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There are some troubling trends developing in this thread. Drawing parallels between the deaths of Nick Adenhart and Oscar Taveras is in poor taste. Nick Adenhart was a passenger in a vehicle struck by a drunk driver, unequivocally a victim. Oscar Taveras was the driver in a single-vehicle accident, which by all indications was due to reckless driving, he's responsible for his own death and that of the passenger, hardly a victim. Both situations are tragic, but the level of culpability couldn't be more different. Then to have a poster suggest that excessive speed (in poor conditions, no less) is not a factor in single-vehicle accidents, come on.

 

Are you guys serious? Slippery road is the main factor, speed just made it worse.

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Are you guys serious? Slippery road is the main factor, speed just made it worse.

 

No f***ing s***? Wow, thanks for introducing us to the laws of physics.

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Are you guys serious? Slippery road is the main factor, speed just made it worse.

 

Guy does bathsalts and cuts his own head off with a handsaw. Handsaw was the main factor, basthsalts just made it worse.

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That analogy sucks, but your still dumn.

 

I was about to ask how it's even physically possible to cut your own head off with a hacksaw. I guess your dumn to

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Are you guys serious? Slippery road is the main factor, speed just made it worse.

 

Wow, just wow.

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Taveras dying in a car accident is sad as I had watched his career closly after drafting him in low A ball but losing a couple of Canadian solders to Muslim terrorists is devastating as it hurts all Canadians
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There are some troubling trends developing in this thread. Drawing parallels between the deaths of Nick Adenhart and Oscar Taveras is in poor taste. Nick Adenhart was a passenger in a vehicle struck by a drunk driver, unequivocally a victim. Oscar Taveras was the driver in a single-vehicle accident, which by all indications was due to reckless driving, he's responsible for his own death and that of the passenger, hardly a victim. Both situations are tragic, but the level of culpability couldn't be more different. Then to have a poster suggest that excessive speed (in poor conditions, no less) is not a factor in single-vehicle accidents, come on.

 

Christ. The guy died. Mourn and move on you douchebag.

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Christ. The guy died. Mourn and move on you douchebag.

I actually think Lunch's point was well made. If this was some random joe blow, most people would be wagging their finger saying 'that's the risk he took for speeding'. The collective public far too often over sympathizes with celebrities in death, especially when it's by their own hand.

 

I will mourn for OT, but I will mourn MORE for the families and potential all-star career he left behind because of an idiotic decision. Absolutely tragic and completely preventable.

 

/douchebagout

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latest is that he and his girlfriend were drinking all afternoon and she posted a a video before the crash where neither was wearing a seatbelt and a shot of what looks to be open alcohol in the car. There goes the million dollar mlb insurance payout for accidental death to his family.
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latest is that he and his girlfriend were drinking all afternoon and she posted a a video before the crash where neither was wearing a seatbelt and a shot of what looks to be open alcohol in the car. There goes the million dollar mlb insurance payout for accidental death to his family.

 

Didn't they not find anything at the scene to support the involvement of alcohol?

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I don't even understand why anyone cares if he was drinking at this point. Both people in the car are dead. Nobody else was involved. Leave his family alone.
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As a guy who lost my sister to a freak illness at roughly the same age I say "sucks, but his family didn't mourn my loss, so I shan't mourn theirs..." A s***** thing to say, you may think, but people die all the time that none of us mourn over, just because this guy was good at a thing that made him recognizable doesn't mean he had any more value than my sister or millions of others who die tragically... *shrug*
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If you look at the pic posted in page 1 or 2 of this thread you can see what appears to be the top of a beer bottle in the cup holder of the car.
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Link?

 

It was off spanish language websites. Have you seen the video his GF took minutes before the accident showing them with no seatbelts and with open alcohol in the car?

 

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I don't even understand why anyone cares if he was drinking at this point. Both people in the car are dead. Nobody else was involved. Leave his family alone.

 

The girl's family may care, if he was driving

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How do they know this was minutes before the accident? They're driving while it's sunny out, they crashed during a storm? Is there a date on it?

 

There was a time stamp when she uploaded it to her instagram account which was just before the accident. Dominican authorities will no doubt try to hide the fact they were drinking because doing so would remove the chance for their family to get a large accidental insurance payout from his MLB insurance. The autopsy was already completed.

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There was a time stamp when she uploaded it to her instagram account which was just before the accident. Dominican authorities will no doubt try to hide the fact they were drinking because doing so would remove the chance for their family to get a large accidental insurance payout from his MLB insurance. The autopsy was already completed.

 

 

And further friends say Tevaras drank to excess a lot.

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And further friends say Tevaras drank to excess a lot.

 

Why do you care so much? Is it a fear thing? Like if you can explain it away as being his fault, the random death of a young guy isn't so scary?

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/taveras-deemed-drunk-at-time-of-fatal-crash/

 

Tessie Sanchez, a spokeswoman for the attorney general’s office in the Dominican Republic, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that toxicology reports showed Taveras had a blood-alcohol level five times the legal limit when he lost control of his car Oct. 26 on a highway in Puerto Plata.

 

Sad, but as i said before, wasn't speed that killed him, he was drunk.

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Wouldn't be suprised if he was dead before the accident. 0.4 BAC is pretty close to death isn't it?

 

Unless he was a professional alcoholic that's near enough to kill nevermind operate a vehicle.

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Wouldn't be suprised if he was dead before the accident. 0.4 BAC is pretty close to death isn't it?

 

Nah man. That's just the Rob Ford zone.

 

http://science.howstuffworks.com/alcohol5.htm

 

"Stupor (BAC = 0.25 to 0.4 percent)They can barely move at all.

 

  • They can barely move at all.
  • They cannot respond to stimuli.
  • They cannot stand or walk.
  • They may vomit.
  • They may lapse in and out of consciousness.

Coma (BAC = 0.35 to 0.50 percent)

 

  • They are unconscious.
  • Their reflexes are depressed (i.e. their pupils do not respond appropriately to changes in light).
  • They feel cool (lower-than-normal body temperature).
  • Their breathing is slower and more shallow.
  • Their heart rate may slow.
  • They may die.

Death (BAC more than 0.50 percent) - The person usually stops breathing and dies."

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