Mike Wilner vs. Fake Wilner

[Olerud363]

OK people. I know the kids don't like too many threads on the board. However there is no question this is thread worthy...

 

There are a few little jokes on the Game Thread from last night... Apparently Fake Wilner posted that Drew Hutchison "almost" pitched a perfect game. Everybody is like "lol sounds like something Real Wilner might say"...

 

Well here is the things.. Driving through New England last night I had the opportunity to listen the real Mike Wilner show on XM (apparently if there is no West Coast game after, they just continue on with the post game).

 

Real Wilner mentioned that Drew Hutchison almost pitched a perfect game. He spent altleast 5 minutes, possibly 10 on the subject... he brought it up several times.

 

1. Wilner went through each of the 4 hits, explaining that they weren't real hits... 2 grounders, 1 bunt, and a squibber.

2. Wilner said "Nobody will remember this years from now... years from now it will just be a 4 hitter, but Drew Hutchison was this close to perfection."

3. He called the performance a "Maddux" (this was fair enough)

4. "This close to perfection". He said it several times!

 

It's just funning that everyone is assuming the Fake Wilner made a good joke... but a lot of the time Fake Wilner isn't joking, he is just listening to real Wilner and transcribing it!

 

Please share your favourite real wilner stories here!

[RealAccountant]

My favorite is how when the Orioles Rays etc are doing well he will always say that its like a fluke and how they will come down to earth but they never do lol. However when the Jays get off to a great starts and he makes statements like this was what the plan was they quickly fall off.

[Olerud363]

Also there was a very interesting argument between Wilner and a caller that wanted Bautista on the DL.

 

The caller tried to make the following argument -

 

1. Jose Bautista is not slugging very high with his bad shoulder (caller provided data that Jose only has .420 slugging with bad shoulder.)

2. Yes Jose is getting on base

3. But Smoak can provide defense and .400 slugging at first for 15 days.

4. After the 15 days Jose can return with a good shoulder, play the outfield and provide .500 slugging for the next 100 games.

 

Wilner was having none of it, he brought out all his sarcasm and smugness.

 

Wilner - No. You don't take Jose Bautista out of the line-up for Justin Smoak.

 

Caller - But what I'm saying Mike is that Jose needs a rest, his power is down, Edwin would get a rest too. We wouldn't lose much over 15 games, then we'd have a healthy Jose for the rest of the year.

 

Wilner - No. You don't take Jose Bautista out of the line-up for Justin Smoak.

 

Caller - But Mike, his power is down. I think it will come back if he gets a rest.

 

Wilner - Well, yes (grudgingly) I admit he's not the 50 homer Jose Bautista anymore, but he is still getting on base, he still drives in runs. He's still got an .800 OPS.

 

Caller - But Mike!!! I think if he gets a rest he will be back to 35 homer, .900 OPS Jose. That;s all I'm saying. It's only 15 games. And he will back at full power.

 

Wilner - No! You don't take Bautista our of the lineup for Justin Smoak

[Olerud363]

My favorite is how when the Orioles Rays etc are doing well he will always say that its like a fluke and how they will come down to earth but they never do lol. However when the Jays get off to a great starts and he makes statements like this was what the plan was they quickly fall off.

 

Oh My God!!! He was giving live update on the Rays game during the Jays talk. He was acting like it was the most amazing thing that the Jays were going to be within 3.5 games of first.

 

"Yes folks, Your Toronto Blue Jays are 20 minutes away from 3.5 games out of first!"

[LTR]

You guys spend way too much time trashing Wilner, it's like he hurt you really bad as a child or something...

[Olerud363]

You guys spend way too much time trashing Wilner, it's like he hurt you really bad as a child or something...

 

Just a little comedy relief... don't take it too seriously. Are you related to Wilner?? On the positive side Wilner does a great job providing for his family. Many of us don't have the temperment to say what we are told to say and hold a full time job.

 

Me: No that drug does not cure cancer... it does not and we cannot claim it does.

 

Them: Well, thanks for your honest opinion.

 

Me: What do you mean my access card is not valid... I work here???

[Angrioter]

[LTR]

Commenting on the fact that I can rarely go through a page of posts without reading some Wilner hate doesn't make me related to Wilner.

 

I'm also fairly certain most of you have called in at one point and made to look stupid, despite your knowledge of baseball being far superior.

[z3r0s]

You looking to replace your sig with something a little more personal Ang?

[Olerud363]

You guys spend way too much time trashing Wilner, it's like he hurt you really bad as a child or something...

 

I like Mike because he gives every caller the same condescending tone... no matter if they are stupid or smart...

 

Stupid caller - ... and I would of drafted Mike Trout...

 

Mike (justifiably smug) - well I would of too... knowing what I know now... but it doesn't work like that... it just doesn't work like that...

 

Smart caller - ... I am kind of worried about Kevin Pillar, his defence has been great but can a contending team run out a .260 on base percentage guy every day...

 

Mike (un-justifiably smug) - we used to have a guy around here Devon White... his on base percentage wasn't that good either...

[dineke]

Commenting on the fact that I can rarely go through a page of posts without reading some Wilner hate doesn't make me related to Wilner.

 

I'm also fairly certain most of you have called in at one point and made to look stupid, despite your knowledge of baseball being far superior.

 

 

Well then why did you go to a thread with "Mike Wilner" in the title. You just wanted to come here to whine didn't you?

[reedjohnsonfan]

It's not meant to be an unbiased talk show, his job is to promote and defend the Jays to get viewers. Ever since his little run in with Cito he's been like this.

[tercet]

It's not meant to be an unbiased talk show, his job is to promote and defend the Jays to get viewers. Ever since his little run in with Cito he's been like this.

 

lol so true it isn't even funny

 

He would bash Cito every other day for a few years, then got suspended and hasn't really sad a bad word since.

[Brownie19]

Horrible caller, and horrible Wilner. There's absolutely no certainty of any improvement over those 15 days. The reality is, they don't know what the problem is, so you don't know if simple rest, let alone only 15 days of simple rest, will allow any meaningful healing to occur. So rather than put him on the DL and wait, missing at least a couple weeks, not knowing if those couple of weeks will turn in to more time, teams will often default to just letting the guy play through it, as long as he's giving production higher than what could be expected by his replacement, while also limiting his duties so that the healing may eventually occur, even while he's playing. So, they shoot him up with cortisone and put him out there, until the season is over, until it heals itself, or until tests reveal something structurally wrong. And address the issue more thoroughly during the offseason if surgery isn't required beforehand. This happens all the time.

 

Wilner did a bad job of explaining it, but the great majority of talk show callers and listeners wouldn't comprehend it, regardless. They'd just keep repeating their initial point (as this one did).

 

My thoughts exactly. Is the caller too stupid to realise there's no guarantee 15 days of rest will permanently cure Bautista's shoulder? Can't fix stupid.

[LTR]

Well then why did you go to a thread with "Mike Wilner" in the title. You just wanted to come here to whine didn't you?

 

I can't stand Wilner, but people waste a lot of time and energy trashing him, to what end I don't know... don't you think?

[Olerud363]

That didn't happen (no company would be that dumb) ... and if it did, it would be criminal on their part (responsible parties would be in jail, and you'd be a rich man as a result of the wrongful termination).

 

There are huge problems in reproducibility of scientific results... it is particularly problematic in cancer research... mostly at the preclinical and research stage... even at the clinical trial stage people do everything possible to present results in the most "positive" light.

 

The selection process (who will get promotions) in biotech companies is biased to those who have a "positive" attitude. It's difficult to bring up a "wrongful termination" suit if one is proven right several years later...

 

http://www.nature.com/nrclinonc/journal/v10/n12/full/nrclinonc.2013.171.html

[Olerud363]

Hey... question?? Is Moogie still posting on the board and if so under what name??

[RealAccountant]

I used to go out of my way to listen to post fame shows. Now I won't listen even.if I am driving

[L54]

I used to go out of my way to listen to post fame shows. Now I won't listen even.if I am driving

 

It appears you're driving right now. Don't post and drive!

[KingKat]

Commenting on the fact that I can rarely go through a page of posts without reading some Wilner hate doesn't make me related to Wilner.

 

I'm also fairly certain most of you have called in at one point and made to look stupid, despite your knowledge of baseball being far superior.

 

Well I for one have never had a problem with Wilner when I called him (which admiteddly was a really long time ago since I haven't listened him in years). I even won his trivia contest back when they still had those. That being said even though I've never had a bad experience personally, he's still an insufferable windbag and I feel like we really don't hate on him nearly as much as he deserves to be hated on. He's basically Keith Law with half the smarts and twice the arrogance.

[LTR]

Well I for one have never had a problem with Wilner when I called him (which admiteddly was a really long time ago since I haven't listened him in years). I even won his trivia contest back when they still had those. That being said even though I've never had a bad experience personally, he's still an insufferable windbag and I feel like we really don't hate on him nearly as much as he deserves to be hated on. He's basically Keith Law with half the smarts and twice the arrogance.

 

I subscribe to the opposite approach - an "unsufferable windbag" as you so eloquently labelled him does not deserve any of my time and energy, in fact I've already wasted enough of it in this thread.

[Praxis]

The only person I make a conscious effort not to listen to on the radio is Brian Hayes on TSN 1050, as he is a fully paid up member of the new castrati. Seriously, my sister-in-law's female spaded dog has more balls.

 

Other than that I accept Sportsnet for what it is, the Blue Jays equivalent of the NFL Network with corporate shill's galore. Wilner is just a small cog in that machine.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Praxis

[KingKat]

I subscribe to the opposite approach - an "unsufferable windbag" as you so eloquently labelled him does not deserve any of my time and energy, in fact I've already wasted enough of it in this thread.

 

I have mixed feelings. I don't listen to his show anymore but I feel that as long as Sportsnet is giving him a platform than someone should be calling him out on his s***. That someone just isn't going to be me.

[GD]

Hey... question?? Is Moogie still posting on the board and if so under what name??

 

Take a guess

[GD]

It appears you're driving right now. Don't post!

 

fixed

[S33n]

It's not meant to be an unbiased talk show, his job is to promote and defend the Jays to get viewers. Ever since his little run in with Cito he's been like this.

 

He blocked me on twitter for replying to one of his tweets with a variation of this^.

[LTR]

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[Olerud363]

Your response has nothing to do with anything in your original post. You presented a situation where a company was going to claim (i.e., publicly state) that their drug cured cancer. They simply couldn't do this ... nor would they, as a company, announce this, until it was absolutely certain it did ... and even then they would never, ever say it in such terms (it would be far more nebulous, and gray, in terms of having positive effects in the treatment of cancer, or the prevention of it). And, yes, if they did not have clinical, repeatable proof that something had a positive effect, like that, and they fired you for refusing to stick by that claim, then it would of course be a wrongful termination claim. You wouldn't need to be proven right several years later ... either they had verified "proof" at the time, and or they didn't, and that would be the only meaningful topic, besides you otherwise being a capable employee (and not being s***-canned for other justifiable reasons).

 

You are right... this did not literally happen... they did not literally claim they had a product that 'cured' cancer... My post was just a little comedy routine with a bit of truth. I work in biomed and have seen a bit of corruption here and there. Some of it just stupidity.

 

However perhaps my feeble "engineer" mind does not contemplate the greater plans of the marketers and MBAs.

 

I bow before Moogie!

[Orgfiller]

fixed

 

Should've just left the bottom part.

[Olerud363]

Anyone catch Mike last night?? We are only 3 back. Did Mike give live updates on the Rays game??

 

I see an opportunity for Mike to practice play by play. I propose that while this insane pennant race is going on, Mike should stop taking calls and give us live play by play of the Rays games, as he watches it on MLBTV or whatever Rogers offers.

 

If we happen to get 7 back or more Mike can go back to regular Jays talk.

 

If we get over .500 or we get 2 back we may want to consider sending Mike Wilner on the road to follow the Rays live. That way he can do live play by play and keep us very up to date on the pennant race.