abola2121 Verified Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 He'd be the same age as Jose in 2010, and EE in 2012 when they started putting up big numbers.
flafson Verified Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I could be wrong but i think Smoak has a very long swing which makes him hit and miss quite a lot. You don't have the same from Jose and Edwin.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 He'd be the same age as Jose in 2010, and EE in 2012 when they started putting up big numbers. He's consistently put up pretty nice walk rates. Power is undeniable. Pretty even splits. Sure, why not.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I was under the impression that was going to happen in 2015.
JFD Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 HAHA no what you see is what you get.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I think you can expect a wRC+ between 105 and 120 for Smoak depending on what his BABIP is. As a platoon 1B he isn't going to have much value either way though.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I think you can expect a wRC+ between 105 and 120 for Smoak depending on what his BABIP is. As a platoon 1B he isn't going to have much value either way though. So between not very good and very good, depending on luck. Going out waaaaaay on a limb there man
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Smoak seems to have consistently come up huge in a bunch of really important situations for us...... and then I checked his WPA and he's almost dead last on the team lol.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Smoak seems to have consistently come up huge in a bunch of really important situations for us...... and then I checked his WPA and he's almost dead last on the team lol. Avoiding confirmation bias 101
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I don't know why but I have such a soft spot for Justin Smoak. I really shouldn't but I just feel like he could really get his s*** together at any time.
Trouba95 Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 He needs to learn to recognize the breaking ball.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I don't know why but I have such a soft spot for Justin Smoak. I really shouldn't but I just feel like he could really get his s*** together at any time. i do
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 still got upside (not WYSIWG) probably no more than an average 1B at his peak
baubau Verified Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 i do Boxy has a thing for big white guys?
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 still got upside (not WYSIWG) probably no more than an average 1B at his peak He's pretty much an average 1B right now.
thatoneguy Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 If he can change the mechanics of his swing (and lead it to become a bit shorter in particular), he has enough power to compensate.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Will he learn how to hit breaking balls?
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 So between not very good and very good, depending on luck. Going out waaaaaay on a limb there man Could probably shrink the high end down a bit. Point of the post is we pretty much know what to expect from the BB, SO and ISO rate.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 i do Why? You don't know anything. About anything.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Aside from the numbers alone he shows a propensity for being able to hit the ball away with power fairly consistently and also gets to pitches inside. On the neg as many has said his swing is a little long and his pitch recognition isn't great considering his decent walk rate. Overall this gives me hope he has quite a bit more upside.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Why? You don't know anything. About anything. Same reason you took him in LOD you transparent obvious cheesefart
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Same reason you took him in LOD you transparent obvious cheesefart Wasn't that Cyborg?
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Same reason you took him in LOD you transparent obvious cheesefart Right, because I had a soft spot for him for no reason, dumb s***. I didn't know he was a hit fx superstar until after I grabbed him because Cyborg started with the waterworks.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Right, because I had a soft spot for him for no reason, dumb s***. I didn't know he was a hit fx superstar until after I grabbed him because Cyborg started with the waterworks. suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
MunenoriKawasakiMVP Verified Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Jiiiiiiinnnnxxxxxxxxxxx
BlueJays Verified Member Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Yeah. He did a little while ago.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Rethinking Smoak. The BB rate is under 10% and the K rate is over 27%. Lost in last nights euphoria was an another abysmal night for him at the plate. He is consistently overmatched by good breaking balls and his bat looks very slow with a long swing. If he cant address this I'm afraid his ceiling is not very high.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Rethinking Smoak. The BB rate is under 10% and the K rate is over 27%. Lost in last nights euphoria was an another abysmal night for him at the plate. He is consistently overmatched by good breaking balls and his bat looks very slow with a long swing. If he cant address this I'm afraid his ceiling is not very high. Yea I don't think his future is going to be much more than what we're seeing, though his defense is still outstanding. I'd bet any $ Colabello couldn't turn that DP last night (The lefty advantage of turning 2).
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Rethinking Smoak. The BB rate is under 10% and the K rate is over 27%. Lost in last nights euphoria was an another abysmal night for him at the plate. He is consistently overmatched by good breaking balls and his bat looks very slow with a long swing. If he cant address this I'm afraid his ceiling is not very high. It wasn't lost on me He continues to disappoint offensively all the time
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 He'd be the same age as Jose in 2010, and EE in 2012 when they started putting up big numbers. Of course anything is possible, but it's important to realize how extremely rare it is to have a hitter emerge as an elite talent that late in his career... the fact that we have two is downright remarkable.
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