Can the Royals catch the Jays?

[Dick_Pole]

Thanks to the Royals' implosion against the White Sox at home, the Jays find themselves within striking distance of first place overall and home advantage through the playoffs. 4 games back with 26 left. The Jays won the season series so they only need to tie them to take first seed in the AL. First priority is taking care of the Yankees but we can always dream big.

[Trouba95]

First take care of the Yanks and then we can talk Royals. That's how I see it at least.

[BigCecil]

Thanks to the Royals' implosion against the White Sox at home, the Jays find themselves within striking distance of first place overall and home advantage through the playoffs. 4 games back with 26 left. The Jays won the season series so they only need to tie them to take first seed in the AL. First priority is taking care of the Yankees but we can always dream big.

 

I was going to get pissed off for people looking past winning the Div which is the most critical objective...but then your last sentence

[puphood]

Thanks to the Royals' implosion against the White Sox at home, the Jays find themselves within striking distance of first place overall and home advantage through the playoffs. 4 games back with 26 left. The Jays won the season series so they only need to tie them to take first seed in the AL. First priority is taking care of the Yankees but we can always dream big.

I am glad you started this as I have been watching this scenario for the last 2-3 weeks and yeah we got to beat the NYY first but the Royals don't have it that easy either and if I ain't wrong it would make for Jays vs wild card which could be the NYY again.

[ElNik2013]

To all of those saying, "first take care of the Yankees and then worry 'bout the Royals", it's the other way around, if the Jays catch the Royals, it's very unlikely that the Yankees would catch the Jays.

[IronLadle]

I am glad you started this as I have been watching this scenario for the last 2-3 weeks and yeah we got to beat the NYY first but the Royals don't have it that easy either and if I ain't wrong it would make for Jays vs wild card which could be the NYY again.

 

I don't know how well the Yankee's fair in a one game playoff. They will likely play Texas or Houston and both teams have an ace where as the Yanks don't.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Better question can the Royals hold off the Jays???

 

f*** the Yankees focus ahead of us, just win baby!!!

[BigCecil]

To all of those saying, "first take care of the Yankees and then worry 'bout the Royals", it's the other way around, if the Jays catch the Royals, it's very unlikely that the Yankees would catch the Jays.

 

Its all one game and one W at a time. Results/standings will take care of themselves. We have more control over our own destiny within the Div. That's who we play.

 

We win the Div I'm happy. We surpass the Royals...assuming they remain in the top spot....I'm happy.

[Dick_Pole]

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I was going to get pissed off for people looking past winning the Div which is the most critical objective...but then your last sentence

 

Oh yes, I'm certainly not looking past it...but the last thread in the same vein about catching the Yankees had to have its role reversed two weeks after it was made

 

What I'm optimistic about is that KC plays Cleveland 7 times and they have been sneaky good. They helped big time against the Yankees while just bad enough against the Jays to lose 2 of 3.

 

But the other posters have a point...if the Jays are successful in catching the Royals, that pretty much implies they took the AL East unless there was a 10 game losing streak or something on their part.

[Hipfan]

Oh yes, I'm certainly not looking past it...but the last thread in the same vein about catching the Yankees had to have its role reversed two weeks after it was made

 

What I'm optimistic about is that KC plays Cleveland 7 times and they have been sneaky good. They helped big time against the Yankees while just bad enough against the Jays to lose 2 of 3.

 

But the other posters have a point...if the Jays are successful in catching the Royals, that pretty much implies they took the AL East unless there was a 10 game losing streak or something on their part.

 

I have to say, after watching the Cleveland series, I was pretty impressed by them and kind of wonder how they haven't made more noise in the playoff picture this year. They have some great pitching, and here's hoping they beat KC a lot over this last month. With Cueto seemingly falling apart at the seams, KC might be due for a bit of a losing streak. Can't say I'm in love with their starting pitchers...

[SAAviour]

Ask not if they Jays can catch the Royals, but if the Royals can hold off the Jays.

[labadee]

Ask not if they Jays can catch the Royals, but if the Royals can hold off the Jays.

 

that was deep, Confucius

[intrigid]

The Jays are 10 games up in expected W-L, with just under 1/6 of a season remaining, the base case is that they cut that lead in half and finish 2 games back of the Royals. The question is whether they can come up with 2 extra wins above and beyond the base case. Also remember that their expected W-L doesn't fully account for their recent roster upgrades, and the possible return of Stroman. If you factor these in, then the base case might be the Jays finishing 1 back of the Royals. Definitely doable but I'd but their chances at about 30%.

[RealAccountant]

Cueto is more evidence NL pitching stats are unreliable

[Mozzer]

I think they have too many road games left. If somehow they swept the Yankees in NY, maybe we can have this conversation.

[BigCecil]

Oh yes, I'm certainly not looking past it...but the last thread in the same vein about catching the Yankees had to have its role reversed two weeks after it was made

 

What I'm optimistic about is that KC plays Cleveland 7 times and they have been sneaky good. They helped big time against the Yankees while just bad enough against the Jays to lose 2 of 3.

 

But the other posters have a point...if the Jays are successful in catching the Royals, that pretty much implies they took the AL East unless there was a 10 game losing streak or something on their part.

 

They do have a point, but I am old school in the sense that to me that's looking past the enemy right in front of you. We don't have any head to head KC games. We control our own destiny with the AL East and right now we are virtually tied with the Yanks.

 

It seems laughable now that when we caught and blew past the Yanks some were saying they were an old team who couldn't catch up the FB this late in the season etc. McCaan and A-Rod etc wont die and they have some very good arms.

[TBJESE]

Cueto is more evidence NL pitching stats are unreliable

 

It's mostly evidence that pitching elbows are unreliable.

[flafson]

Cueto is more evidence NL pitching stats are unreliable

 

He had no problem against us...

[Followthelight]

He had no problem against us...

 

We hit him pretty well didn't we in KC. We might be chasing the yanks soon if we don;t beat boston so premature thread. Yanks also have a favourable schedule , we have a lot on the road,.

[Dick_Pole]

Jays are 3 back of the Royals (with tiebreaker advantage) and 2.5 up on the Yankees. So they essentially have the same chance of taking over the Royals for #1 seed as they do to losing the division to the Yankees

[RealAccountant]

Jays are 3 back of the Royals (with tiebreaker advantage) and 2.5 up on the Yankees. So they essentially have the same chance of taking over the Royals for #1 seed as they do to losing the division to the Yankees

 

Not necessarily

 

Yankees play Jays 6 more times. We don't play the Royals at all. Yankees have a much better chance of catching us

[Dick_Pole]

Not necessarily

 

Yankees play Jays 6 more times. We don't play the Royals at all. Yankees have a much better chance of catching us

 

They have more opportunity to catch us, not necessarily a better chance. Most likely the 6 remaining games get split 3-3. There was a time when people said the Royals had the easiest schedule of the three teams. They've been s***ing bricks recently with those supposedly winnable games and now play 16 of their last 22 on the road. In Detroit and at home to Seattle are the Royals' only two easy match-ups remaining.

 

But yeah, I'll feel a lot better after this series against the Yankees is over.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

First take care of the Yanks and then we can talk Royals. That's how I see it at least.

 

Yeah, this is how I feel. If the Jays don't win 3/4 we shouldn't even have this conversation.

[intrigid]

Not necessarily

 

Yankees play Jays 6 more times. We don't play the Royals at all. Yankees have a much better chance of catching us

 

Also the Blue Jays are the most underachieving team in baseball, while the Royals have been overachieving. Yankees are right where they should be. Jays are more likely to finish with the best record in the AL than they are to finish 2nd in the division.

[jays_fever]

KC down 3 in the 5th, good chance to cut the lead to 1.5 games

[Jimcanuck]

3 outs from 1 game back of the royal turds

[intentional wok]

Loooooooooool Tigers

[itsawrap]

I'm getting ahead of myself but does anyone who we play if we end up with the best record in the league, the Yankees win the WC game, and end up having a better record than the AL West division winner?

 

Do we play the Yankees or the AL West winner?

[Billy Bats]

We're taking the division and the #1 seed!!!

[Spanky99]

We're taking the division and the #1 seed!!!

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

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