Donaldson Traded Because of Twitter? Possible? Source

[canadiansportsjunkie]

I was checking out the Oakland forum to see their reaction...Majority upset and are not surprised as everyone knows this is the Oakland way...but one topic talked about the A's moved Donaldson based off his comments via twitter

 

link http://www.athleticsnation.com/2014/11/19/7245441/amid-free-agent-flurry-donaldson-spends-tuesday-dishing-on-twitter

 

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case to be honest, I remember hearing on the radio the A's weren't shopping Donaldson but the Jays blew them away from the offer. I truly believe this trade will be in the Jays favour but not highway robbery...or enough to blow them away...

 

Thoughts?

[John_Havok]

Never would any GM trade an MVP calibre talent because of Twitter.

 

/thread

[Dick_Pole]

Never would any GM trade an MVP calibre talent because of Twitter.

 

/thread

 

Not according to JP Arencibia

[jaysblue]

Yeah I think if what players posted on Twiitter played a huge role in them being traded, we would have seen so many names moved already. Heck, even what Bautista said after the trade deadline last season. What a player says on Twitter has nothing to do with them being traded. Unless its something really really bad.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Never would any GM trade an MVP calibre talent because of Twitter.

 

/thread

 

Did you read the article? Donaldson sends out a message basically saying no matter what happens all always love Oakland through good or bad...which is less then 2 weeks ago.

 

I'm not stating they decided the heck with Donaldson he WILL be moved but rather to entertain offers.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Yeah I think if what players posted on Twiitter played a huge role in them being traded, we would have seen so many names moved already. Heck, even what Bautista said after the trade deadline last season. What a player says on Twitter has nothing to do with them being traded. Unless its something really really bad.

 

I agree with you but every team/owner is different. He may have been more open to the idea after the twitter posts then before...

 

Regardless I found it interesting.

[TwistedLogic]

Yeah, a week and a half ago, Donaldson took to twitter and basically openly talked s*** about ownership. It started with some random dude on twitter basically instigating Donaldson by asking how he's so accepting of a league min salary, and that he should push for more. Donaldson playfully (or not?) implied that he would push for higher salary ("you'll see"), probably referring to his upcoming arbitration case. Another random twitter dude implied that he should be happy with a low payroll as long as it saves the team money to pursue other players to build around him, to which Donaldson said that the team had plenty money, and they simply tell everyone that they don't.

 

It's a bit of a clusterf***. Even if everything he's saying is true (it is), it does kinda show that Donaldson is pretty careless when it comes to discussing this kinda stuff openly in public and if he continues to do that, he'll probably rustle some major jimmies in Toronto, given how absolutely f***ing butthurt our media is about everything. Anyway, here are the tweets:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A's fans seem to think that Beane has an ego and that he's traded away valuable players because of a clash of egos before. A lot of A's fans actually predicted a Donaldson trade after those tweets and were going on "I-told-you-so" tirades once it happened. I don't really care about it, but if that's what helped us get Donaldson, then great.

 

All I'm hoping for is that Donaldson isn't a pain in the ass when it comes to arbitration. Arb is the dumbest reason for teams and players to develop poor relationships over, and it happens somewhere every year.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

I don't know enough about Donaldson to even try to speculate how he will handle arbitration or the Toronto media however he is coming here with a proven track record with a chip on his shoulder!

[fatcowxlive]

I was checking out the Oakland forum to see their reaction...Majority upset and are not surprised as everyone knows this is the Oakland way...but one topic talked about the A's moved Donaldson based off his comments via twitter

 

link http://www.athleticsnation.com/2014/11/19/7245441/amid-free-agent-flurry-donaldson-spends-tuesday-dishing-on-twitter

 

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case to be honest, I remember hearing on the radio the A's weren't shopping Donaldson but the Jays blew them away from the offer. I truly believe this trade will be in the Jays favour but not highway robbery...or enough to blow them away...

 

Thoughts?

 

People from time to time mention that Beane has an ego. Now whether his ego makes him retarded enough to move the best 3B in baseball because of a few tweets is another question

Edited November 30, 2014 by fatcowxlive

[Orgfiller]

People from time to time mention that Beane has an ego. Now whether his ego makes him retarded enough to move the best player in baseball because of a few tweets is another question

 

Easy there cowboy.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

People from time to time mention that Beane has an ego. Now whether his ego makes him retarded enough to move the best player in baseball because of a few tweets is another question

 

I think best player in baseball was a typo on your part...

 

Personally I do believe this had some impact on the move, how much? who knows.

 

Time will tell and if it helps in the future Reddick has also voiced his opinion on the move...But Reddick doesn't have much value IMO

[Maahfaace]

People from time to time mention that Beane has an ego. Now whether his ego makes him retarded enough to move the best player in baseball because of a few tweets is another question

 

u must mean best 3B in baseball, cause hes definitely not the best player in baseball

[TwistedLogic]

u must mean best 3B in baseball, cause hes definitely not the best player in baseball

 

Maybe not even the best 3B to be honest. He's up there, but if Rendon is for real, then there's an argument.

 

 

People from time to time mention that Beane has an ego. Now whether his ego makes him retarded enough to move the best player in baseball because of a few tweets is another question

 

I feel like this has to be at least a bit of a factor. How else does it make any sense? The A's were adamant that Donaldson wasn't moving, and then he makes a bunch of tweets, and shortly after he's traded? And if this wasn't a factor, and cutting payroll really was the object, then how oh how do you justify signing Country Breakfast for $30M? It's such a weird situation.

 

Alex calls you a few weeks ago, asks Donaldson, you say no. Now Donaldson does something dumb on twitter, ownership is feeling butthurt about it, Alex calls you again, this time you say "okay, well, what exactly did you have in mind?"

 

I dunno, seems plausible.

Edited November 30, 2014 by TwistedLogic

[jaysblue]

People from time to time mention that Beane has an ego. Now whether his ego makes him retarded enough to move one of the best players in baseball because of a few tweets is another question

 

Made the correction!

[jaysblue]

u must mean best 3B in baseball, cause hes definitely not the best player in baseball

 

I think he meant one of the best. And it's true, JD has been one of the best players in baseball over these past two seasons.

[TwistedLogic]

This tweet was re-tweeted by Josh Reddick:

 

http://i.gyazo.com/d94a012ce51eec5b49b7efc21525c867.png

 

Reddick has also openly criticized this deal, questioning why the A's traded away their "best player for the last two years".

 

So I guess the sentiment in the clubhouse is that the whole twitter thing with Donaldson did play a factor to a certain degree.

 

Oh well, if we see Reddick traded now, it'll probably go a lot further to prove that theory.

 

Or maybe they go out of their way to hang onto him now to try and disprove those rumors.

 

Regardless, if Reddick is on the outs with the A's, I'd welcome him with open arms to Toronto. A's got so many players still that make so much sense for the Jays; Reddick, Moss, Shark, Jaso, list goes on.

[flafson]

He said close to nothing about the ownership, if that was the standard for getting traded they would ban Twitter altogether from any kind of professional sports.

[L54]

Am I the only one who's really not comfortable with trading anymore prospects? The most valuable prospects are on the cusp of being big league contributors, and the rest of what makes up the Jays farm system seem to be years away and not hold as much value across the league (although Barretto seems to make an exception).

 

Maybe I'm tired and not thinking straight, but a couple more deals (I'm looking at you, Brandon McCarthy and Jed Lowrie) along with putting together a bullpen and this team looks pretty good. I just don't see a scenario where the Jays line up with the Mariners for Saunders that makes sense for both teams. I'd love him (then McCarthy, then Lowrie, in that order), but without a 3rd team not sure how it would get done.

[King]

This tweet was re-tweeted by Josh Reddick:

 

http://i.gyazo.com/d94a012ce51eec5b49b7efc21525c867.png

 

Reddick has also openly criticized this deal, questioning why the A's traded away their "best player for the last two years".

 

So I guess the sentiment in the clubhouse is that the whole twitter thing with Donaldson did play a factor to a certain degree.

 

Oh well, if we see Reddick traded now, it'll probably go a lot further to prove that theory.

 

Or maybe they go out of their way to hang onto him now to try and disprove those rumors.

 

Regardless, if Reddick is on the outs with the A's, I'd welcome him with open arms to Toronto. A's got so many players still that make so much sense for the Jays; Reddick, Moss, Shark, Jaso, list goes on.

 

Reddick was pissed last night.

 

Remember this?

 

Stanton after Jays/Miami trade

 

[burlingtonbandit]

Am I the only one who's really not comfortable with trading anymore prospects? The most valuable prospects are on the cusp of being big league contributors, and the rest of what makes up the Jays farm system seem to be years away and not hold as much value across the league (although Barretto seems to make an exception).

 

Maybe I'm tired and not thinking straight, but a couple more deals (I'm looking at you, Brandon McCarthy and Jed Lowrie) along with putting together a bullpen and this team looks pretty good. I just don't see a scenario where the Jays line up with the Mariners for Saunders that makes sense for both teams. I'd love him (then McCarthy, then Lowrie, in that order), but without a 3rd team not sure how it would get done.

 

Really depends who the prospects are and what you are getting back in the deal. Graveman and Nolin have pretty low ceilings and were college senior signs for like less than 25k IIRC. To even get anything of value drafting in those spots is a huge plus. They were pretty low on the depth chart behind more talented pitchers like Norris and Sanchez and you could afford to lose them since there is tremendous SP prospect depth in the farm system. Lets not forget Osuna, Hoffman and Castro are pretty highly touted so you can bridge the gap leaving Graveman and Nolin expendable.

 

Even with those deals this is still a top 15 farm system and a trade for another couple of mid level prospects still doesn't move the needle too much. Really depends on the deal since there 2 pretty big holes in LF and 2B.

[TwistedLogic]

Reddick was pissed last night.

 

Remember this?

 

Stanton after Jays/Miami trade

 

 

I do remember that, and it's the first thing I thought about when I saw Reddick's tweet. The difference here is that the Marlins have always insisted, every single step of the way, that Stanton was never going anywhere. That was just something people deduced based on everything else that happened. The A's on the other hand seem to be listening on all of their players. I do think it could play a factor, however small it may be, in a potential Reddick move.

[Stangstag]

Lets just pull off another f***ing blockbuster with the A's.

 

McCarthy + Lowrie + Reddick for Travis + Sanchez + Jiminez + ???

 

That would solve alot of holes for us.

 

EDIT: on second thought, that's probably an overpay on our side.

[LongTimeReader]

Never would any GM trade an MVP calibre talent because of Twitter.

 

/thread

 

Not "/thread" at all apparently. Nobody saying it has a direct relationship to "Twitter", but the facts are pretty evident that management was annoyed by his comments. AA asked about him a couple months ago, he was not available, and now he is, things changed.

[Frenchsoup]

Lets just pull off another f***ing blockbuster with the A's.

 

McCarthy + Lowrie + Reddick for Travis + Sanchez + Jiminez + ???

 

That would solve alot of holes for us.

 

EDIT: on second thought, that's probably an overpay on our side.

 

Wow maybe we need an mlb free agents thread....

[Ziggyy108]

Billy Beane reasoning for trade ....

 

https://twitter.com/JaneMLB/status/538547001000865792/photo/1

[ElNik2013]

Am I the only one who's really not comfortable with trading anymore prospects? The most valuable prospects are on the cusp of being big league contributors, and the rest of what makes up the Jays farm system seem to be years away and not hold as much value across the league (although Barretto seems to make an exception).

 

Maybe I'm tired and not thinking straight, but a couple more deals (I'm looking at you, Brandon McCarthy and Jed Lowrie) along with putting together a bullpen and this team looks pretty good. I just don't see a scenario where the Jays line up with the Mariners for Saunders that makes sense for both teams. I'd love him (then McCarthy, then Lowrie, in that order), but without a 3rd team not sure how it would get done.

 

 

 

You're not the only one. I've said it makes more sense to spend some more money instead of trading prospects when the system has just recovered from the Marlins and Mets trades. Nolin and Graveman weren't high ceiling guys, but they provided starting pitching depth for the MLB team and could've ended up as relievers as well. I hated to see Barreto go, but I can see how a prospect like him needed to be included in the deal. This was by no means a fleecing, IMO, as I think Oakland got valuable starting pitching depth plus a good 3b in Lawrie with some nice upside and still just 25.

 

 

No doubt the farm took a hit, especially with Barreto gone. On the other hand, with a full season from guys like Hoffman, Pentecost, SRF, Osuna and Clinton Hollon, the system should get a boost next year.

 

We'll see what happens.

[ElNik2013]

Lets just pull off another f***ing blockbuster with the A's.

 

McCarthy + Lowrie + Reddick for Travis + Sanchez + Jiminez + ???

 

That would solve alot of holes for us.

 

EDIT: on second thought, that's probably an overpay on our side.

 

 

 

Especially since McCarthy and Lowrie are FA.

 

Edit: Just realized you meant sign McCarthy and Lowrie and trade for Reddick.

Edited November 30, 2014 by ElNik2013

[jaysguy44]

Lets just pull off another f***ing blockbuster with the A's.

 

McCarthy + Lowrie + Reddick for Travis + Sanchez + Jiminez + ???

 

That would solve alot of holes for us.

 

EDIT: on second thought, that's probably an overpay on our side.

 

Big overpayment. Only way I trade Sanchez is for a true #1 for the rotation. Just sign Lowe, as he is a FA. I don't really think Reddick is a need, especially for what he would cost

[TheHurl]

Big overpayment. Only way I trade Sanchez is for a true #1 for the rotation. Just sign Lowe, as he is a FA. I don't really think Reddick is a need, especially for what he would cost

 

I'm willing to say that Nolin will out-perform Sanchez this season, and probably right up until they are both Arb eligible.

[TheHurl]

Everything I've read about Donaldson is that he's completely honest, to a point where a team/fans might think of him as outspoken. Very much like the Jays already have with Bautista. And believe me with Donaldson's backstory (Daddy in prison until 2013, every male role model on his Fathers side dead or in prison, discarded as not going to make it many times. Even the way he asked them to try him at third in training camp when Sizemore got hurt), it's a Sportsnet 30 minute special ready to happen. The guy is a work ethic machine and if things go badly on a PR side, all the focus will go on to how hard Donaldson pushes and is pushing everyone else. Much like Dickey at the start of 2013, the guy is your PR golden boy.