Jays Claim 1B/OF Chris Colabello of Waivers

[wamco]

Depth move. Will hit in the middle of the Bison's order. I like the fact AA is conscious of keeping the Buffalo people happy while adding depth. Having our AAA affiliate in Buffalo is more important than some may think.

 

nevermind

[King]

Nice, I like this.

 

What a signing

[Caper]

Once again all the f***ing dummy GM's prove what they really know.

[Laika]

The Blue Jays have already gotten something like $3-4 million dollars in hypothetical value from Colabello. The trick will be to cut ties with him at the right time, so that he doesn't give that all back with a slump before getting DFA'd/demoted/traded/euthanized.

 

IIRC Juan Francisco was well over 1 fWAR at one point last year, but ended up at 0.8. He's the cautionary tale.

 

Month / PA / wOBA

Apr / 41 / .376

May / 85 / .432

Jun / 69 / .259

Jul / 69 / .367

Aug / 51 / .182

 

1st half: .359

2nd half: .251

 

With Colabello's extremely negative defensive value and PD stats, he could give back his 0.4 fWAR in like, one week of s***** play. Don't marry the guy.

 

Also his neck is too skinny and his head is too small and he sort of looks like a goomba.

 

 

5.8 BB%

24.7 K%

.169 ISO

.432 BABIP

 

Are these well and good projectable peripherals for a DH/1B? No...

[Jimcanuck]

The Blue Jays have already gotten something like $3-4 million dollars in hypothetical value from Colabello. The trick will be to cut ties with him at the right time, so that he doesn't give that all back with a slump before getting DFA'd/demoted/traded/euthanized.

 

IIRC Juan Francisco was well over 1 fWAR at one point last year, but ended up at 0.8. He's the cautionary tale.

 

Month / PA / wOBA

Apr / 41 / .376

May / 85 / .432

Jun / 69 / .259

Jul / 69 / .367

Aug / 51 / .182

 

1st half: .359

2nd half: .251

 

With Colabello's extremely negative defensive value and PD stats, he could give back his 0.4 fWAR in like, one week of s***** play. Don't marry the guy.

 

Also his neck is too skinny and his head is too small and he sort of looks like a goomba.

 

 

5.8 BB%

24.7 K%

.169 ISO

.432 BABIP

 

Are these well and good projectable peripherals for a DH/1B? No...

 

or he's the new Bautista

[Orgfiller]

or he's the new Bautista

 

Yeah...no he's not...

[Laika]

or he's the new Bautista

 

Find the nearest dick, and eat it

[Dick_Pole]

Once again all the f***ing dummy GM's prove what they really know.

 

This is making up for 3 years of inept roster management for spots 20-25 by AA mixed in with bad luck. Now it's inept roster management for spots 20-25 by AA mixed in with good luck to offset the misery of 73-89. Let's not kill the good luck karma with comments like this. Colabello is a one tool player with luck on his side right now. I hope to be wrong and he bring something to this team for the rest of 2015 and maybe beyond, but right now I'd put my money on Smoak lasting longer on this MLB squad than him. Juan Francisco is a pretty good comp as someone mentioned already.

[Jayday]

LOL , i wouldn't doubt this org will favor smoak over colabello, like they kept jpa over gomes.

[RealAccountant]

^Keeping JPA over Gomes was an atrocious judgement of internal talent. Just like not keeping Kevin Cash in the organization. When you have a baseball mind like Cash, you dont go around looking to recycle Gibby, you groom Cash and make him the manager.

 

Not to mention keeping the worst of the Lansing 3

[Deadpool]

LOL , i wouldn't doubt this org will favor smoak over colabello, like they kept jpa over gomes.

 

Wait... Are you suggesting that, long term, Colabello is a better asset than Smoak?

[BigCecil]

The Blue Jays have already gotten something like $3-4 million dollars in hypothetical value from Colabello. The trick will be to cut ties with him at the right time, so that he doesn't give that all back with a slump before getting DFA'd/demoted/traded/euthanized.

 

IIRC Juan Francisco was well over 1 fWAR at one point last year, but ended up at 0.8. He's the cautionary tale.

 

Month / PA / wOBA

Apr / 41 / .376

May / 85 / .432

Jun / 69 / .259

Jul / 69 / .367

Aug / 51 / .182

 

1st half: .359

2nd half: .251

 

With Colabello's extremely negative defensive value and PD stats, he could give back his 0.4 fWAR in like, one week of s***** play. Don't marry the guy.

 

Also his neck is too skinny and his head is too small and he sort of looks like a goomba.

 

 

5.8 BB%

24.7 K%

.169 ISO

.432 BABIP

 

Are these well and good projectable peripherals for a DH/1B? No...

 

King's WAR goes up .2 for this bump. Nice to read the initial reaction.

 

Agree with this analysis. His D liabilities mean he needs to be keep hitting above his weight to be of value...we already have a DH(s).

 

Collabello > Juan F

[Brownie19]

 

Not to mention keeping the worst of the Lansing 3

 

Sanchez >>> Nicolino

[Governator]

I don't understand why everyone harps on Colabello's lack of D.

 

You're pulling mostly on his outfield defensive metrics. If you stuck Smoak in LF how well would he fair?

[glory]

LOL , i wouldn't doubt this org will favor smoak over colabello, like they kept jpa over gomes.

 

Smoak is a better long-term piece than Colabello. Don't let a hot streak fool you.

[Laika]

I don't understand why everyone harps on Colabello's lack of D.

 

You're pulling mostly on his outfield defensive metrics. If you stuck Smoak in LF how well would he fair?

 

Bad LF

Average 1B

DH

 

All have negative defensive value. Colabello bleeds runs no matter where you pencil him in. Its just a question of quantity

[Atothe]

Cola over Smoak according to jayday Lol. Smoak being compared to JPA lmao. Jayday going for worst post of the year haha

[Atothe]

Sorry Jayday but Jimcanuck wants that terrible post of the year award. Cola being compared to the best hitter in franchise history. Jesus

[S33n]

Sorry Jayday but Jimcanuck wants that terrible post of the year award. Cola being compared to the best hitter in franchise history. Jesus

 

I missed the part where he compared Colabello to Carlos Delgado.

[sachmo55]

The Blue Jays have already gotten something like $3-4 million dollars in hypothetical value from Colabello. The trick will be to cut ties with him at the right time, so that he doesn't give that all back with a slump before getting DFA'd/demoted/traded/euthanized.

 

IIRC Juan Francisco was well over 1 fWAR at one point last year, but ended up at 0.8. He's the cautionary tale.

 

Month / PA / wOBA

Apr / 41 / .376

May / 85 / .432

Jun / 69 / .259

Jul / 69 / .367

Aug / 51 / .182

 

1st half: .359

2nd half: .251

 

With Colabello's extremely negative defensive value and PD stats, he could give back his 0.4 fWAR in like, one week of s***** play. Don't marry the guy.

 

Also his neck is too skinny and his head is too small and he sort of looks like a goomba.

 

 

5.8 BB%

24.7 K%

.169 ISO

.432 BABIP

 

Are these well and good projectable peripherals for a DH/1B? No...

 

Jesus, I didn't realize he was only a positive 0.4 WAR to this point with a .380+ wOBA and a .437 babip. The eventual regression could get pretty ugly.

[Atothe]

I missed the part where he compared Colabello to Carlos Delgado.

 

Bautista bro, get with the times

[closetjaysfan]

Jesus, I didn't realize he was only a positive 0.4 WAR to this point with a .380+ wOBA and a .437 babip. The eventual regression could get pretty ugly.

 

On the offense side of things, he is arguably the 4th best hitter on the team. Defensively, he is the worst and it is not even close. I dont understand why isnt DHing.

[RealAccountant]

On the offense side of things, he is arguably the 4th best hitter on the team. Defensively, he is the worst and it is not even close. I dont understand why isnt DHing.

 

4th best? So he is better than Martin? Or Reyes? Or Both? Lmao. Wake up.

[Jayday]

Smoak is a better long-term piece than Colabello. Don't let a hot streak fool you.

 

I hope you're not hoping Smoak will be in the Jay's long term plans !

He is a below average 1st baseman...there's a reason he only made a total of 5 million in the last 5 years. When a crap team like Seattle puts a player on waivers ,you need to run from him like your hair's on fire. Ok, he's cheap.. give him a defensive role in the later innings, like goins will be used. Right now CC has more value,is he a keeper.. most likely not .. but HOLY SMOKES, NOT SMOAK !

But who really know what the future holds for smoak or CC,.. but my money is on CC to make more of a positive contribution this year.

[Atothe]

I hope you're not hoping Smoak will be in the Jay's long term plans !

He is a below average 1st baseman...there's a reason he only made a total of 5 million in the last 5 years. When a crap team like Seattle puts a player on waivers ,you need to run from him like your hair's on fire. Ok, he's cheap.. give him a defensive role in the later innings, like goins will be used. Right now CC has more value,is he a keeper.. most likely not .. but HOLY SMOKES, NOT SMOAK !

But who really know what the future holds for smoak or CC,.. but my money is on CC to make more of a positive contribution this year.

 

You did it, You did it. You beat jimcanuck for worst post of the year!!! Congrats Jayday. Wow that was one of the closest races of the year but you came out on top with this terrible stupid post

[BigCecil]

I'm really curious. Did anyone have a Gomes boner before he was traded? I don't recall him being any kind of a special prospect... Just a marginal one if memory serves. Did anyone have him ranked high in their prospects lists? Those are the people that are allowed to say 'I told you so'. Not so much anyone else...

 

Except for the fact that we are not professionals paid to assess, select/accquire and develop talent. Because we didn't see his talent isn't really the point. Its not our job and our business. I didn't see what Gomes could have been in his cup of coffee with the big team, but that doesn't mean that mgm and their team shouldn't have.

 

As evidenced by whats on the field developed by our org, the Jays drafting and talent development has been poor. Better under AA I think...but still marginal.

 

But hey...even with pros sometimes the Gomes slip by.

[Smokey]

I'm really curious. Did anyone have a Gomes boner before he was traded? I don't recall him being any kind of a special prospect... Just a marginal one if memory serves. Did anyone have him ranked high in their prospects lists? Those are the people that are allowed to say 'I told you so'. Not so much anyone else...

 

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Trading Gomes or even d'Arnaud and going all-in with JPA as the primary catcher was a colossal mistake. You're right in the fact that most didn't see much value in Gomes, although his versatility was thought to be an asset by some, but pretty much everyone on this board not including Jimcannot, Saskjaysfan and theblujay knew by then that JPA wasn't good enough. AA however saw him as "his guy" and didn't even see a need for some competition or depth in that spot. The Gomes trade represents more than just a mis evaluation of Gomes talents but also a major mis evaluation of JP's talents which shouldn't be simply dismissed.

[fireballW]

I'm really curious. Did anyone have a Gomes boner before he was traded? I don't recall him being any kind of a special prospect... Just a marginal one if memory serves. Did anyone have him ranked high in their prospects lists? Those are the people that are allowed to say 'I told you so'. Not so much anyone else...

 

Definitely did not have a Gomes boner but would have easily chosen him over Arencibia. Easily.

[BigCecil]

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Trading Gomes or even d'Arnaud and going all-in with JPA as the primary catcher was a colossal mistake. You're right in the fact that most didn't see much value in Gomes, although his versatility was thought to be an asset by some, but pretty much everyone on this board not including Jimcannot, Saskjaysfan and theblujay knew by then that JPA wasn't good enough. AA however saw him as "his guy" and didn't even see a need for some competition or depth in that spot. The Gomes trade represents more than just a mis evaluation of Gomes talents but also a major mis evaluation of JP's talents which shouldn't be simply dismissed.

 

Fair post. Staying with JPA as long as we did, at the expense of other options (like Gomes) was an obvious mistake even to the most casual fan.

[Smokey]

Fair post. Staying with JPA as long as we did, at the expense of other options (like Gomes) was an obvious mistake even to the most casual fan.

 

The ridiculousness had reached to a point where JPA was openly gloating on Twitter about AA promising not to trade him. And who could forget opening day and the decision to have JP catch Dickey when they had already allocated a roster spot to Thole (whose only purpose on the squad was to catch the knuckleball)... I think Arencibia had 7-8 passed balls in that game before they decided to scrap that idea... lol