Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 nickcafardo 3m3 minutes ago Weymouth, MA In addition to offers by San Francisco and Boston, Pablo Sandoval is expected to receive an offer from the Blue Jays in next 24 hours.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 nickcafardo 3m3 minutes ago Weymouth, MA In addition to offers by San Francisco and Boston, Pablo Sandoval is expected to receive an offer from the Blue Jays in next 24 hours. Pablo sucks man WTF, he's just not worth it..... he's getting fatter by the day and his stats are declining by the year
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 Troll offer please!! AA, you're good in those kind of offers.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 I'd rather go after Headley, even at close to equal money to what Sandoval offer will likely be.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Expect the polar opposite reaction to the Martin signing if this happens. Casuals: "Dude's a winner". Nerds: "Dude eats too many weiners.".
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 AA going all in to save his job. Yikes.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 This isn't necessarily a bad thing, maybe AA tries to offer market value. Something like 3 years with an option or two in there, if he accepts it, then we acquired an above average player for fair value, if he doesn't, then oh well they weren't willing to overpay because of his body type. Not that big of a deal.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Expect the polar opposite reaction to the Martin signing if this happens. Casuals: "Dude's a winner". Nerds: "Dude eats too many weiners.". He also loves hot dogs.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Steamer quite likes him next year. 3.6 WAR in 597 PA. Of course Steamer likes Headley more but anyhow. Steamer really likes Lawrie too. Could be quite the infield next year.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 I don't mind Sandoval, but I'd be nervous projecting him to be as good defensively too far into the future. His asking price seems to assume that will be the case.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Even if we don't get him it's nice to know the money's there.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Jays might have top lineup in MLB, but pitching gonna s*** the bed
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 I won't rage if they get Panda, but there's smarter ways to spend that money. And if you're going to go as far as 100M for Panda, why not just go the extra mile and pick up Shields? I hope the end result out of all of this is that we learn that the money is actually there, that it gets put to better use, and that this whole thing is just AA despairing Panda, Cherington and Sabean all in one fell swoop.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 I won't rage if they get Panda, but there's smarter ways to spend that money. And if you're going to go as far as 100M for Panda, why not just go the extra mile and pick up Shields. I hope this just means that the money is there and it gets put to better use, and this whole thing is just AA despairing Panda, Cherington and Sabean all in one fell swoop. This
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 This isn't necessarily a bad thing, maybe AA tries to offer market value. Something like 3 years with an option or two in there, if he accepts it, then we acquired an above average player for fair value, if he doesn't, then oh well they weren't willing to overpay because of his body type. Not that big of a deal. Didn't San Fran offer a 6 year deal? Why even bother with a 3 year offer?
Chappy Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 This isn't necessarily a bad thing, maybe AA tries to offer market value. Something like 3 years with an option or two in there, if he accepts it, then we acquired an above average player for fair value, if he doesn't, then oh well they weren't willing to overpay because of his body type. Not that big of a deal. I doubt AA would offer anything less than a 4 year deal and likely offers a 5 year deal. Seems like he doesn't want to play games with fringe players anymore.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 What I don't get is why people are expecting AA to overpay. He's done a lot of things wrong but negotiating contracts has usually been a strength of his.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 AA doesn't have to worry about funds in 2019, because he won't be around. The next GM can take over a team with 3 ~35+ players getting paid $60 million combined.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Didn't San Fran offer a 6 year deal? Why even bother with a 3 year offer? I don't know what he's going to do, I'm just saying that simply because there's a report out there that he's going to submit an offer doesn't mean he'll go 5/100.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 AA favourite title sound right now!
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 He also loves hot dogs. http://instantrimshot.com/
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Well AA isn't going to offer anything more than a 5 year deal which would lock him up from his Age 28-32 seasons. I know he's fat but it's not like he's also old.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 What I don't get is why people are expecting AA to overpay. He's done a lot of things wrong but negotiating contracts has usually been a strength of his. I could see AA paying above market and giving him a 5 year deal with an opt out after 3 years or so as a way to get Panda to come here over other destinations, knowing that he may have another big contract in 3 years.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Well AA isn't going to offer anything more than a 5 year deal which would lock him up from his Age 28-32 seasons. I know he's fat but it's not like he's also old. Oh, I thought he was way older, and was too lazy to look him up on BR.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Well AA isn't going to offer anything more than a 5 year deal which would lock him up from his Age 28-32 seasons. I know he's fat but it's not like he's also old. I don't think he will break down as badly as some people think. He will slow down but I think he can be passable by the end of the contract on a 5 year term.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 what I don't get is in a pitching rich FA market AA seems focussed on position players two things about Jays SP in 2014: - an argument could be made that every SP, from MB to Happ, outperformed their true talent level - Jays got lucky health wise with the SP Anyone expecting a repeat of 2014 from the same group of 5 needs their heads examined
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Oh, I thought he was way older, and was too lazy to look him up on BR. Yeah I think that really helps mitigate the concerns about his conditioning A LOT. For heavier players he probably will start his decline years earlier than most but a 5 year deal isn't going to be paying for too many of those decline seasons, if any. I think there are probably better ways to spend the money but there are also plenty of ways to spend that money worse.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 Well AA isn't going to offer anything more than a 5 year deal which would lock him up from his Age 28-32 seasons. I know he's fat but it's not like he's also old. In the fatty world 5 years are like 10 years; will be like Cano sign.
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