Rogers Centre Improvements

[Spanky99]

I'm thinking maybe the turf would be too "loose" and prone to wrinkling if you did this? There must be a reason it's installed on concrete.

 

The reason was Olympics, hockey, skating, etc...the ice pipes under and throughout the complex.

[Yorkshire Blue Jay]

Here's a pic showing the area of the dirt infield

 

http://s23.postimg.org/4xrw99te3/Dift_Infield.jpg

[Brownie19]

Here's a pic showing the area of the dirt infield

 

http://s23.postimg.org/4xrw99te3/Dift_Infield.jpg

 

Looks like they also moved the right field wall in to help hid Bautista's defensive issues!!!

[Travis_Snider]

its a weird perspective to take a picture from there.

[Sorrow]

its a weird perspective to take a picture from there.

 

The VIP level right above home plate? What's odd about that?

[ValiantJaysFan]

Here's a pic showing the area of the dirt infield

 

http://s23.postimg.org/4xrw99te3/Dift_Infield.jpg

 

Those edges do not look beveled to me. Color me concerned.

[Stangstag]

Those edges do not look beveled to me. Color me concerned.

 

You do understand that the turf goes on top of the concrete, adding another inch or two? Why does the concrete need to be beveled?

[Travis_Snider]

quite a short porch in right

[nextyear]

Here's a pic showing the area of the dirt infield

 

http://s23.postimg.org/4xrw99te3/Dift_Infield.jpg

 

 

When they are ready to test a variety of grass they could quickly rip up the infield diamond and test out grass just in the infield.

 

It doesn't look like drainage would be a big challenge for the approximately 5,000 square feet of infield turf (which for now will be artificial turf). The drainage system for the grass infield could just be pumps and hose to a reservoir so that the water could keep being recycled.

Edited February 20, 2016 by nextyear

[Stangstag]

When they are ready to test a variety of grass they could quickly rip up the infield diamond and test out glass just in the infield.

 

It doesn't look like drainage would be a big challenge for the approximately 5,000 square feet of infield turf (which for now will be artificial turf). The drainage system for the grass infield could just be pumps and hose to a reservoir so that the water could keep being recycled.

 

You would be wrong. Its already going to be hell just to worry about the drainage for the dirt infield. There was a great article a few weeks ago that explained all the problems they have to work through just to preserve the dirt.

[nextyear]

You would be wrong. Its already going to be hell just to worry about the drainage for the dirt infield. There was a great article a few weeks ago that explained all the problems they have to work through just to preserve the dirt.

 

 

I think I know the article that you are thinking of, and from what I remember the issues were in getting the dirt composition correct and making sure that it wasn't too wet or too dry (I remember Tropicana Field was mentioned and that the dirt infield would dry out too quickly).

 

I have been in engineering for over 30 years, and the idea that providing drainage for 5,000 square feet of grass is a major challenge is very puzzling to me. Surely providing drainage to an outdoor field that can get major rainfall is more of a problem than in an enclosed stadium, and it has been done for outdoor fields countless times in both major sports parks and small municipal sports fields.

 

I think Yorkshire Blue Jay summed up the issue previously in the following post:

 

The main issues and expenses with installing grass in Rogers Centre are the drainage required and the air flow within the Skydome when the roof is closed. None of these issues will be addressed by doing a spot trial inside the diamond.

 

Growing grass in indoor stadia is nothing new and is quite easy when the building is designed with this in mind. The main issue we have is trying to retrofit it into an existing building which was designed primarily to host multiple different sports without grass.

 

 

His point seems to be more along the lines of what is the point of doing a spot trial when the technology is already known. However, in my opinion, if 40 - 50% (to pick a number) of baseball action occurs within the boundaries of the dirt infield and a hypothetical grass infield diamond then "why not?". I am not sure that this would even have a major impact on other uses of the Rogers Centre; couldn't most other uses occur on the artificial turf?

 

PS: The pictures above already demonstrate that removing the concrete floor is no challenge at all.

[KingKat]

they could quickly rip up the infield diamond and test out glass just in the infield.

 

 

Ah-hem..

[nextyear]

Ah-hem..

 

Fixed it.

 

Am I the only one who would like to see the Rogers Centre have a dirt with grass infield? Wouldn't it be something of a selling point for free-agent catchers, infielders, and pitchers to know that they would mostly be playing on grass and dirt? I think it would be, and it could be done in the short term instead of waiting indefinitely for an entire grass field. However, I am just dreaming.

[Stangstag]

Fixed it.

 

Am I the only one who would like to see the Rogers Centre have a dirt with grass infield? Wouldn't it be something of a selling point for free-agent catchers, infielders, and pitchers to know that they would mostly be playing on grass and dirt? I think it would be, and it could be done in the short term instead of waiting indefinitely for an entire grass field. However, I am just dreaming.

 

We would all like to see it, I just don't think its as easy as you think it is.

[o2cui2i]

Those edges do not look beveled to me. Color me concerned.

 

does the turf lay straight on the concrete or is there a layer of padding?

[ValiantJaysFan]

You do understand that the turf goes on top of the concrete, adding another inch or two? Why does the concrete need to be beveled?

 

I'm having visions of Donaldson charging at a weak ground ball and tripping over the edge of the concrete, breaking his foot or something.

[ValiantJaysFan]

does the turf lay straight on the concrete or is there a layer of padding?

 

I think there's rubber between the turf and the concrete but there's so got to be a gap between the turf and the dirt I would think

[Jimcanuck]

does the turf lay straight on the concrete or is there a layer of padding?

 

Have you heard of Google?

[o2cui2i]

I think there's rubber between the turf and the concrete but there's so got to be a gap between the turf and the dirt I would think

 

maybe the dirt extends in under the turf so that the edge of the grass would be inside the edge of the concrete edge? that would be a logical solution. it wouldn't have to be more than a few inches and you'd never come contact with the concrete in any baseball situation.

[o2cui2i]

Have you heard of Google?

 

http://tinyurl.com/turf-surface-padding

[nextyear]

http://tinyurl.com/turf-surface-padding

 

 

Rickrolled . Nice use of Google.

[Spanky99]

C'mon man... really people?!

[G-Snarls]

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[Jonn]

 

Nothing about this looks or sounds right.

[Orgfiller]

Nothing about this looks or sounds right.

 

Care to elaborate?

[Sammy225]

Nothing about this looks or sounds right.

 

I take it you have done this a lot lol

[Spanky99]

I take it you have done this a lot lol

 

He clearly hasn't... lol.

[Jonn]

Care to elaborate?

 

It looks dangerous. I would have to see the finished product. It just looks like it could have some problems.

[Governator]

It looks like a kid's sandbox at the moment.