TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I actually want this to be legit all Royals vs. all Cardinals to change this joke of a system. Either the game doesn't matter or it does. If it does, don't let stupid fans have a say. yep every team should be telling their fans to vote for Royals.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Do fans get to vote the All-Star STARTERS, or does the manager get to decide that? You're talking the SP right, yes, the managers decide all the pitching and reserves.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 xFIP doesn't properly deal with extreme FB pitchers. Check SIERA. What do you think about the Jays starting pitching. Will they improve over the course of the year
GD Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 According to xFIP, Osuna's been one of our worst relievers.... 3.66 is still very good and 3.04 SIERA.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Wade Davis isn't going to make the All-Star team because of 8 Royals getting voted in. He and Sal Perez are the only ones who deserve it. Alex Gordon?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Donaldson has been worth double the WAR of Mike Moustakas but trails him by over a million votes. WTF?!?!?!
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Donaldson has been worth double the WAR of Mike Moustakas but trails him by over a million votes. WTF?!?!?! just accept the inevitability.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 just accept the inevitability. No I just voted Donaldson 35 times
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 No I just voted Donaldson 35 times I gave up when Infante overtook Altuve. You can't stop the train now.. In fact..I think I'm going to hop on to it. All we need now is to vote Rios to overtake Trout. Join usss
LTR Verified Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 3.66 is still very good and 3.04 SIERA. I'm just reporting it as I see it, nothing more. According to xFIP most of our regular relievers have been better.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 No I just voted Donaldson 35 times I never understood why you're allowed to vote more than once. So stupid......so, so stupid.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 and why 35 times? such a wierd arbitrary number. Why not 10? 100? 1?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I never understood why you're allowed to vote more than once. So stupid......so, so stupid. I know I guess because they want the votes to be in the millions instead of the humdreds of thousands. More exciting somehow. Of course, the results (who wins) would be the same and time saved if you could only vote once per day.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 ICYMI: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/cherry-moves-josh-donaldson-campaign-to-twitter/ http://assets1.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Cherry-1040x572.jpg
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 and why 35 times? such a wierd arbitrary number. Why not 10? 100? 1? Because you get a ballot every time you go to the ballpark and nobody prevents you from voting 35 times in person (roughly the average amount of home games between when the voting begins and when it closes).
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I know I guess because they want the votes to be in the millions instead of the humdreds of thousands. More exciting somehow. Of course, the results (who wins) would be the same and time saved if you could only vote once per day. No - once per day is also stupid. You get 1 vote. That's it. I acknowledge they have no way of tracking votes by alternative sources and some nerd is going to find a loop hole - but why on earth would you set it up to allow/promote more than 1 vote per person? I say the general public is too stupid to make proper assessments and educated votes for the best players in MLB......and yes, I feel the same way about local, provincial and federal elections.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Here's a piece about tonight's Mets starter Matt Harvey. Unlike with Syndergaard, there is no guarantee what we will get with him tonight, espeically post TJ surgery: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/105064/whats-matt-harvey-going-through-nothing-too-unusual
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Because you get a ballot every time you go to the ballpark and nobody prevents you from voting 35 times in person (roughly the average amount of home games between when the voting begins and when it closes). You know what prevents someone from voting 35 times in person? when that person has a life and couldn't be bothered voting once, let alone 35 times. Or how about a conscious that tells them they already voted once and stuffing the ballot box is wrong?
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 You know what prevents someone from voting 35 times in person? when that person has a life and couldn't be bothered voting once, let alone 35 times. Or how about a conscious that tells them they already voted once and stuffing the ballot box is wrong? And also who cares
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 You know what prevents someone from voting 35 times in person? when that person has a life and couldn't be bothered voting once, let alone 35 times. Or how about a conscious that tells them they already voted once and stuffing the ballot box is wrong? Not sure why you're arguing with me. Just explaining the rationale for the 35. It's not an arbitrary number. The reason I stated is how they came up with it and really the 35 isn't the issue at all. All fan bases have the same limit. The issue is that the Royals fans are voting en masse for their entire team. That would be the same issue whether the limit was 1, 10, 35 or 100. You are allowed the same amount of votes to undo the Royals mess as the Royals fans had when they created it (which assumes that online votes are even counted at this point, they used to only count those at the end but with modern technology, there's no reason the online votes couldn't be counted in real time and this ballot stuffing would seem a lot harder to pull off without the use of online votes).
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Not sure why you're arguing with me. Just explaining the rationale for the 35. It's not an arbitrary number. The reason I stated is how they came up with it and really the 35 isn't the issue at all. All fan bases have the same limit. The issue is that the Royals fans are voting en masse for their entire team. That would be the same issue whether the limit was 1, 10, 35 or 100. You are allowed the same amount of votes to undo the Royals mess as the Royals fans had when they created it (which assumes that online votes are even counted at this point, they used to only count those at the end but with modern technology, there's no reason the online votes couldn't be counted in real time and this ballot stuffing would seem a lot harder to pull off without the use of online votes). Not arguing with you - arguing with the stupidity of how they came up with a max of 35 votes. That is royally retarded. Alas - lets move on. The vast majority of fans don't have the knowledge to make educated votes - same thing happens in elections.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 As if the Red Sox weren't enough of a train wreck, Pedroia is out with a knee inury and it may not be good. And BTW, it regards the takeout slide the Jays did over the weekend:
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 #VoteRoyalsAndCardinals It's the only way the system will be fixed.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Here's a piece about tonight's Mets starter Matt Harvey. Unlike with Syndergaard, there is no guarantee what we will get with him tonight, espeically post TJ surgery: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/105064/whats-matt-harvey-going-through-nothing-too-unusual Will you f*** OFF!!
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Peddy bashes media https://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/clubhouse_insider/2015/06/dustin_pedroia_blasts_media_after_red_sox_team_meeting I believe this is the 2nd or 3rd team meeting they've had this year. The last one only involved select few players.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 No. Buh Alex Gordon = Bautista WAR
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Stephen Amell wants YOU to vote for Josh Donaldson. I endorse this endorsement. 822K views · 32K reactions | Facebook!! I want to get Josh Donaldson... WWW.FACEBOOK.COM Facebook!! I want to get Josh Donaldson - third basemen for the Toronto Blue Jays elected to the MLB All Star Game. Here's the link --...
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Buh Alex Gordon = Bautista WAR Alex Gordon falls into the Ben Zobrist zone for me. Guys I look at and go "hrm, I wouldn't have thought they'd be the valuable". I guess it's the "all around - good at everything, great a nothing" syndrome that makes me overlook them. It's amazing this guy who was considered a "bust" early in his career could end up approaching 55-60 career WAR if he can sustain his current pace for 3-4 more years (before significant decline).
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