Source: Blue Jays in dialogue with Robertson and/or Gregerson

[Angrioter]

Ken Davidoff

 

The Yankees’ refusal to go overboard for any free agents, be they from their own team or elsewhere, has them immersed in battles all over the continent and all over the diamond.

 

The Blue Jays “love” closer David Robertson, according to one industry source, and have engaged in dialogue with Robertson’s agent Scott Leventhal. And the Giants have “solid” interest in third baseman Chase Headley, according to a second source. FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reported San Francisco’s pursuit of Headley had turned “aggressive.”

 

After finishing one game behind the Yankees in 2014, Toronto has joined Boston as the most active American League East teams to date this offseason. Already, as baseball officials arrive in San Diego on Sunday for the Winter Meetings, the Jays have signed former Yankees catcher Russell Martin to a five-year, $82-million contract and acquired third baseman Josh Donaldson (from Oakland) and outfielder Michael Saunders (from Seattle) in trades.

 

“Toronto and Boston have made some big moves, no doubt about it,” Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said Friday. “They’ve improved.”

Both teams are looking to do far more. Jon Heyman of CBS Sports first reported the Blue Jays’ consideration of Robertson, as Toronto’s bullpen faltered last season. However, whether the Jays will meet Robertson’s asking price of about $50 million over four years remains in question. Even some Toronto officials are skeptical that the club ultimately will land the Yankees’ closer of 2014, and the club also is very high on accomplished free-agent setup man Luke Gregerson.

 

Though the Yankees remain involved with their homegrown product Robertson, their signing of power lefty reliever Andrew Miller to a four-year, $36-million contract Friday diminishes their need for Robertson. The Yankees have been steadfast that they won’t give Robertson the years and dollars he wants — it’s notable the Yankees weren’t even the highest bidders for Miller. The Astros offered Miller four years and $40 million, and they also have pursued Robertson, although The Post’s George King reported last week that Houston officials are skeptical whether Robertson actually would come aboard.

 

Headley, meanwhile, charmed the Yankees with his half-season audition in pinstripes, yet the team might not guarantee more than three years to the third baseman. The Giants, looking to defend their third World Series title in five years, know they need an experienced bat to fill the void left by Pablo Sandoval’s departure to Boston, and their two open position are third base (which Sandoval played) and left field. Consequently, San Francisco also is interested in a reunion with former Yankee Melky Cabrera, whose previous tenure at AT&T Park concluded in 2012 with a suspension for a failed drug test.

 

 

http://nypost.com/2014/12/06/yankees-on-alert-as-jays-love-robertson-giants-after-headley/

[Angrioter]

Janssen 6 AAV over Robertson 15 AAV

[HERPDERP]

Robertson won't be able to get anywhere close to the money Miller got, thanks to the draft pick signing clubs will have to forfeit.

 

Anyone know what happens if he sign him and then Melky signs elsewhere? Do we lose a 1st? 2nd?

 

Also, the thing I like about Robertson is that his stuff is not the only thing he has going for him. Apparently because of his delivery, he is able to release the ball closer to home plate than other pitchers. IT doesn't seem like much, but remember baseball is a game of inches.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/5/4/2999268/david-robertson-mariano-rivera-injury-yankees-closer

[guylaroche5]

yeah let's overpay for a reliever and give the yankees a draft pick, what could possibly go wrong? i'm not buying that rumor, how much is gregerson asking for?

[Mikeleelop]

If the jays sign Robertson and Cabrera signs elsewhere I think they lose their first and the Cabrera comp pick

[Deadpool]

Pass on Robertson, probably pass on Gregerson, unless it's a pretty reasonable contract...

[Abomination]

Robertson won't be able to get anywhere close to the money Miller got, thanks to the draft pick signing clubs will have to forfeit.

 

Anyone know what happens if he sign him and then Melky signs elsewhere? Do we lose a 1st? 2nd?

 

Also, the thing I like about Robertson is that his stuff is not the only thing he has going for him. Apparently because of his delivery, he is able to release the ball closer to home plate than other pitchers. IT doesn't seem like much, but remember baseball is a game of inches.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/5/4/2999268/david-robertson-mariano-rivera-injury-yankees-closer

 

Robertson will get more than Miller got, but with the compensation issue, he might not get 15 AAV. It might be closer to the 11 to 12 AAV range.

[G-Snarls]

Robertson will get more than Miller got, but with the compensation issue, he might not get 15 AAV. It might be closer to the 11 to 12 AAV range.

 

Don't want ANY reliever making more than 6-8M MAX and that's pushing it AFAIC.

[Angrioter]

Don't want ANY reliever making more than 6-8M MAX and that's pushing it AFAIC.

 

I want Gregerson and his 7AAV lol

 

Morrow could be great, but he want to start games

[Chappy]

f*** Morrow.

[jays4life19]

Don't want ANY reliever making more than 6-8M MAX and that's pushing it AFAIC.

 

Agreed.

[Abomination]

Don't want ANY reliever making more than 6-8M MAX and that's pushing it AFAIC.

 

Yeah, I'd rather spread the money around. Heck, I'd rather give Shields 15M / year and make Sanchez the closer if it came down to that. I'm perfectly happy with Cecil as the closer regardless, and pick up a few solid guys to fill out the pen.

 

There's been some reports that KC needs to trade one of their relievers. Picking up Holland or Wade Davis would be really interesting.

[labadee]

I want Gregerson and his 7AAV lol

 

Morrow could be great, but he want to start games

 

Morrow can go suck a lemon.

[Angrioter]

f*** Morrow.

 

Yeah ----> http://m.mlb.com/video/v10760449/tbtor-morrow-fans-17-and-flirts-with-a-nohitter/?query=morrow%2B17

[itaos]

Is gregerson really worth 7aav?

[Ziggyy108]

Load up ...

[Abomination]

Is gregerson really worth 7aav?

 

I'd be a lot more comfortable at closer to 5, especially considering his lack of velocity.

[KingKat]

If the jays sign Robertson and Cabrera signs elsewhere I think they lose their first and the Cabrera comp pick

 

The only way the Jays lose the Cabrera comp pick is if they sign Cabrera themselves. They already lost their first by signing Martin. If they sign another type A, they will lose also their 2nd, if they sign two more, their 2nd and their 3rd, etc...

[Abomination]

I'd like Gregerson if the price is not astronomical. He could close to keep Cecil's arb salary from inflating for 2016.

 

I don't see why we couldn't do the same sort of thing with Cecil as the A's did with Doolittle.

[Ziggyy108]

Rather get Jed Lowrie but our pen is pretty ugly right now

[Stangstag]

Yeah ----> http://m.mlb.com/video/v10760449/tbtor-morrow-fans-17-and-flirts-with-a-nohitter/?query=morrow%2B17

 

How many years ago was that?

[itaos]

I'd be a lot more comfortable at closer to 5, especially considering his lack of velocity.

 

Looks like he's had success with lower velocities but 5aav is more to my liking as well

[glory]

Grilli, Ogando, and Crain.

 

You could get all three combined for less than Robertson alone.

[Angrioter]

Some Jays lefty who lost velocity and his wife tweets like JP Arencibia 2013

2013-2014: 114 innings

(11.53 K, 3.95 BB, 0.47HR)/9, 53% GB, 2.63 FIP

 

VS

 

David Robertson

2013-2014: 130 innings

(11.92 K, 2.82 BB, 0.83 HR)/9, 48% GB, 2.65 FIP

[G-Snarls]

"We signed off on Chapman" - Paul Beeston

[canadiansportsjunkie]

I like Gregerson and would sign him over Roberston

[Captain Adama]

Honestly, just pluck any guy off the waiver wire and have him pitch in the bullpen. I'd rather that than commit anything more than 3 years to a reliever not named Kimbrel, Chapman, or Jansen

[Maahfaace]

Honestly, just pluck any guy off the waiver wire and have him pitch in the bullpen. I'd rather that than commit anything more than 3 years to a reliever not named Kimbrel, Chapman, or Jansen

 

I hope you mean Kenley and not Casey lol

[GD]

I hope you mean Kenley and not Casey lol

 

Well, one player is named Kenley Jansen, and the other player is named Casey Janssen, so

[Angrioter]

I hope you mean Kenley and not Casey lol

 

Jansen, not Janssen