Blue Jays getting second baseman?

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

ceiling is the best pitcher in the league you could say

[guylaroche5]

Quality programming right there. But in all seriousness, it's a trend many channels are following in order to stay relevant.

 

I understand it from a ratings point of view but it's kind of hilarious when a channel labelled as "History" continues to pump out garbage all under the guise of still being educational. The channel was bad enough when it was just 24/7 Hitler but this wave of reality shows really destroyed any shred of respect it still had.

[admin]

Zobrist would make this lineup amazing. Trade and extend him three years.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

Sure I guess, but then you'd also have to say Daniel Norris' ceiling is Clayton Kershaw.

Exactly

[guylaroche5]

Exactly

 

his point is that thinking isn't realistic.........

[jaysblue]

In my MLB the Show franchise, I simulated the 2016 season and Aaron Sanchez went 11-12 with a 2.56 ERA and 272 K's!!! MunenoriKawasakiMVP loves that!

[Brownie19]

In my MLB the Show franchise, I simulated the 2016 season and Aaron Sanchez went 11-12 with a 2.56 ERA and 272 K's!!! MunenoriKawasakiMVP loves that!

 

Jesus - the 2016 lineup must be awful!!!!

[jays4life19]

Why are people talking baseball in the TV show thread? Weird.

 

Can we start getting bans for people who are partaking in baseball discussion. It's getting ridiculous. I don't come to the BJMB to discuss such silly baseball matters.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

But it's not a realistic thinking that Norris and Sanchez mediocre in the bullpen

[jaysblue]

Floor is Kyle Drabek.

 

Sanchez can most definitely end up as a Kyle Drabek in the rotation. His BB/9 rates in the minors scare me and him pitching 2-3 times through a lineup, don't think his stuff will hold up especially with a low rate of inducing swinging strikes. I'd trade him now while his market value remains relativity decent.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

But he could also end up like a prime Justin Verlander or Adam Wainwright

[Brownie19]

I'll be very interested to see how AA handles Sanchez. In 2011 - Sanchez was his "top" prospect in the organization (despite coming off an a poor statistical year). I heard it from the horses mouth. He loves this kid. Will he fall into the GM man-crush zone where they can't let go of what they thought he'd be (if he doesn't succeed initially)? or will he be able to re-evaluate his development properly and do what's best for the team. It's this type of thing that helps truly define a good GM.

[jaysblue]

Jesus - the 2016 lineup must be awful!!!!

 

Team went 84-78 and missed the postseason by 3 games lol. I signed David Price and Shark during the offseason to huge contracts as well.

 

SS Reyes

CF AJ Pollock

RF Bautista

1B Encarnacion

3B Donaldson

DH Martinez (likely will retire once I enter the offseason)

C Martin

LF Saunders (really sucked lol)

2B Travis (awful rookie year haha)

 

SP David Price

SP Jeff Samardzja

SP Drew Hutchison

SP Aaron Sanchez

SP Marcus Stroman

 

LR Jesse Chavez

LR Tyoshi Wada

MR Adam Ottovino

MR Aaron Loup

SU Brett Cecil

SU Mike Adams

CL Antonio Bastardo

[Chappy]

If you want boobs and blood, Banshee is the show for you.

 

It's all boobs and blood, love it.

[Chappy]

Can we start getting bans for people who are partaking in baseball discussion. It's getting ridiculous. I don't come to the BJMB to discuss such silly baseball matters.

 

It's the same conversation that's been going on for months. TV show thread > Second Baseman thread.

[GreekFatAss]

Would anyone here part with Norris + if it was for Zobrist with a 2-3 year extension attached?

[Orgfiller]

But it's not a realistic thinking that Norris and Sanchez mediocre in the bullpen

 

It's much more realistic to think that every prospect will crash and burn than that they will all reach their full potential.

[BTS]

Would anyone here part with Norris + if it was for Zobrist with a 2-3 year extension attached?

 

yes

[Orgfiller]

I'll be very interested to see how AA handles Sanchez. In 2011 - Sanchez was his "top" prospect in the organization (despite coming off an a poor statistical year). I heard it from the horses mouth. He loves this kid. Will he fall into the GM man-crush zone where they can't let go of what they thought he'd be (if he doesn't succeed initially)? or will he be able to re-evaluate his development properly and do what's best for the team. It's this type of thing that helps truly define a good GM.

Trading away Lawrie gives me more confidence that AA is willing to do what's right for the team even if it takes trading away a player he was high on. Whether the return is fair is a different issue, but personally I don't think we should be as worried about him being attached to certain players.

[Brownie19]

Would anyone here part with Norris + if it was for Zobrist with a 2-3 year extension attached?

 

You'd have to be fairly certain Zobrist is going to age gracefully. To be honest, I'd want him here this coming year and possibly the next - nothing beyond that.

[Deadpool]

It's all boobs and blood, love it.

 

You must have the weirdest porn collection... Also, probably the best porn collection...

 

Would anyone here part with Norris + if it was for Zobrist with a 2-3 year extension attached?

 

Nope, not Norris. Sanchez, probably...

[glory]

AA has traded Syndergaard, Lawrie, d'Arnaud, etc. I'm sure he would trade Sanchez if he felt the return was worthy. Whether he would do it for a one year rental is another story. He seems like a GM who is big on years of control, so I can't see him trading Sanchez for Zobrist (even though it would be a great deal for the Jays).

[Mikeleelop]

Cabrera to TB

[JaysRap]

Some Jays talk from 2 chats: MLB Trade Rumors and Fangraphs.

 

Steve Adams, MLBTR:

 

Comment From Ryan

Will zobrist be traded now or will tampa move him back to rf?

via·about 7 hours ago

Steve Adams

I'd think Zobrist is more available now than he was before. Giants could use him in left and as insurance if Panik regresses too heavily.Jays could use him at second. He'll be a huge commodity if they get serious about moving him. I'd lean toward them trading him if I had to guess.

 

Comment From Fred

How many relievers does Preller need? is he loading up for even bigger deals?

via·about 7 hours ago

Steve Adams

Perhaps, but there's nothing wrong with having a stacked bullpen. He could always add a bunch of cheaper arms and deal Benoit to a team looking for a closer (e.g. Toronto)

 

Comment From torontojeff

inter-divisional trading aside, what would Jays need to pay to land 2 years of Zobrist and a pick if he leaves?

via·about 7 hours ago

Steve Adams

Zobrist is a free agent next winter. This is his final year of control. And he'd still cost them one of their top arms, I'd imagine. Then again, I'd have said no way the Padres could get Myers without dealing one of their top three prospects and they managed to pull that off.

 

Comment From Daveek42

Where do you see Dionner Navarro at the start of the season and what (if any) do you see the Jays getting in return?

via·about 7 hours ago

Steve Adams

He'd be a nice upgrade for the White Sox over Flowers, who shouldn't be a starting catcher on any team. Blue Jays should be able to land one solid, B-level prospect for him. Not a Top 100 style guy but someone who could slot into their Top 10 prospects or so. Could also just flip him to a team with a need at catcher for one year of a good but expensive reliever to put at the back of their bullpen.

 

Comment From Ari Krigel

Do you expect the Royals to trade Holland (or Davis/Herrera)? Holland is great, but at $9.5mm, could the Royals find a team with a great prospect (or prospects) and the ability to take on the salary?

via·about 6 hours ago

Steve Adams

I don't expect them to, but I think they should. If the Blue Jays want to add a closer, Holland is the best target they could go after, and he'd be a massive upgrade at the back of that 'pen. And Toronto has a nice group of pitching prospects.

via·about 6 hours ago

Steve Adams

Jays could also offer to take some of Infante's salary to lessen the prospect return they'd need to give.

 

Dan Szymborski, Fangraphs Chat

 

Comment From Mike

Where does Asdrubal Cabrera end up?

12:42

Dan Szymborski: If he doesn’t end up in Toronto, Jays fans should be annoyed.

Dan Szymborski: (Unless of course, the Blue Jays come up with someone better)

 

Comment From The Dude

Should Jays fans really be annoyed if they don’t sign Cabrera? It’s not like he’s very good.

1:10

Dan Szymborski: He can be a solidly average 2B overall. That’s a massive upgrade for them.

 

Comment From Dustin

Buster Olney, in a blog post a few weeks ago, mentioned that the Orioles should really shoot for the stars with Toronto with regards to compensation for Dan Duquette… And he mentioned Strohman, among some other possibilities. Obviously this is not the precedent that has been set, but couldn’t it be argued that a really great GM/President (which it appears clear that Toronto is valuing Duquette as) would be FAR more valuable than any player, making this a realistic thing for Baltimore to look for? I know this sounds crazy. BUT WHAT IF IT’S BRILLIANT.

1:23

Dan Szymborski: I would not trade Stroman for Duquette. If Blue Jays actually offered this, I’d be driving over to Baltimore to help DD pack his bags myself.

[GD]

Holland + Infante for a B-level prospect would be great. Infante is still good. BABIP was down and so was HR/FB%. SwStr% was improved. Contact was up. 7.5, 7.5, 8 for Infante is pretty reasonable when Stephen Drew could make $8M this year.

[JaysRap]

Holland + Infante for a B-level prospect would be great. Infante is still good. BABIP was down and so was HR/FB%. SwStr% was improved. Contact was up. 7.5, 7.5, 8 for Infante is pretty reasonable when Stephen Drew could make $8M this year.

 

Could send them Izturis as well to help with salary numbers.

[L54]

What kind of money would Zobrist expect to get in FA/what would it take to extend him? 3/45?

[admin]

What kind of money would Zobrist expect to get in FA/what would it take to extend him? 3/45?

 

My guess is somewhere around there. But I have no idea.

[jaysblue]

My 2017 lineup in MLB the Show!

 

SS Reyes

2B Zobrist

RF Bautista

1B Encarnacion

3B Donaldson

LF Gordon

C Martin

DH Smith

CF Pollock

[Brownie19]

Navarro for Daniel Webb?

 

Navarro for Zachary Putnam?