Offseason roster thread 2014

[Angrioter]

 

38 Wins + 48 Wins RLT = ~86 Wins

[RealAccountant]

38 Wins + 48 Wins RLT = ~86 Wins

 

I counted 36 wat

[Angrioter]

I counted 36 wat

 

Smoak 1 and 2B D 1

[shortstop]

I'm expecting Delabar to make the team & have a solid year. That'll do wonders for the bullpen depth.

[Laika]

I'm expecting Delabar to make the team & have a solid year.

 

Based on what, exactly?

 

Hopes?

Dreams?

Wishes?

Your own farts?

 

Wilton Lopez is more likely to be a reliable major league arm.

[shortstop]

Based on what, exactly?

 

Hopes?

Dreams?

Wishes?

Your own farts?

 

Wilton Lopez is more likely to be a reliable major league arm.

 

 

time will tell of course but my opinion is he'll be fine and will have that control/velocity that we've come to expect. He admitted in the off-season he had nagging injuries & his off-season regimen wasn't what it should have been.

 

End of the day, it's an opinion, kinda like it was for those, including me, that thought Delabar would be fine entering the 2014 season.

[flafson]

[SaskJaysFan_2]

You can probably add something to left field (Pillar won't be platooning with Saunders) and account for Martin's framing too. I don't really expect Pompey to be an average regular immediately. Between 0.5 and 1.5 is probably the right range.

 

Buehrle at 3 is interesting. Steamer hates him and I'd go with 2.

 

MB won't regress, since he's a finess pitcher anyway. Plus Martin will help him I am sure, and every pitcher. And he's playing for his next contract. So 3 is possible. But like you I'm predicting closer to 2.

[L54]

MB won't regress, since he's a finess pitcher anyway. Plus Martin will help him I am sure, and every pitcher. And he's playing for his next contract. So 3 is possible. But like you I'm predicting closer to 2.

 

Buehrle put up 3.5 WAR last year. Not calling you out, but just showing you that if he's ~2 WAR, that is regression.

[Abomination]

Based on what, exactly?

 

Hopes?

Dreams?

Wishes?

Your own farts?

 

Wilton Lopez is more likely to be a reliable major league arm.

 

How about his 2012 and 2013 where he posted 3.07 and 3.35 xFIP and 2.47, 2.75 SIERA?

[BTS]

Buehrle put up 3.5 WAR last year. Not calling you out, but just showing you that if he's ~2 WAR, that is regression.

 

He probably wasn't quite that good - he's never shown low HR/FB to be a skill.

[RealAccountant]

there is nothing wrong with this starting pitching staff. Its not the fanciest but its decent and reliable.

 

the bullpen on the other hand is weak, very weak.

[L54]

He probably wasn't quite that good - he's never shown low HR/FB to be a skill.

 

I agree, SJF_2 just said he wouldn't regress.

[BTS]

Damn, the Mariners signed Rickie Weeks for $2 million + 2 in potential bonuses. You have to think he would have accepted the same here with 2B wide open. Would have been a perfect signing.

[L54]

Damn, the Mariners signed Rickie Weeks for $2 million + 2 in potential bonuses. You have to think he would have accepted the same here with 2B wide open. Would have been a perfect signing.

 

Cash is tight, worried about Donaldson arb hearing? That's my guess.

[Atothe]

I think they're saving money to add a player during the trade deadline

[RealAccountant]

I think they're saving money to add a player during the trade deadline

 

Well hopefully they will be a couple of games up on the wildcard at the deadline giving them incentive to add

 

Oh wait

[Laika]

How about his 2012 and 2013 where he posted 3.07 and 3.35 xFIP and 2.47, 2.75 SIERA?

 

So we ignore the precipitous drop in velocity at his age?

[BTS]

He's probably best suited right where he is. Platoon DH against lefties/ backup 2B is pretty much covered x2 around here.

 

The team doesn't even have a 2B. Weeks would slot in perfectly against LHP, and you'd think that would be more attractive than maybe DHing against lefties in Seattle (Cruz will get the lion's share of those opportunities), especially given the friendly home park here.

[Abomination]

So we ignore the precipitous drop in velocity at his age?

 

He's still averaging 93-94mph. A drop from 94.7 to 93.8 isn't likely to explain the xFIP and control going insane. A minor injury, however, would.

[BTS]

They have 3-4 replacement level second basemen already. One that could easily take the starting job and run with it.

 

Weeks is not a replacement-level player. Especially if used in a platoon with, say, Kawasaki. And none of Goins, Kawasaki, Izturis, and Santiago are going to easily do anything, let alone average play at 2B in the majors.

[Laika]

He's still averaging 93-94mph. A drop from 94.7 to 93.8 isn't likely to explain the xFIP and control going insane. A minor injury, however, would.

 

He lost over 2mph on the top end. I think its a pretty big deal when the guy's MO as a two pitch reliever is basically 1. Pump heat, 2. Hit them with the split.

 

You can see a lot of it in the plate discipline numbers. It all reads like hitters stopped swinging at fastballs out of the zone, starting murdering fastball strikes, so he threw more splitters but that's not a zone pitch so that explains some of the BB increase.

 

It's kind of a mess with Steve. I'd be very surprised if he was back to his old self, or anything approaching it.

[Angrioter]

The team doesn't even have a 2B. Weeks would slot in perfectly against LHP, and you'd think that would be more attractive than maybe DHing against lefties in Seattle (Cruz will get the lion's share of those opportunities), especially given the friendly home park here.

 

Weeks corner INF and OF.

[Sorrow]

For the people going on about Delabar sometime back in November he talked about how he did not correctly do the weighted ball program last off-season and that led to mechanical issues which lead to injury. He's supposed to be back on the program as it was designed this year so he could definitely be a wild card as a reliever again this year. I'm not holding my breath as it's amazing he ever made the MLB but I won't rule him out either.

[BTS]

If the plan is to have him in the field against lefties, he's replacement level. Any value he gains at the plate he gives back defending 2B.

 

Travis is the one that could take the job and run with it.

 

This... isn't true.

[glory]

Weeks is not a good defensive 2B. We have one infielder who can compensate for bad defense (Reyes), but Weeks can't unless he knows how to time travel and get his bat back to where it was from 2007-2011.

 

Weeks as a utility player off the bench who can hit lefties will have value (if he plays some 3B, OF, 1B, etc), but not sure the Jays need that when they already have Valencia on the roster.

[jays76]

He lost over 2mph on the top end. I think its a pretty big deal when the guy's MO as a two pitch reliever is basically 1. Pump heat, 2. Hit them with the split.

 

You can see a lot of it in the plate discipline numbers. It all reads like hitters stopped swinging at fastballs out of the zone, starting murdering fastball strikes, so he threw more splitters but that's not a zone pitch so that explains some of the BB increase.

 

It's kind of a mess with Steve. I'd be very surprised if he was back to his old self, or anything approaching it.

 

Not very encouraging, super nervous about our pen atm.

[glory]

Delabar has options remaining so he doesn't have to make the team.

 

Cecil, Sanchez, and Loup can be the top 3. Redmond the long man. Then just pick the three best out of the group of 100 (or so) options AA was able to sign to minor league deals or acquire via waivers. Rooting for Matt West and Preston Guilmet, personally, but I think Lopez (if everything is right with him like velocity) could be the best option the currently have from the right side based on his track record.

[Spanky99]

Damn, the Mariners signed Rickie Weeks for $2 million + 2 in potential bonuses. You have to think he would have accepted the same here with 2B wide open. Would have been a perfect signing.

 

Jesus...lol

[RealAccountant]

If the plan is to have him in the field against lefties, he's replacement level. Any value he gains at the plate he gives back defending 2B.

 

Travis is the one that could take the job and run with it.

 

Plus TO isn't usually the destination of choice for oft injured,past their prime types.

 

None of this is reasonable