Saunders to return mid-April!

[Spanky__99]

wasn't it you that got the email from him?

 

ECJF. Multiple times.

[Chappy]

yeah.. they don't want his injury impacting ticket sales so they make up this BS.

 

People were going to buy tickets to see Saunders play? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Jays fans have no idea who he is other than the fact that he is Canadian.

[Boxcar]

@ShiDavidi: Michael Saunders should rejoin #BlueJays by mid-April instead of around all-star break after surgery removes torn meniscus

 

I was wondering this. VMart had the same issue and he should be back soon after the season starts.

[Ambassador Ch0n]

Wade can't play everyday anymore though. He had a resting program the last couple of years in Miami. He would sit out every 3rd game depending on the matchup.

 

Dude said he had it removed in college. Wade's, what, 15 years out from that time? Come on.

[Nafro]

So the problem with cartilage is that we have yet to find any type of synthetic bio-material that replicates its properties. It has the ability to change how porous its membrane is depending on whether its being loaded on or not. When you put weight on it, it keeps synovial fluid in. When the load is taken off it, it allows synovial fluid to move out of the cartilage and lubricate the joint as it moves.

 

Long story short, menisectomy's are what was almost always done in the past,and still the most common,because it is very difficult to repair cartilage. There is nothing that works like the original. You can get away without it, however, long term its like driving a car without a proper shock absorber, eventually other parts (knee ligaments, hip joint, articular surface of joint injured) break down.

 

Six weeks should be the recovery. I'm not a doctor, but I do have a BioEng degree from Guelph. I actually did my 41x design project developing a machine that shears cartilage plugs. The point is to read the shear forces exerted in the cartilage to help get more information for creating synthetic cartilage. Lol, unfortunately mother nature and evolution seems to have the monopoly on cartilage. You never know though what will be developed in the future.

[ElNik2013]

I wonder how much $ AA slipped the surgeon to remove, instead of repair, Saunders's meniscus.

[Chappy]

I wonder how much $ AA slipped the surgeon to remove, instead of repair, Saunders's meniscus.

 

Not money, souvlaki.

[ElNik2013]

Not money, souvlaki.

 

 

True, Greece is broke and souvlaki is all they got left.

[Angrioter]

How many games he will miss?

[gbill2004]

How many games he will miss?

5-10 at most.

[Angrioter]

5-10 at most.

 

but he will miss the spring training, he will need to see some action in the minors.

[gbill2004]

but he will miss the spring training, he will need to see some action in the minors.

I know. I factored that in.

[gbill2004]

Such good news, if true. Don't really understand how having the meniscus removed will affect his play though...

Read the links I provided earlier in this thread. It's all there.

[JaysFan4Ever]

Wow! 60% That's probably going to require more surgery/a replacement in the future. I wonder how he'll be able to play and his range after this. 4-6 weeks is normal after a tear, I had a couple of tears repaired in the winter years ago and was able to run after about 4 weeks (more like jogging since I had a back injury too) so maybe 6 weeks but still that's a huge chunk to miss. I Think they still should play it as he won't be back for a longer period of time so grab someone who can hold the fort or be as good.

 

That's just a lot to have removed. I'm not a doctor. I'm sure their doctors know what they're talking about and I hope there isn't spin on this to be better news than it is but I'd still wouldn't bet on a quick return and him being the guy with the same speed and range as he used to. I could be wrong. I hope so but that's a large amount to be missing.

[gbill2004]

AA said he'll begin running again in 2 weeks. The 4-6 weeks factors in the spring training time he's missing.

[intentional wok]

So the problem with cartilage is that we have yet to find any type of synthetic bio-material that replicates its properties. It has the ability to change how porous its membrane is depending on whether its being loaded on or not. When you put weight on it, it keeps synovial fluid in. When the load is taken off it, it allows synovial fluid to move out of the cartilage and lubricate the joint as it moves.

 

Long story short, menisectomy's are what was almost always done in the past,and still the most common,because it is very difficult to repair cartilage. There is nothing that works like the original. You can get away without it, however, long term its like driving a car without a proper shock absorber, eventually other parts (knee ligaments, hip joint, articular surface of joint injured) break down.

 

Six weeks should be the recovery. I'm not a doctor, but I do have a BioEng degree from Guelph. I actually did my 41x design project developing a machine that shears cartilage plugs. The point is to read the shear forces exerted in the cartilage to help get more information for creating synthetic cartilage. Lol, unfortunately mother nature and evolution seems to have the monopoly on cartilage. You never know though what will be developed in the future.

 

Awesome. Thanks for the insight.

[flafson]

I was happy to hear about the faster recovery but i'm even more sad to realize it could be devastating for his quality of life long term.

[Zaun of the Dead]

pillar is so bummed

[glory]

Yeah, sucks about his life post-baseball, but the guy has another year of arbitration left before hitting free agency. He's going to want to get as much bank as possible before his body gives out on him. Tough spot.

[Candy Maldonado]

pillar is so bummed

 

[Hipfan]

I was happy to hear about the faster recovery but i'm even more sad to realize it could be devastating for his quality of life long term.

 

Yep, arthritis in his future. I tore 50% of my cartilage. Doc said I could get a gel injection to help with stiffness and pain, but the cartilage would at least still be there, or I could remove it, which would get rid of the immediate pain, but lead to arthritis. As I'm not a professional athlete and didn't need to have a quick recovery, I opted not to have surgery. Now every time I hear of an athlete getting this surgery, all I think about is how much that's going to suck for them in 10 years.

[bendera3]

We really need Lind's Mom to post here.

 

I'm surprised no one has created the SN AdamLindsmom to post on injury related threads.

[TwistedLogic]

As nice as it is to know that he'll be on the roster sooner, it's impossible not to think about how this will negatively impact his body in the future, not only because that seems to be the norm for anyone who opts for this surgery, but because Saunders has a ton of injury-related trouble as it is. For a guy like Saunders, who doesn't seem to have the greatest conditioning or durability as it is, is there any chance that he'll begin to experience the major discomforts from this surgery sooner or more significantly than an average athlete?

[Jimcanuck]

No meniscus and RC outfield = pain and shortened career

 

Saunders must be thinking of other clubs with grass field

[Virgil_Hiltz]

"The dramatic change in prognosis came after team orthopaedic surgeon Dr. Steven Mirabello found that the tear Saunders suffered in a freak accident Wednesday was so significant, it could not be repaired.

 

 

and in totally unrelated news late last night in a dark corner of a parking lot AA was seen slipping Dr Steve Mirabello a stuffed envelope.

[Jimcanuck]

also, likely comes back as DH for the first few weeks to a month?

[RealAccountant]

also, likely comes back as DH for the first few weeks to a month?

 

I think Smoak is going to have a big breakout year, I hope that he gets the leeway to try and do so.

 

I dont think this is bad for Saunders as people make it out to be. It will be good to have him out there ASAP. Since they had to remove it anyway, I don't see how anyone can complain. I am sure if it was repairable, they would have only repaired it.

[ElNik2013]

The real concern here should be whether Jays medical staff took out the ACL instead of the meniscus. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[RealAccountant]

The real concern here should be whether Jays medical staff took out the ACL instead of the meniscus. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

Maybe they took out his heart.

[intentional wok]

I think Smoak is going to have a big breakout year, I hope that he gets the leeway to try and do so.

 

Is there a specific reason you think this?