TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 http://i.gyazo.com/4dc3d055fc796192b3d4613774b4ea2b.png The Bisons have probably made more acquisitions this off-season than any other team in baseball.
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 From first glance seems like a pretty good claim.
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Anyone have an idea on his velocity, maybe he can be converted into a reliever? Stuff seems to be there.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) The Blue Jays seem to be making a lot of solid waiver claims and minor league signings this offseason. Added guys like Chris Colabello, Caleb Gindl, Ezequil Carrera, this guy, Wilton Lopez, Kalish, Barton, Albers as stashable depth. Edited December 19, 2014 by Laika
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 The Blue Jays seem to be making a lot of solid waiver claims and minor league signings this offseason. Added guys like Chris Colabello, Caleb Gindl, Ezequil Carrera, this guy, Jose Dominguez, Wilton Lopez, Kalish, Barton, Albers as stashable depth. It seems that we are learning there is value to 0 WAR players by virtue of not being negative value.
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 The Blue Jays seem to be making a lot of solid waiver claims and minor league signings this offseason. Added guys like Chris Colabello, Caleb Gindl, Ezequil Carrera, this guy, Jose Dominguez, Wilton Lopez, Kalish, Barton, Albers as stashable depth. Who is Jose Dominguez? Assuming this is a different guy than the Dodgers traded to Tampa.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Who is Jose Dominguez? Assuming this is a different guy than the Dodgers traded to Tampa. Apparently he's not who I thought he was. Forget him. The guy they actually signed is a no-info 1996 Mexican named Jose Francisco Dominguez
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 He has options left. Solid depth move. Jays need arms to replace Nolin and Graveman.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 BA in 2013. I believe he's a little teapot or tetera Ranked San Diego Padres #18 prospect after the 2013 season Premium Oramas pitched for Double-A San Antonio's Texas League champions in both 2011 and 2013, sandwiching those playoff runs around Tommy John surgery in 2012. He announced his return to full health by making 12 starts for the Missions in 2013 and going 3-2, 3.07 with a 4.0 SO/BB ratio, then dealing 12 scoreless innings in the playoffs. The Padres non-tendered Oramas following the 2012 season to make room for other players on the 40-man roster, though they subsequently re-signed him to a minor league deal for 2013. The reason San Diego has made such a great effort to retain Oramas is because he projects to have three major league pitches with a feel to deploy them for maximum impact. Short and stout, he locates an 89-92 mph fastball all over the strike zone with a fearless demeanor, hiding the ball until the last instant and varying his arm angle. His curveball features tight rotation and average power, while he doesn't hesitate to lean on his fading changeup when he has feel for it. Oramas returned to the familiar surroundings of the Mexican Pacific League in October 2013 as he prepares to audition for the big league club. Making or not making the rotation might have more to do with inventory than ability, seeing as Oramas will be competing for innings with veterans such as Andrew Cashner, Josh Johnson, Ian Kennedy, Cory Luebke, Tyson Ross and a host of prospect hopefuls.
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 So maybe he can dial it up to 92-94 from the pen?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 So maybe he can dial it up to 92-94 from the pen? I'd probably prefer him in the AAA rotation.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 BA in 2013. I believe he's a little teapot or tetera Ranked San Diego Padres #18 prospect after the 2013 season Premium Oramas pitched for Double-A San Antonio's Texas League champions in both 2011 and 2013, sandwiching those playoff runs around Tommy John surgery in 2012. He announced his return to full health by making 12 starts for the Missions in 2013 and going 3-2, 3.07 with a 4.0 SO/BB ratio, then dealing 12 scoreless innings in the playoffs. The Padres non-tendered Oramas following the 2012 season to make room for other players on the 40-man roster, though they subsequently re-signed him to a minor league deal for 2013. The reason San Diego has made such a great effort to retain Oramas is because he projects to have three major league pitches with a feel to deploy them for maximum impact. Short and stout, he locates an 89-92 mph fastball all over the strike zone with a fearless demeanor, hiding the ball until the last instant and varying his arm angle. His curveball features tight rotation and average power, while he doesn't hesitate to lean on his fading changeup when he has feel for it. Oramas returned to the familiar surroundings of the Mexican Pacific League in October 2013 as he prepares to audition for the big league club. Making or not making the rotation might have more to do with inventory than ability, seeing as Oramas will be competing for innings with veterans such as Andrew Cashner, Josh Johnson, Ian Kennedy, Cory Luebke, Tyson Ross and a host of prospect hopefuls. I really like this scouting report
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I really like this scouting report Yeah me too. Between the TJ and the realtive shortness, you have two plausible reasons why this guy could be a diamond in the rough.
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Nice, I think we can all agree this was a very good depth signing.
wamco Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I think you are selling him short. Only question is 1st ballot HOF or 2nd
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 My bias and hatred took over at short and fat
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 This guy reminds me of JoJo Reyes...actually I'm pretty sure he is the reincarnation of him
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Juan Pablo Oramas alias Dennys Reyes http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Pittsburgh+Pirates+v+St+Louis+Cardinals+Ri68B2Ejfipm.jpg
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Checking out his Pacifico Liga team and the familiar name that stands out is Alfredo Aceves. The stat comparison for a small sample size this season is favourable for Oramas Oramas - 13 games (all starts) 63.2 IP, 49 hits, 27 BB, 61K Aceves - 19 games (7 starts) 55 IP, 58 hits, 18 BB, 36K The 27 BB's would be a concern as no one in the Mexican league draws a walk.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Checking out his Pacifico Liga team and the familiar name that stands out is Alfredo Aceves. The stat comparison for a small sample size this season is favourable for Oramas Oramas - 13 games (all starts) 63.2 IP, 49 hits, 27 BB, 61K Aceves - 19 games (7 starts) 55 IP, 58 hits, 18 BB, 36K The 27 BB's would be a concern as no one in the Mexican league draws a walk. Definitely a league batting. Couple of minutes ago I talked with Willis Otanez (Mexican league player) "Oramas is very good. Mexicans loves this young lefty"
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Mexicans loves this young lefty" yes but Mexicans also love Menudo (Both the band and the lining of a cows stomach), 44+ inch hips, fitting 20 people into a pickup and Jello. Tough to take their opinions seriously
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 yes but Mexicans also love Menudo (Both the band and the lining of a cows stomach), 44+ inch hips, fitting 20 people into a pickup and Jello. Tough to take their opinions seriously Eres Mexicano....o tu novio? http://images4.mtv.com/uri/mgid:file:docroot:vh1.com:/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/news_features/boy_bands/menudo201981.jpg?width=284&height=210&enlarge=true&matte=true&matteColor=black&quality=0.85
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Eres Mexicano....o tu novio? Todos somos mexicano
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 This tidbit was from before 2014, on Fangraphs: Not included here, but of some interest for the substance of his Steamer projection, is left-hander Juan Oramas. As a 23-year-old at Double-A this past year, he recorded strikeout and walk rates of 28.0% and 7.0%, respectively, in 12 starts and 55.2 innings. His projections for 2014 (prorated to 150 innings): 20.1% K, 9.4% BB, 104 kwERA-, 1.6 WAR.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Juan Pablo Oramas alias Dennys Reyes http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Pittsburgh+Pirates+v+St+Louis+Cardinals+Ri68B2Ejfipm.jpg Wow this video makes him look even worse. His breaking ball looks like it's going 30mph with nothing on it... he's also fat and tubby Lay off the Chilaquiles u fat f***
Key22 Verified Member Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout David Ortizism, CC Sabathiaism, David Wellsism, Babe Ruthism, Pablo Sandovalsm, Tony Gwynismism This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism All we are saying is give fat a chance All we are saying is give fat a chance
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Does he have to stay on the major league roster or be exposed to waivers again? If that is the case, we could put him in the pen and then stretch him out later.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I think you are selling him short. Only question is 1st ballot HOF or 2nd So much dumn, mate?!
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 The Blue Jays seem to be making a lot of solid waiver claims and minor league signings this offseason. Added guys like Chris Colabello, Caleb Gindl, Ezequil Carrera, this guy, Wilton Lopez, Kalish, Barton, Albers as stashable depth. AA has been all about trying to build a winner in Buffalo for a few years now.
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