Would you consider Rasmus back at a bargain?

Ultimate · December 3, 2014

During the season last year I would have said "no way" to bringing back Colby, partly because I thought he was going to get a big contract and because we had other options for CF.

But now I am thinking that if his market value came down far enough I would not be opposed to him returning.

If you had Rasmus in CF, you could slide the Pompey/Pillar competition to LF.

-The overall outfield defense would be much better than with Melky or most of the other alternatives in LF.

-Rasmus would provide us with a much needed Left handed bat.

-He had a bad year last year but his numbers weren't as bad as a lot of people think they were. Was still better than league average with an OPS+ of 104

-I think the injuries, lost playing time had some impact on his numbers last year. If he got back to his 2013 level it would be a bargain.

-Certainly reasonable to expect him to produce halfway between his 2013 and 2014 levels with an OPS of around .790. Most of the LF options we are considering won't come close to that.

-He has been better than Markakis the last 2 years and will cost much less in term and AAV

If he would sign a 2 year deal at 7-9 million per year, would you consider it?

I know there used to be some rules against resigning one of your own players in which you did not provide with a qualifying offer. I don't believe those rules exist anymore.

Governator · December 3, 2014

No and I named my son after him.

GreekFatAss · December 3, 2014

No

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admin · December 3, 2014

Yes. But not as a player.

Jimcanuck · December 3, 2014

Better option than Saunders, Aoki, Fowler, Markakis for LF. But he won't come back. He'll want to be as far from Toronto as possible.

jays4life19 · December 3, 2014

I would be really happy if Colby signed a one year pillow contract to play LF. We really need another left handed bat. With that said....he's not coming back.

4.2k · December 3, 2014

Yes but it's not going to happen.

Angrioter · December 3, 2014

I like him, but he doesn't like Canada.

Ultimate · December 3, 2014

Refresh my memory. What did he say/indicate about not liking Canada?

Governator · December 3, 2014

I would be really happy if Colby signed a one year pillow contract to play LF. We really need another left handed bat. With that said....he's not coming back.

We want to sign a LF with at least a 33% on base rate not a 33% K rate.

jays4life19 · December 3, 2014

We want to sign a LF with at least a 33% on base rate not a 33% K rate.

And he still managed to put up a 103 wRC+.

Mikeleelop · December 3, 2014

U think Rasmus wants to come back to play for gibbons after he was stapled to the bench in September of his UFA offseason?

I don't

ElNik2013 · December 3, 2014

For sure. Better than paying for Cabrera, Markakis plus I don't want them to give up anymore legit prospects.

Jimcanuck · December 3, 2014

It's unfortunate the Jays pissed him off after they were out of it.

Rasmus as a lefthanded bat somewhere between Bautista, EE, and Donaldson could be something else. He'll get plenty of pitches to hit, but his IQ might not let him take advantage.

JaysAllMighty · December 3, 2014

Well I doubt that's even a possibility, they benched him for a reason. Jays will explore their present players before ever considering him. He's done forever as a Blue Jay so let it go.

KingKat · December 3, 2014

During the season last year I would have said "no way" to bringing back Colby, partly because I thought he was going to get a big contract and because we had other options for CF.

But now I am thinking that if his market value came down far enough I would not be opposed to him returning.

If you had Rasmus in CF, you could slide the Pompey/Pillar competition to LF.

-The overall outfield defense would be much better than with Melky or most of the other alternatives in LF.
-Rasmus would provide us with a much needed Left handed bat.
-He had a bad year last year but his numbers weren't as bad as a lot of people think they were. Was still better than league average with an OPS+ of 104
-I think the injuries, lost playing time had some impact on his numbers last year. If he got back to his 2013 level it would be a bargain.
-Certainly reasonable to expect him to produce halfway between his 2013 and 2014 levels with an OPS of around .790. Most of the LF options we are considering won't come close to that.
-He has been better than Markakis the last 2 years and will cost much less in term and AAV

If he would sign a 2 year deal at 7-9 million per year, would you consider it?

I know there used to be some rules against resigning one of your own players in which you did not provide with a qualifying offer. I don't believe those rules exist anymore.

I find it interesting that Rasmus has generated so little discussion from the fan base when Melky, a flawed player in his own right, has generated tons of discussion, to the point where some people go far as to gauge the whole success of the offseason on whether or not he's brought back (a notion so ridiculous it makes me angry). Anyways, Rasmus makes a kind of sense on paper. He's a bounce back candidate, he bats left, he plays CF but he's basically worn out his welcome. He's was just so worthless this year. The CF defense isn't even good anymore and the bat doesn't play anywhere else. I'm curious to see where he ends up and how much money he makes.

ElNik2013 · December 3, 2014

It's unfortunate the Jays pissed him off after they were out of it.

Rasmus as a lefthanded bat somewhere between Bautista, EE, and Donaldson could be something else. He'll get plenty of pitches to hit, but his IQ might not let him take advantage.

I think his play pissed up the Jays first. Let's face it, for all the upside he has, you just cannot rely on him from year to year. He's like an injury-prone player, except he's inconsistency-prone

King · December 3, 2014

He was as good as gone when he was benched for all of September.

Jimcanuck · December 3, 2014

I think his play pissed up the Jays first. Let's face it, for all the upside he has, you just cannot rely on him from year to year. He's like an injury-prone player, except he's inconsistency-prone

Still put up 1.4 WAR in 2014. You are right about the inconsistency but he still provides value as a maddening underachiever.

As far as the benching goes, there's a saying "don't burn your bridges"

ElNik2013 · December 3, 2014

Still put up 1.4 WAR in 2014. You are right about the inconsistency but he still provides value as a maddening underachiever.

As far as the benching goes, there's a saying "don't burn your bridges"

Oh, I'd take him at a bargain price, just saying he played his way onto the bench.

We'll see what happens.

labadee · December 3, 2014

nah, i think that ship has sailed. The O's are considering him as an option though

Daniel Labude · December 3, 2014

Absolutely not!

KingKat · December 3, 2014

As far as the benching goes, there's a saying "don't burn your bridges"

Yeah I didn't care for the benching. It seemed like an unnecessary humiliation for a veteran player. So he was late one day? Big whoop. Sit him one game. Make sure he knows why he was benched and move on. Gibby seems like he holds grudges and I'm not a fan of that.

Dick_Pole · December 3, 2014

If Colby doesn't have a job and the Jays don't have a suitable replacement, why not?

Not sure if his brain works this way, but he's gotta see the team is serious about contending now. And relative to St. Louis he's had a good time here not being under too much of a microscope. If he was coming from another team for a fresh start, half the people saying no would probably say yes to taking a flier on him.

Dick_Pole · December 3, 2014

Yeah I didn't care for the benching. It seemed like an unnecessary humiliation for a veteran player. So he was late one day? Big whoop. Sit him one game. Make sure he knows why he was benched and move on. Gibby seems like he holds grudges and I'm not a fan of that.

I agree. Another bit of drama that could have been avoided.

Spanky99 · December 3, 2014

No, he wouldn't come back here, for all the money in the world.

glory · December 3, 2014

He was benched in favor of Kevin Pillar in the final month of the season before hitting free agency.

He's not going to come back.

Travis_Snider · December 3, 2014

I would like him back, but no way in hell he signs here after September.

baseballsss · December 3, 2014

Yeah I didn't care for the benching. It seemed like an unnecessary humiliation for a veteran player. So he was late one day? Big whoop. Sit him one game. Make sure he knows why he was benched and move on. Gibby seems like he holds grudges and I'm not a fan of that.

There was probably more to the story that wasn't released.

KingKat · December 3, 2014

There was probably more to the story that wasn't released.

I'm not going to just assume that.

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