Aaron Sanchez moved to Bisons' bullpen - callup soon?

[TheHurl]

You ready to fire up the ol' "Fire AA" thread?

 

I've been meaning to add the DFA Valbuena in favour of the Babysitter to that thread anyway.

 

That's the problem with all those relievers on other teams...they never had relieving practice in the minors. AA has a secret weapon. I jest, as this obviously has to do with his pitching limit they put on him...like throwing just 4 innings all those games wasn't controlling his innings. Now the question eventually will end up being asked...why a limit on Sanchez but none on Hutch?

[TheHurl]

Can drabek even throw a strike? If he can't find the plate he's useless.

 

Drabek has walked just 13 in his last 49 minor league innings (35 K's over the same period). Drabek to the pen is an experiment that actually makes sense.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Agree ! If we use Sanchez it should be as a starter because we turfed Happ or demoted or traded him!

[saskjayfan]

Agree ! If we use Sanchez it should be as a starter because we turfed Happ or demoted or traded him! [/quote

 

perhaps they just want to see him at the big league level to see how he handles his emotions at this level ahead of the trade deadline. This is the quickest way to get him here.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I get that but then throw him to the fire starters got to start!

 

See Stroman! Lol

 

Or what would Happ say to that! Lol

[closetjaysfan]

Wow some of the overreaction here is extreme. He gets called up to the Bisons and somehow that translates to the Jays bull pen because a blogger says it *could happen? And somehow that turns this to a fire AA post?

 

The reality is that Sanchez isn't ready for the big time but maybe a change of scenery will put some spark in him.

[jayswin11]

MAybe they see him as closer material to replace Janssen next year? Be like Rosenthal in St.Louis.

[GeorgiaPeach]

MAybe they see him as closer material to replace Janssen next year? Be like Rosenthal in St.Louis.

 

Crossing fingers Alex has a deal in place to move Janssen

[Angrioter]

Crossing fingers Alex has a deal in place to move Janssen

 

Janssen for Snider (Wallace, Gose, Snider, Mills)

[KingKat]

Wow some of the overreaction here is extreme. He gets called up to the Bisons and somehow that translates to the Jays bull pen because a blogger says it *could happen? And somehow that turns this to a fire AA post?

 

The reality is that Sanchez isn't ready for the big time but maybe a change of scenery will put some spark in him.

 

A blogger? You mean Blair? Now Blair isn't exactly Rosenthal but I think he can legitimatelly be called a reporter. And he's not just reporting on the fact that he's with the Bisons (which is nothing new) but the fact that he's been transferred to the Bisons bullpen for the purposes of the callup. Now maybe Blair is full of s***. That's possible but you're stretching the truth a fair bit to make that point.

[Angrioter]

Holy f***......for the last time, IT WAS PLANNED!!

 

Guess the song thread

 

Liar, lawyer, mirror, show me what's the difference?

Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent.

[GeorgiaPeach]

Holy f***......for the last time, IT WAS PLANNED!!

 

Link bro?? Otherwise it wasn't planned.

[Angrioter]

Aaron Sanchez debut

IP, 3 hits, 2 ER, 2 K{s

[GeorgiaPeach]

I can't link quotes from the Jays talk from the Suns paper, I've already tried searching, take my word or don't, Eliott has both Gibby and AA quoting this all season. There was also an article on "the plan" where Sanchez said he didn't care, about relieving to help the Jays by a local NH or Buffalo affiliate, I can't find it, although I know Norris is next and AA referred to the Cards, believe me or not, IDGAF!!!

 

Just f***ing around with you bud.

 

Now accept my trade offer.

[Angrioter]

At least he didnt walk anybody, he also threw 17 of 26 pitches for strikes.

 

17/26 = +35 balls

[ElNik2013]

What was Sanchez's IP limit this season? He had 86 IP in 2013 and was at 98 coming into tonight.

 

Anyway...

[saskjayfan]

Aaron Sanchez debut

IP, 3 hits, 2 ER, 2 K{s

 

just checked...first hit by shane victorino was a ground ball single. 2nd batter struck out. Travis shaw then had a ground ball single to left and Glenn's throwing error allowed vicotrino to score and shaw to get to third when he should have been at first. Carlos Rivero hit a line drive single and scored the runner and then the next batter struck out and the last batter struck out. There should have only been one run scored if not for Glenn's throwing error.

 

3 singles..2 of the ground ball variety. 17/26 were strikes, 2 ks....sounds like it really wasn't that bad of inning after all.

[GD]

Also, Victorino and Shaw are MLB level hitters, fwiw.

[Frenchsoup]

just checked...first hit by shane victorino was a ground ball single. 2nd batter struck out. Travis shaw then had a ground ball single to left and Glenn's throwing error allowed vicotrino to score and shaw to get to third when he should have been at first. Carlos Rivero hit a line drive single and scored the runner and then the next batter struck out and the last batter struck out. There should have only been one run scored if not for Glenn's throwing error.

 

3 singles..2 of the ground ball variety. 17/26 were strikes, 2 ks....sounds like it really wasn't that bad of inning after all.

 

Yeah but the real jays do s*** like this all the time to.

[G-Snarls]

Also, Victorino and Shaw are MLB level hitters, fwiw.

 

And it's one inning, from the bullpen or not

[saskjayfan]

That doesn't make any sense, since he only K'ed 2 and you have 3 Ks listed, and if the run wouldn't have scored without the error, it would be an unearned run (recreate the inning sans error).

 

When did he pitch? The game's actually on NESN here and I missed him throwing (only watched an inning or two here and there). Watching Fatty McFatster Zagurski getting hammered, with Drabek warming up.

 

I did indeed type an error...I should have typed the next batter struck out and the following one lined out. Thanks for noticing.

[saskjayfan]

Just checked myself ... From the description, the last out was a line out, and potentially what could have happened with the throw is that the runner may have advanced to 2nd on the throw, and taken 3rd due to the error, so it was determined he would have scored on the subsequent single. Don't know for sure, though.

 

whatever happened, three singles rarely result in 2 runs. 2 of the singles were ground balls that found the hole. Angrioter posted 3 hits, 2 earned runs. I thought ahh..crap...not a great outing...but when you looked I actually looked at it there were no doubles a throwing error and 2 of the 3 hits were ground balls. That's not a bad outing at all. It was an unlucky outing. If the kid throws strikes, he will be fine.

[saskjayfan]

The problem is HE CAN'T THROW STRIKES.

 

17 of his 26 pitches were for strikes. Someone posted that he has had 5 walks in his last 20 innings which is good. Do you really believe that he can never improve? What do you think he's been doing all year and last year. He's making the adjustments to become a better player. That's what the minors are for. He's 21 years old, not 24 or 25. 21 might seem old to you, but I can assure you it's not. Next outing out he may walk 3 batters...who knows. Time will tell if he's actually improving or just having a decent stretch.

[BTS]

17 of his 26 pitches were for strikes. Someone posted that he has had 5 walks in his last 20 innings which is good. Do you really believe that he can never improve? What do you think he's been doing all year and last year. He's making the adjustments to become a better player. That's what the minors are for. He's 21 years old, not 24 or 25. 21 might seem old to you, but I can assure you it's not. Next outing out he may walk 3 batters...who knows. Time will tell if he's actually improving or just having a decent stretch.

 

He's 22.

[Orgfiller]

Also, Victorino and Shaw are MLB level hitters, fwiw.

 

Is Victorino rehabbing from injury? Just wondering.

[TheHurl]

Spanky is right they have always had an undisclosed innings limit on Sanchez. I've read this for months. However I also heard they had one on Hutch, which they seem to be willing to ignore for the sake of big league hope for this year. Why one and not the other?

 

As for those saying this is the Cards method...my joke was about the Jays making the move in the minors like there is some sort of adjustment period moving to the pen. Just let him start with an innings limit in the minors regardless of what you intend to do with him in the majors.

[saskjayfan]

He's 22.

 

well from briefly glazing over the sacrificing a virgin thread, I assumed he was younger. I guess Mr. King schooled the strawman. Sanchez will never be able to throw strikes. Samardzjia couldn't throw strikes at one point either and he turned out pretty good, but he's likely atypical.

[GD]

Is Victorino rehabbing from injury? Just wondering.

 

Yeah, he was out for a while.

[TheHurl]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/aaron-sanchez-and-the-trevor-rosenthal-experiment/#more-156585

[G-Snarls]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/aaron-sanchez-and-the-trevor-rosenthal-experiment/#more-156585

 

Sanchez, 2014 late-season help

The Trevor Rosenthal experiment, as it were, would see Sanchez join the big club late in the season for help in the bullpen, the only way he could possibly contribute this season. The Blue Jays bullpen has been fine – they rank 16th in baseball in workload and wins above replacement – but a 4.39 ERA for the relief corps, 27th in the league, calls for reinforcements.