Laika Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Commenter caught it. Author didn't even address it though. It's also just a stupid article. "Did my team reset the market?" is suck an apologetic way to look at a bad trade. It's funny
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 It's also just a stupid article. "Did my team reset the market?" is suck an apologetic way to look at a bad trade. It's funny Exactly No one else was likely paying that much for Kimbrel, and the Kimbrel deal won't make anyone pay more for Chapman than they would have previously
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 It's also just a stupid article. "Did my team reset the market?" is suck an apologetic way to look at a bad trade. It's funny They've become almost unreadable outside of a few authors. Tony Blengino embarrasses them on a weekly basis with his stupid 'tru ERA'.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I like Bannister. A lot. http://giant.gfycat.com/WhirlwindContentArieltoucan.gif
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 LOL, that's pretty awkward
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 The A's are taking calls on Jesse Chavez. Projected 4.7 mil salary, 3.86 ERA, 2.2 WAR. Useful as a long reliever or starter. I'd certainly give up a B prospect to acquire him. He'd be an ideal guy to stick in the bullpen as insurance and probably get 20 starts.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 They've become almost unreadable outside of a few authors. Tony Blengino embarrasses them on a weekly basis with his stupid 'tru ERA'. It seems that they push those guys to put out so much content without much regard to the quality of it. I've basically relegated my reading to the daily chat and the odd Rotographs headline I find appealing.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 The A's are taking calls on Jesse Chavez. Projected 4.7 mil salary, 3.86 ERA, 2.2 WAR. Useful as a long reliever or starter. I'd certainly give up a B prospect to acquire him. He'd be an ideal guy to stick in the bullpen as insurance and probably get 20 starts. Stick in bullpen? He'd be #2 behind Stroman.
Pulk_Pull Verified Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Augusto Cárdenas @ACardenas13 Francisco Rodríguez was traded to Detroit Tigers. IF Javier Betancourt is headed to Milwaukee Brewers in this transaction
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Augusto Cárdenas @ACardenas13 Francisco Rodríguez was traded to Detroit Tigers. IF Javier Betancourt is headed to Milwaukee Brewers in this transaction Solid move for both teams really. Brewers get some salary relief and the Tigers get their closer for a low cost.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Stick in bullpen? He'd be #2 behind Stroman. Well we'll see how the rest of the offseason pans out. I don't mind him in the rotation to start the season, but he's awfully valuable as an insurance policy so we don't have to resort to guys like Scott Copeland again. If he pitches well, he'll get his starts like Estrada did last year. The labels don't mean anything to me.
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Augusto Cárdenas @ACardenas13 Francisco Rodríguez was traded to Detroit Tigers. IF Javier Betancourt is headed to Milwaukee Brewers in this transaction Surprised Milwaukee jumped on this so early in the offseason. Betancourt looks like a non-prospect, and K-Rod was bordering on elite last year.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Surprised Milwaukee jumped on this so early in the offseason. Betancourt looks like a non-prospect, and K-Rod was bordering on elite last year. Yeah. They could have done a lot better I would have thought.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Yeah. They could have done a lot better I would have thought. Is 7.5 million (with buyout) for a 1 WAR reliever really that much of a bargain? The PTBNL might be something too.
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Is 7.5 million (with buyout) for a 1 WAR reliever really that much of a bargain? The PTBNL might be something too. They'll probably keep him for both years and make it 2/13.5. He's been sneaky good. 5 of the last 6 years he's had an ERA under 3.05 and xFIP under 3.17. I think he's worth more than nothing, which is basically what they got.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 They'll probably keep him for both years and make it 2/13.5. He's been sneaky good. 5 of the last 6 years he's had an ERA under 3.05 and xFIP under 3.17. I think he's worth more than nothing, which is basically what they got. I suppose. I don't think they were ever going to get an impact player for him though. The PTBNL could change things for me.
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I suppose. I don't think they were ever going to get an impact player for him though. The PTBNL could change things for me. Definitely not an impact player, but I would have expected someone that looked at least a little bit interesting.
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 The reliever market continues to be the most bewildering market in baseball. The Red Sox decide they have to unload the farm for a 13M closer while DET gets one who is not as good but seemingly just as effective at closing games for basically nothing. Yup. Assuming Boston could have landed K-Rod for Asuaje, would you rather have: 1. Kimbrel 2. K-Rod, Margot, Guerra, Allen, ~$15M cash over the next two years
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Krod traded for nothing. Would not have minded that
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Krod traded for nothing. Would not have minded that agree
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Didn't K-Rod have a domestic dispute recently? Could of scared a lot of teams off especially in the current climate.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Jayson Stark @jaysonst 5m5 minutes ago Had one exec tell me this week he thinks Yankees "will move" Miller--for a big, Kimbrel-like package built around big-league ready starters What kind of world is this? Since when can you sign a free agent reliever to a huge contract and then turn around and trade them for a big package of MLB ready starters? Either the twitter media thinks we are stupid, or baseball is actually stupid.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Jayson Stark @jaysonst 5m5 minutes ago Had one exec tell me this week he thinks Yankees "will move" Miller--for a big, Kimbrel-like package built around big-league ready starters What kind of world is this? Since when can you sign a free agent reliever to a huge contract and then turn around and trade them for a big package of MLB ready starters? Either the twitter media thinks we are stupid, or baseball is actually stupid. History suggests the latter.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Jayson Stark @jaysonst 5m5 minutes ago Had one exec tell me this week he thinks Yankees "will move" Miller--for a big, Kimbrel-like package built around big-league ready starters What kind of world is this? Since when can you sign a free agent reliever to a huge contract and then turn around and trade them for a big package of MLB ready starters? Either the twitter media thinks we are stupid, or baseball is actually stupid. Or that baseball exec is stupid.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 O'Day asking for deal in $28-36M range http://www.rotoworld.com/images/headshots/MLB/5167.jpg FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that Darren O'Day is asking for a four-year deal in the range of $28-36 million. It's hard to say he won't get it, as O'Day is at or near the top of the class of free agent relievers. The 33-year-old sidearmer owns a 1.92 ERA over the past four seasons. With several contenders
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Seems like if you sign a big money FA and he performs well in the first year he will still have good trade value even if there is a lot of money left. Miller, Robertson both look to have good value on the trade market. Heck, I bet the Jays could still get value back for Russ Martin if they decided to trade him even with them paying him only 7 Million last year.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 History suggests the latter. Yeah, we don't even have to look that far. *Cough* Marlins trade.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I can't believe teams will be willing to sign a non closer pen piece to 4 years at 9 a year
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Did anyone mention Rich Hill yet? Great signing by the A's for a mere one year and 6 million.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Did anyone mention Rich Hill yet? Great signing by the A's for a mere one year and 6 million. The A's will be the A's.
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