Blue Jays asked on Papelbon

[Angrioter]

Badenhop and Axford please, and start the ST.

[TwistedLogic]

Pap Smear has a vesting option at 13M for 55 "games finished" in 2015, or 100 in 2014+2015.

 

He had 52 last year and his career low is 49.

 

So basically, if he doesn't get hurt or lose the closer role, the option is very likely to vest.

This is under the assumption that he doesn't just demand that the option become guaranteed in exchange for waving his no-trade clause, which seems to be a very likely scenario.

[G-Snarls]

Badenhop and Axford please, and start the ST.

 

Yeah just sign free agents. Why trade assets for relievers. especially overpaid ones.

[JFD]

Papelbon? a power pitcher that's losing his power.. ugh. no thanks.

[glory]

Yeah just sign free agents. Why trade assets for relievers. especially overpaid ones.

 

Yeah, seriously. Papelbon is good, but way overpaid, and not worth giving up assets for a reliever. If he was a 3 win reliever, then sure, but he's not. Use the money on two relievers, and trade Navarro for a 3rd.

[Ehjays]

pass

[JaysAllMighty]

Double pass. He's all about himself, a selfish f***.

[SAAviour]

Papelbon would take over Kevin millar as my most hated blue jay of all time. Please no!

[Dick_Pole]

Every day that the bullpen holes aren't filled and every day that Casey Janssen remains a free agent increases the likelihood that he's coming back. With the glut of RP still available so close to spring training and with his second half problems last year, a 1-year contract at a reasonable price looks like a good solution for both sides.

[RealAccountant]

No problem having Casey back but we need more.

[TwistedLogic]

I don't like Axford and Casey on the same team, but I like Casey more than Axford.

 

Perfect world scenario, they sign K-Rod and Badenhop, bring back Casey, and give Delabar another shot in ST. Realistically, they probably dont wanna afford even two of those first three guys.

[Deadpool]

Every day that the bullpen holes aren't filled and every day that Casey Janssen remains a free agent increases the likelihood that he's coming back. With the glut of RP still available so close to spring training and with his second half problems last year, a 1-year contract at a reasonable price looks like a good solution for both sides.

 

I have no issue bringing Janssen back, as long as it's not as "the closer".

[Deadpool]

I don't really want Janssen back in any capacity unless it's like $2M or under.

 

Do you really see Janssen signing a deal much over $2M at this point?

[TwistedLogic]

I don't really want Janssen back in any capacity unless it's like $2M or under.

 

I really don't see him getting more than 2M. Feel like he would have signed ages ago if someone offered him that.

 

Given how f***ed up and unpredictable the market has been this year though, I could be totally wrong.

[RealAccountant]

Ya I would guess around $5M for one year. He has quite high demands.

 

Why are you so hard on him. Prior to getting sicj jansenn was lights out for two years

[Caper]

Last night I dreamt the Jays signed Shield to something absurdly reasonable like a 3 year deal.

 

I don't know why I'm admitting this now... months after it happened. But I had a dream I was at the winter meetings and had sexual relations with Mike Wilner. I'm not gay and if I was the last person I would want to be with is Mike Wilner.... But it was in my dream. I didn't want to dream it, but it happened.

 

That is all.

[Maahfaace]

I don't know why I'm admitting this now... months after it happened. But I had a dream I was at the winter meetings and had sexual relations with Mike Wilner. I'm gay and if I was the last person, I would want to be with Mike Wilner.... But it was in my dream. I did want to dream it, and want it to happen.

 

That is all.

 

Fixed

[GNick49]

Too much is being made of bullpen. They are unpredictable. A full year ago our bullpen was suppose to be our strength. Which quickly turned into our Achilles heel. Two years ago bullpen was projected to be weak, it was outstanding. Janssen and Delabar had a great year Cecil came out of no where.

[JaysFan4Ever]

I wouldn't mind CJ back at a cheaper price.

 

Maybe AA is waiting for the asking prices to drop as players get desperate for a job before ST, hopes to luck out and land a proven closer in a trade (maybe with more ie 2B or 4th OF), or he just thinks that everything is in place and guys like some he's claimed off waivers, minor league deals, guys like Delabar bounce back to some solid form.

 

Maybe he's trying to find a better starter out there so shuffle a few things around.

 

Then again can't get everything done and like some have mentioned BPs are unpredictable. One year they're great, the next they suck and they're mostly the same players. I don't want to see AA panic and piss away a few prospects, even low level ones, to bring in a couple MR or overpay for some borderline RP.

 

Either the guys still out there have huge demands or BPs just aren't a huge concern with teams right now. We're getting closer to the reporting times to various teams so I'm willing to bet some moves start to happen within a week or two.

 

It would be great if they could bring someone in who's proven but not going to cost a decent prospect, or someone traded for who isn't better than a Delabar or waiver claim who costs both more dollar wise and cost the team a player.

 

Maybe AA is trying to focus on moving Navarro to someone hoping to get some relief help. As long as our starters can give us quality outings and go deep into games and the guys called upon don't explode I'll be happy. I don't care who the name on the back of the jersey is providing they come in and do their job.

[Key22]

Don't worry guys - AA has his balls in the air.

[flafson]

CJ was lights out, but at the same time he's a time bomb waiting to explode...

[Governator]

I wouldn't mind CJ back at a cheaper price.

 

Maybe AA is waiting for the asking prices to drop as players get desperate for a job before ST, hopes to luck out and land a proven closer in a trade (maybe with more ie 2B or 4th OF), or he just thinks that everything is in place and guys like some he's claimed off waivers, minor league deals, guys like Delabar bounce back to some solid form.

 

Maybe he's trying to find a better starter out there so shuffle a few things around.

 

Then again can't get everything done and like some have mentioned BPs are unpredictable. One year they're great, the next they suck and they're mostly the same players. I don't want to see AA panic and piss away a few prospects, even low level ones, to bring in a couple MR or overpay for some borderline RP.

 

Either the guys still out there have huge demands or BPs just aren't a huge concern with teams right now. We're getting closer to the reporting times to various teams so I'm willing to bet some moves start to happen within a week or two.

 

It would be great if they could bring someone in who's proven but not going to cost a decent prospect, or someone traded for who isn't better than a Delabar or waiver claim who costs both more dollar wise and cost the team a player.

 

Maybe AA is trying to focus on moving Navarro to someone hoping to get some relief help. As long as our starters can give us quality outings and go deep into games and the guys called upon don't explode I'll be happy. I don't care who the name on the back of the jersey is providing they come in and do their job.

 

 

Can bullpens suddenly go from bad to great again without changes?

[SAAviour]

@JonHeymanCBS: pen help left: krod, sori, janssen, badenhop, ax, ogando, joba, coke, cotts, morales, beli, perez, gregg, wilson, lindstrom

 

Might even get someone decent on a minor league deal. Heyman forgot about poor old McGowan.

[jays76]

AA is playing hardball and the waiting game with McGowan & Janssen. I have a feeling they both come back on bargain basement contracts.

[Governator]

Nationals To Sign Casey Janssen

 

The Nationals and right-hander Casey Janssen have agreed to a one-year contract with a mutual option that will guarantee him a total of $5MM, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Janssen is represented by ACES.

 

 

 

 

Welp

[intentional wok]

Ya I would guess around $5M for one year. He has quite high demands.

 

Janssen to the Nats for 1year/5mil. Good call.

[RealAccountant]

AA is playing hardball and the waiting game with McGowan & Janssen. I have a feeling they both come back on bargain basement contracts.

 

Hardball fail

[BTS]

AA is playing hardball and the waiting game with McGowan & Janssen. I have a feeling they both come back on bargain basement contracts.

 

No McGowan, for the love of god.

[Angrioter]

No McGowan, for the love of god.

 

McGowan as RP 2014

(7.53 K, 3.35 BB, 1.67 HR)/9, under 40% GB

[NorthOf49]

@JonHeymanCBS: pen help left: krod, sori, janssen, badenhop, ax, ogando, joba, coke, cotts, morales, beli, perez, gregg, wilson, lindstrom

 

Might even get someone decent on a minor league deal. Heyman forgot about poor old McGowan.

Matt Albers is decent too and with his injury they may be able to sign him to a minor league deal.

 

Waiting out the market is probably the right decision since there's not much that separates these relievers.