1) RA Dickey (#3) Marco Estrada (#4) Latroy Hawkins (R #2) Liam Hendriks (SU) Drew Hutchison (R #3) Aaron Loup (L #2) Mark Lowe (SU) Roberto Osuna (CL) David Price (#1) Aaron Sanchez (R #1) Marcus Stroman (#2) Buehrle really has no use. Pompey is a better pinch runner than Carerra and that's what 4th OF will be used for. I'll use this but take Carrera instead of Hutch. You don't need that many pitchers and Hutch hasn't even been used in September anyway.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Buehrle as a Loogy? lol, his 3.66 K/9 against them outta really get us out of jams. Certainly not a lefty specialist, but he has a knack for inducing DPs and has the best pickoff move on the team that can help contain the running game. I'm certain there will be a time when he'll be helpful in the playoffs.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Not a chance that Buehrle is better than Loup against a lefty for one PA.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Certainly not a lefty specialist, but he has a knack for inducing DPs and has the best pickoff move on the team that can help contain the running game. I'm certain there will be a time when he'll be helpful in the playoffs. Loup gets more groundballs and strikes more guys out. I'll take my chances with the better player.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Loup gets more groundballs and strikes more guys out. I'll take my chances with the better player. You might prefer Loup over Buerhle, but I'm not convinced the people making the decision would choose Loup if it's one or the other. Either way, if MB is on the roster, they will find a use for him at some stage.
mellowgold Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Why not both Loup and Buehrle? Martin Navarro Encarnacion Smoak Colabello Donaldson Tuliwitzki Goins Pennington Bautista Pillar Revere Pompey Price Stroman Dickey Estrada Osuna Sanchez Lowe Hendricks Hawkins Cecil Loup Buehrle I think this is what we'll see
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Buehrle as a Loogy? lol, his 3.66 K/9 against them outta really get us out of jams. ^ This. I love Mark B but he is useful as a SP or not at all. And Im sad to say he cant make this playoff rotation.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Not a chance that Buehrle is better than Loup against a lefty for one PA. A typical Loup outing Walk Bloop single Strikeout Another bloop single #blowsgame but fip is good
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 A typical Loup outing Walk Bloop single Strikeout Another bloop single #blowsgame but fip is good You forgot the HBP. And homerun to a lefty.
King Old-Timey Member Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 A typical Loup outing Walk Bloop single Strikeout Another bloop single #blowsgame but fip is good Loup rarely walks anyone
43211234 Verified Member Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 It boggles my mind how anyone could not have put RealAccountant on their ignore list yet.
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