fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 For mobile users: Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Source: Ellis agrees with #STLCards, 1-year deal, pending physical. @dgoold first to say deal was close. Another 2B off board for #Yankees. Direct link
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Fat Greek still in bed I'm glad the fat greek slept in...didn't want ellis anyways...
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 What are Cashman and Anthopoulos thinking??????!!! This wasn't my preferred target but it just seems like Yankees and Jays are under appreciating their needs at second base.
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 What are Cashman and Anthopoulos thinking??????!!! Pitching
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Pitching That's exactly right Narrow minded focus Except neither team has picked up any of that either I know there's more time but...
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 That's exactly right Narrow minded focus Don't you worry! Carroll is available and Michael Young is FA! Two old-ass vets to play 2B for the 3rd straight year!
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 "Hey Mark, Alex A here, how about coming to Toronto to be our starting 2B for a year or two?" "lol" *click*
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Like why the f*** would Mark Ellis want to come to a clusterf*** team up in Canada and play on plastic/cement when he's 37 years old and the Cards are offering him a better shot at a WS?
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 AA was to busy taking a dump. f***.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Playing time? I dunno, maybe, but I think a lot of vets would rather platoon on a really good team than start on a team that just won 74 games.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 What a smart f***ing team.
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 What a smart f***ing team. And if both Ellis and Wong are on fire, move Ellis at the trade deadline to fill a hole.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 And if both Ellis and Wong are on fire, move Ellis at the trade deadline to fill a hole. To the Jays, of course, when Goins is hitting .165 And make them overpay F me I have a hard time feeling anything positive about next season
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Were the Blue Jays even in on either Ellis or Infante? We'll have to wait for next off season's book to find out. Maybe trading Rasmus would return a SP and young 2B. We'll see, hopefully Ackley/Fanklin+ and sign one of Garza, Jimenez, Santana with the savings? Wait and see is the name of the game.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Well that's it for the 2B FA market. With Anthopolous and Cashman still holding their dicks
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 It's a damn shame Matt Carpenter will lose 2B eligibility after this year.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Updating the rest of the 2B options left: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=c,4,6,23,37,38,11,-1,34,35,40,41,-1,50,61,-1,55,56,203,199,58&season=2013&month=0&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=2430,9015,9810,4251,9219,4229,4316,791,5133,166,3442,1849&sort=19,d
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 So over pay a bit then AA refuses to overpay players to come here. This move was so obvious. Overpay in cash makes sense but it's too late for that Via trade, no.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Brian Roberts is still better than what we have. Even 50 starts of steady D and average hitting from him would help.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 With Anthopolous and Cashman still holding their dicks Maybe the delay is that they're trying to find them?
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Phillips or bust. At least the Yankees have KJ as an option. We have an org guy and a -2 WAR utility man.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Brian Roberts is still better than what we have. Even 50 starts of steady D and average hitting from him would help. I'd be inclined to agree, contingent on whatever the hell his medicals would look like. Contract stipulation: no head first slides.
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 To the Jays, of course, when Goins is hitting .165 And make them overpay F me I have a hard time feeling anything positive about next season Don't worry, AA's right on this! I can't wait for our soon-to-retire-40-year-old 2B replacement! DEM VETERIN PREZENTS What hole? lol Something will come up . At the very least they can upgrade the BP and/or get a good prospect while their at it
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 This is why you should never lose sight that the main goal is adding wins. While AA has been focused on pitching, the 2B market had dried up and still no pitching so now it's looking more and more like the 2011 off-season. Are there only two options for this team? Overpay in trades or hardly do anything?
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Playing time? for what? His 39 year old Free Agency? Not every player wants to be a starter, especially one that got his first taste of a playoff run since 2003.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Phillips or bust. At least the Yankees have KJ as an option. We have an org guy and a -2 WAR utility man. Yeah, I'm with you here. Trading for Phillips + SP is realistic and probably the best option left. Ugh.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 You know what I was thinking, how come Mozeliak's name never comes up when people are talking about the best GMs in baseball? You always hear names like Friedman, Dombrowski, Daniels, Epstein, I hear very little praise for the guy that's built the absolute best organization top-to-bottom. The Cardinals are a f***ing juggernaut. Holliday, Bourjos, Craig, Carpenter, Peralta, Jones, Adams, Molina, Wong/Ellis Miller, Wainwright, Wacha, Lynn, Garcia They literally don't have a hole anywhere on their team, and have arguably the best farm system in the majors to pair with it.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 This is why you should never lose sight that the main goal is adding wins. While AA has been focused on pitching, the 2B market had dried up and still no pitching so now it's looking more and more like the 2011 off-season. Are there only two options for this team? Overpay in trades or hardly do anything? I think a lot of attentive fans are starting to notice some questionable compartmentalized thinking from Anthopoulos. He things the offense is fine and he only needs to add pitching. He thinks the team power is fine so he only needs to add contact hitters, or speed. etc. etc. etc. He definitely does not seem to think of individual players as holistic run machines.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 You know what I was thinking, how come Mozeliak's name never comes up when people are talking about the best GMs in baseball? He definitely does, and has been for a while. You're probably not reading the right people.
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