Around Baseball 2014

[Spanky__99]

Still has two months until he is 25

 

Crazy, he's considered a seasoned vet now. *shakes head* I was way off here.

[Stangstag]

You're outlook is mine on said situation, but MLB Central, etc, has now put the Padres as the "BEST" off-season thus far, they've stirred up a ton of talk, and simply looks like PR moves to me, for the old school casuals, they'll win in ticket sales, no doubt, on the field, not so much, IMO.

 

Its alot like the Jays 2012 offseason

[Spanky__99]

Its alot like the Jays 2012 offseason

 

Indeed, but the Jays were better.

[Brownie19]

Casey McGehee to the Giants for two low level pitchers

 

I find it humourous when Rotoworld says McGehee is coming off a terrific season....

[Eddiek19]

Kang posted for 5 mill, team will accept

[King]

Uh oh.......

 

"Agent representing Trea Turner unhappy he’s in limbo after Nationals’ three-team trade"

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2014/12/19/agent-representing-trea-turner-unhappy-hes-in-limbo-after-nationals-three-team-trade/

 

The potentially awkward situation between the Padres and the Nationals’ so-called “player to be named later,” widely reported to be shortstop prospect Trea Turner, isn’t sitting well with the player’s agent.

 

Jeff Berry and CAA, the agency that represents the 2014 first-round pick, are unhappy that Turner can’t join the Nationals until June because of a league rule that states a player who was drafted can’t officially be traded and join a new team until a year after signing.

 

The Nationals were part of a three-team, 11-player trade with the Rays and Padres that was officially announced Friday. The Nationals sent Steven Souza Jr. and minor league left-hander Travis Ott to the Rays in exchange for pitching prospect Joe Ross and the player to be named. But the trade was agreed upon on Wednesday night, and many media outlets, including The Post, reported that the player to be named later would be Turner, the 13th overall pick in this June’s draft.

 

Among the concerns about Turner while he waits in the Padres’ system until June: What if he gets hurt? Will the Padres treat him the same as their own prospects? Why must he remain with an organization that doesn’t want him? Will his development be stunted from the Padres’ spring training until June?

 

As a result, Berry and CAA are looking into any possible way they can help Turner and fix the situation, including potentially filing a grievance, a person familiar with the situation said. Berry’s unhappiness and possible actions were first reported by FOX Sports on Friday night.

 

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The official announcement by the teams didn’t name the extra player. But Turner’s name emerged in many media outlets, citing unnamed sources. Even MLB Network showed Turner’s name, and Minor League Baseball’s official Twitter account did, too.

 

General Manager Mike Rizzo admitted Friday afternoon in a conference call that the situation the Nationals were facing was complex and rare in baseball history. He didn’t name Turner and declined to speak more in detail about the “player-to-be-named” process.

 

“We’re going to take a player from the list of the Padres,” Rizzo said. “We’re going to watch him. There’s a trust factor that’s involved with us and the Padres. It’s a unique situation that hasn’t been done before. I’ve never done it before, and I’ve been doing this thing a long time. We’re going to trust each other and do what’s right by the player.”

 

That still concerns Berry and CAA. Turner knows that he’s been identified as the “player to be named.” The Padres got everything they needed out of Turner already.

 

“Regardless of the sham press releases being put out by teams, there is no Player to be Named. There is only the player already named, and that player is Trea Turner,” Berry told FOX Sports. “Trea is one of the top prospects in baseball and on a fast track to the Major Leagues. In this case, the plan to ‘trust us’ is not enough when it comes to a player’s well-being and career. Given the circumstances and the undoubtedly negative impact on Trea Turner, for the teams involved and Major League Baseball to endorse and approve this trade is not only unethical but also goes against the very spirit of the Minor League Uniform Player Contract that players sign when they first enter professional baseball.

 

“That contract requires a player to ‘serve the club diligently and faithfully.’ Shouldn’t the clubs and the controlling parties at Major League Baseball be held to the same standard?”

 

Berry declined to comment further to The Post late Friday night. A Nationals spokeswoman also declined to comment. Requests for comment late Friday from spokesmen from the players’ union and the Padres weren’t immediately returned.

 

Players that aren’t eligible to be traded at the time deals are made have routinely been included as a “player to be named” in trades. But the length of Turner’s potential wait and the fact that his name became public are the concerns here. The union, agents and league haven’t sought to change the collective bargaining agreement, but Turner’s case could spark interest in doing so.

 

Some executives and a former farm director acknowledged the potential awkwardness for the player and how the situation should be handled with care. One executive even suggested that the rule be changed.

 

It is extremely rare, but players have been loaned to a team before a trade became official. The Braves and Mets did that for three months in 1997, according to Baseball America. A loan would likely require league approval.

 

Good to know they have the same questions the rest of us do.

[Eddiek19]

Turner has a definite case there imo

[glory]

I'm going to guess the Padres won the bid for Kang.

 

It's been a few hours since they made a move, way too long without doing something, so it would make sense.

[Eddiek19]

Which would mean Takahashi wouldn't be a Padre hopefully?

[Ziggyy108]

How does this Jung Ho Kang guy compare to this Takahashi guy

[Spanky__99]

How does this Jung Ho Kang guy compare to this Takahashi guy

 

Seriously?

[Stangstag]

How does this Jung Ho Kang guy compare to this Takahashi guy

 

Kang is supposed to be a much better hitter. He is viewed as more of a 3B or 2B

[Angrioter]

How does this Jung Ho Kang guy compare to this Takahashi guy

 

Kang = Gyorko

Toritani = Aoki+Walks

[TBJ12]

Seriously?

 

Seems like a legit question to me. Most of us don't know a whole lot about either of these guys.

[Chappy]

Seems like a legit question to me. Most of us don't know a whole lot about either of these guys.

 

Yup, no harm in asking, it is a forum after all.

[KingKat]

Seems like a legit question to me. Most of us don't know a whole lot about either of these guys.

 

I don't think that's the issue. It's probably more the calling Toritani, Takahashi thing.

[43211234]

How does this Jung Ho Kang guy compare to this Takahashi guy

 

Who knows? They're both shortstops that are likely to move to 2B in the majors. The offensive environments of their respective leagues are very different but Kang clearly has a lot more power. Toritani seems to have a solid approach/draws a lot of walks. Kang is probably the higher profile right now and he also has the more fun name, though Toritani is no slouch in that department.

[labadee]

Yup, no harm in asking, it is a forum after all.

 

I think he was referring to the fact that he called him Takahashi instead of you know, his real name Toritani. Let's just slap some random japanese sounding name to him

[Chappy]

I think he was referring to the fact that he called him Takahashi instead of you know, his real name Toritani. Let's just slap some random japanese sounding name to him

 

People make mistakes, especially when it's players they have no idea about. I don't hold that against them. It's not like he was more mocking the player, seemed like a legit error.

[labadee]

People make mistakes, especially when it's players they have no idea about. I don't hold that against them. It's not like he was more mocking the player, seemed like a legit error.

 

yeah, you're probably right

[GD]

I think he was referring to the fact that he called him Takahashi instead of you know, his real name Toritani. Let's just slap some random japanese sounding name to him

 

His first name is Takashi which is at least a reasonable mistake

[KingKat]

Who knows? They're both shortstops that are likely to move to 2B in the majors. The offensive environments of their respective leagues are very different but Kang clearly has a lot more power. Toritani seems to have a solid approach/draws a lot of walks. Kang is probably the higher profile right now and he also has the more fun name, though Toritani is no slouch in that department.

 

I didn't realize Kang was a shortstop for some reason I thought he was already a 2B. In that case, I guess he fits the Jays needs about as well as Toritani. Jays aren't looking for a starting SS just a 2B who can slide there.

[BTS]

So can someone tell me more about this Tamagotchi guy?

[GD]

I trust Toritani's numbers a lot more. Korea's environment seems, well.. Absurd, lol. Although I guess Eric Thames with reportedly solid defense up the middle is a solid enough investment for $6m although the 4 year term isn't a great fit with us. Would rather Toritani, really hope we nab him.

[GD]

So can someone tell me more about this Tamagotchi guy?

 

lmao

 

Aoki at SS/2B for probably a bit cheaper. Boras client interestingly enough.

[Chappy]

So can someone tell me more about this Tamagotchi guy?

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi

[GD]

Now that Brian Wilson has been released and we wouldn't need to cover his salary he may be worth a flier if he's not the best reliever we bring in.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Now that Brian Wilson has been released and we wouldn't need to cover his salary he may be worth a flier if he's not the best reliever we bring in.

 

Would he? What happens if he is the best reliever we bring in? He is not a flyer then or he gets down graded to Anchor!

Edited December 20, 2014 by BigBounceyBlueBalls

[Deadpool]

Who knows? They're both shortstops that are likely to move to 2B in the majors. The offensive environments of their respective leagues are very different but Kang clearly has a lot more power. Toritani seems to have a solid approach/draws a lot of walks. Kang is probably the higher profile right now and he also has the more fun name, though Toritani is no slouch in that department.

 

This is key. Though, people have been having fun with Tzatziki's name so far...

[GD]

Would he? What happens if he is the best reliever we bring in? Is not a flyer then or he gets down graded to Anchor!

 

Then our bullpen is gonna suck, lol