GDT : - Rest of the season.

[GD]

Sanchez closer 2015

[BlueJayWay]

Sanchez closer 2015

That would be a waste.

[jaysfan2014]

BTW, regarding Refsnyder of the Yankees, he does not project to be much of a regular in the big league according to MLB.com top prospects list for the Yankees:

 

Hit: 55 Power:45 Run:55 Arm: 50 Field:45 Overall:50

 

Yankees would rather play Prado or Drew(if he stays) at 2B than call up this guy. Especially considering Refsnyder's D isn't great.

[jaysfan2014]

That would be a waste.

 

So was the Cardinals using Trevor Rosenthal as a closer, as he was a starter in the minors or Johnathon Papelbon (who was a starter in the minors in Boston.) If Sanchez has the stuff and the Jays have enough depth in SP, they should give Sanchez a shot to close.

[BlueJayWay]

So was the Cardinals using Trevor Rosenthal as a closer, as he was a starter in the minors or Johnathon Papelbon (who was a starter in the minors in Boston.) If Sanchez has the stuff and the Jays have enough depth in SP, they should give Sanchez a shot to close.

You have to see if he can start. It's dumb to waste an arm like that throwing 60 innings a season if he can start and throw 180-200+. You have to see if he can do it.

[Olerud363]

Sanchez closer 2015

 

I honestly have no idea if it would be the right move or not.

 

Of course if he could pitch 200 decent innings as a starter that would be better then 70 awesome innings as a closer. Maybe something like they did with Chris Sale. Another year as a reliever then make the transition. Who knows. Anyone remember Daniel Bard??

 

Anyway it's hilarious that a couple of other guys are giving you crap... like they know for sure he'd hold up as a starter despite a spotty minor league record as a starter.

[jaysfan2014]

No offense, but not interested in your rundown. The numbers were provided as a reference, to show that the Yankees won't be inhibited in payroll-related moves by trying to stay under the cap because, unless they she's huge veteran contracts, they're already going to be over before they add anything (and they are, of course, likely to add.)

 

There will be limits if the Yankees miss the postseason, as the franchise loses money every time they miss the playoffs with the current payroll, especially with the bond payments they owe on Yankee Stadium:

 

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303997604579238550215265832

[BTS]

I'm not convinced Sanchez as closer would be a waste, because I'm not convinced he's capable of being an average starter. I'd probably lean towards sticking him in a high-leverage relief role for 70 innings next year and then re-evaluating if he has a 1-2 win season.

[saskjayfan]

I'm not convinced Sanchez as closer would be a waste, because I'm not convinced he's capable of being an average starter. I'd probably lean towards sticking him in a high-leverage relief role for 70 innings next year and then re-evaluating if he has a 1-2 win season.

 

What exactly in his big league performances would make you think he would not make an average starter? Or are you hung up on minor league stats that don't matter.

[GD]

What exactly in his big league performances would make you think he would not make an average starter? Or are you hung up on minor league stats that don't matter.

 

21 IP of relieving > entire minor league sample of starting

 

sticking to the official saskjayfan motto "sample size is for pussies"

[GD]

Sing it with me kids ...

 

"Everything Aaron Sanchez is awesome"

"Everything is cool when Aaron Sanchez is in the starting rotation of the team"

"Everything is awesome when we're living that hallucinogenic dream"

 

just say no

[saskjayfan]

21 IP of relieving > entire minor league sample of starting

 

sticking to the official saskjayfan motto "sample size is for pussies"

 

If minor league stats were so important snider would be a 30 hr 100 RBI guy, but he's not. The minor leagues are the driving range of baseball. It's where you work on your swing, make tweaks and strengthen your game. It doesn't matter where you hit the ball because you are building a swing before you go play tournament golf where things matter. Sanchez is now in the bigs. He's finally playing meaningful golf and he's doing well. It's early so time will tell., but to say you don't think he will be a good starter because you saw him hit a few loose shots in practice is silly

[saskjayfan]

Sing it with me kids ...

 

"Everything Aaron Sanchez is awesome"

"Everything is cool when Aaron Sanchez is in the starting rotation of the team"

"Everything is awesome when we're living that hallucinogenic dream"

 

I know Sanchez is terrible. He's the luckiest pitcher in the bigs this year. He's clearly a 6 era guy and somehow he's not walking guys like he should, he's getting way more ground ball outs than he should, and more strike outs than he should. Surely he will pitch terrible next time out

[GD]

If minor league stats were so important snider would be a 30 hr 100 RBI guy, but he's not. The minor leagues are the driving range of baseball. It's where you work on your swing, make tweaks and strengthen your game. It doesn't matter where you hit the ball because you are building a swing before you go play tournament golf where things matter. Sanchez is now in the bigs. He's finally playing meaningful golf and he's doing well. It's early so time will tell., but to say you don't think he will be a good starter because you saw him hit a few loose shots in practice is silly

 

for every player who didn't follow his minor league stats you give me i'll give you 5 that did

[GD]

UOTE=GD;407140]for every player who didn't follow his minor league stats you give me i'll give you 5 that did

 

I could give you a nice list of pitchers that their BB/9 didn't follow them to the MLB, probably alot different for hitters though.

 

You could, I'm sure, but I could give you a lot that did too. There are always exceptions but the majority of players follow their minor league numbers.

[GD]

Well your hard lined approach could wiggle a bit. I noticed your distaste for Meyer because of this, that will be interesting to follow.

 

Meh, with Meyer, I just don't see it with him.

[BTS]

What exactly in his big league performances would make you think he would not make an average starter? Or are you hung up on minor league stats that don't matter.

 

Well the minor league performance is very relevant in projecting him going forward, and he wasn't very good in the minors. Give him 60-70 innings next year, and if his numbers are ungodly, consider moving him to the rotation in 2015. If he's just 'good' keep him in the pen.

 

He had very real control problems in the minors that are going to show up eventually. That doesn't just go away when a pitcher hits the majors.

[kgm1]

Well the minor league performance is very relevant in projecting him going forward, and he wasn't very good in the minors. Give him 60-70 innings next year, and if his numbers are ungodly, consider moving him to the rotation in 2015. If he's just 'good' keep him in the pen.

 

He had very real control problems in the minors that are going to show up eventually. That doesn't just go away when a pitcher hits the majors.

 

From his stats he is very likely a reliever. That said i would bring him to camp as a starter and see what he has. Crazy to peg him as a reliever at this point in his development. he can be converted to a reliever at any point . Converting back takes time.

If his walk rate in the spring or at any time during the season spikes again then fine throw him in the BP and let him learn then bring to spring training again as a starter

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

for every player who didn't follow his minor league stats you give me i'll give you 5 that did

 

Stats don't win championships, players do!

[GD]

Stats don't win championships, players do!

 

... and the player post the stats... oh wait sorry I'll make it readable for you:

 

Learn to read *******! lol!

 

You're not the only poster on this board! You don't know s***! lol!

 

Go f*** yourself! lol!

 

Have a great day!

[gruber92]

Colby Rasmus has officially worn out his welcome in T.O

[GD]

We need to troll the Cards board one more time before he leaves.

[jays4life19]

Did that really just happen?

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

f*** Rogers for slurping the most overrated player in history (Jeter). I am so sick of the pity parties that every team throws when a Yankee retires, as if nobody has ever retired before.

[Orgfiller]

So Navarro just stole another base, that happened. Standup.

[JaysFan4Ever]

Did that really just happen?

 

You mean Navarro stealing second? I thought I was in a parallel universe for a moment.

[JaysFan4Ever]

Colby Rasmus has officially worn out his welcome in T.O

 

I was hoping after last year he found his swing and even though I didn't expect a 4.5-5 WAR player he'd at least be able to hold his own, patrol CF well, and at least hit a decent average with some pop. The only thing he seemed to do this year was hit some homers early on and that fell apart like him falling into the wall. Maybe he's doing it intentionally thinking the Jays will give him another one year contract, he'll make up for it next year, then get a nicer deal on the FA or is that too much thought for him?

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

... and the player post the stats... oh wait sorry I'll make it readable for you:

 

Learn to read *******! lol!

 

You're not the only poster on this board! You don't know s***! lol!

 

Go f*** yourself! lol!

 

Have a great day!

 

And players with great stats do not always align to make a winning team!

 

Teams win championships not individual players!

 

Heart and hustle can win as well as stats can !

 

Any team that does not buy into the program will never win it all even with all the talents and stats they provide!

 

Believe it !

[GD]

I need some rum! Lol!

[gruber92]

I was hoping after last year he found his swing and even though I didn't expect a 4.5-5 WAR player he'd at least be able to hold his own, patrol CF well, and at least hit a decent average with some pop. The only thing he seemed to do this year was hit some homers early on and that fell apart like him falling into the wall. Maybe he's doing it intentionally thinking the Jays will give him another one year contract, he'll make up for it next year, then get a nicer deal on the FA or is that too much thought for him?

 

There is no way AA offers him a one year deal,much cheaper options with a Gose / Pillar platoon and the eventual Dalton Pompey calling. Pompey would not be in AAA this year if this wasn't in AA's plans.