Jays targetting Jeff Samardzija and/or Ryan Hanigan

[JugglingPitches]

•The Blue Jays plan to turn to the trade market before trying to sign any big free agents, writes Shi Davidi of SportsNet.ca. The Jays appear likely to try to deal for Jeff Samardzija of the Cubs, and they already asked about Reds catcher Ryan Hanigan, who may have become superfluous when Cincinnati signed Brayan Pena. They may have also considered a run at Astros catcher Jason Castro. Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos notes that the Jays are not likely to deal veteran players for prospects. They could, however, trade catcher J.P. Arencibia, or a reliever.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/toronto_blue_jays/index.html

[Sammy225]

Everyone that is mentioned besides Castro makes me really cringe.

[G-Snarls]

Uninspiring targets

[Angrioter]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/toronto_blue_jays/index.html

 

and Arroyo, and Ubaldo, and Rui, and Salty, and una puta

[G-Snarls]

and Arroyo, and Ubaldo, and Rui, and Salty, and una puta

 

They can't get any of these players

 

Buck won't be able to pronounce the names!!!

[Sammy225]

They can't get any of these players

 

Buck won't be able to pronounce the names!!!

 

Oh f*** if we did end up with Samardzija Buck may have an aneurysm.

[GNick]

Sounds like they going for an innings eater instead of quality by targeting a Jeff Samardzija

[eastcoastjaysfan]

How can you "target" a backup catcher?

[GeorgiaPeach]

Oh f*** if we did end up with Samardzija Buck may have an aneurysm.

 

Buck's the new Harry Caray

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Jeff Samardzija is not that good and only has two years of team control remaining.

 

Why the hell would we target him?

[GeorgiaPeach]

Sounds like they going for an innings eater instead of quality by targeting a Jeff Samardzija

 

What?

[Sammy225]

Jeff Samardzija is not that good and only has two years of team control remaining.

 

Why the hell would we target him?

 

He is a #3 #4 rotation guy apparently that's all we got lol. He is a good strikeout pitcher but gets hit around a lot and can have control problems. Not the kind of guy I would want in our division.

[KingKat]

Jeff Samardzija is not that good and only has two years of team control remaining.

 

Why the hell would we target him?

 

Because there's no point in targetting players that won't fit in the payroll (most free agents) or for which we don't have the necessary prospects (Price).

[G-Snarls]

Sounds like they going for an innings eater instead of quality by targeting a Jeff Samardzija

 

218 acceptable innings pitched in 2013 in a good division

[HERPDERP]

At what point is the f***ing idiot running this team going to realize that trading for one/two years of control is not a sustainable way to build a team? He's already done it with Johnson and Dickey with utterly disastrous results, and now he wants to do it again with Samardzija? This is the polar opposite of the way good teams manage themselves - the goal should be to trade these pieces way for youth a year or two before they walk.

 

You keep criticizing him for trying to make a move and then you turn around and criticize him for making one.

 

You want someone who is controllable? Well then are you willing to give up Sanchez/Stroman? I don't know what fantasy world you live in but you gotta give up something to get something.

 

You can't get a controllable, decent starter by shipping away scrubs

[Abomination]

You keep criticizing him for trying to make a move and then you turn around and criticize him for making one.

 

You want someone who is controllable? Well then are you willing to give up Sanchez/Stroman? I don't know what fantasy world you live in but you gotta give up something to get something.

 

You can't get a controllable, decent starter by shipping away scrubs

 

BTS is basically saying that we should be shipping off guys like Bautista for good young talent as they near the end of their contracts, rather than trying to acquire guys near the end of their contracts.

[KingKat]

At what point is the f***ing idiot running this team going to realize that trading for one/two years of control is not a sustainable way to build a team? He's already done it with Johnson and Dickey with utterly disastrous results, and now he wants to do it again with Samardzija? This is the polar opposite of the way good teams manage themselves - the goal should be to trade these pieces way for youth a year or two before they walk.

 

Well he's backed himself into a corner. He say the priority (again) is to acquire starting pitching. Who else does he have the means to acquire? Stroman doesn't land you an ace, he lands you a guy like Samaridzija.

[z3r0s]

28 teams thought the price on Johnson was too steep. 28 teams thought the price on Dickey was too steep. If we acquire Samardzija, 28 teams will have though the cost on him was too steep.

 

Using that logic, no trade makes sense. No team should feel good after they trade for David Price because when they do, it will be the case that every other team thought the cost was too great... so they overpaid. That's not how it works.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

There are SO MANY GOOD PITCHERS WHO WILL BE AVAIALBLE ON 1-3 YEAR CONTRACTS

 

WHY IS HE SO FOCUSED ON TRADES.

 

JESUS CHRIST LIKE LITERALLY NOTHING BAD COULD COME FROM OFFERING AJ BURNETT 2/24 OR COLON 2/14 OR SOMETHING REASONABLE.

[jaysblue]

Sounds like they going for an innings eater instead of quality by targeting a Jeff Samardzija

 

?

 

Samardzija was great last season. 214 K's last season and is still under 30.

[jaysblue]

IMO Stroman doesn't even land you Samardzija. It takes Stroman and 1-2 other guys from our top-15. I actually really like Samardzija, but he just doesn't make any sense unless the FO is panicking in an effort to win in 2014 at all costs.

 

I like Samardzija as well, though like you said the cost isn't really worth it. The Jays are better off at looking at free agency instead.

[jaysblue]

There are SO MANY GOOD PITCHERS WHO WILL BE AVAIALBLE ON 1-3 YEAR CONTRACTS

 

WHY IS HE SO FOCUSED ON TRADES.

 

JESUS CHRIST LIKE LITERALLY NOTHING BAD COULD COME FROM OFFERING AJ BURNETT 2/24 OR COLON 2/14 OR SOMETHING REASONABLE.

 

Burnett is staying with the Pirates or he retires. I'm not a fan of Colon to be honest, I'm sure the Jays sign him when he's about to burnout.

[jaysblue]

If the Jays do trade for Samardzija, they may ask for an extension window like they did with Dickey. If they'd be able to lock him up on a reasonable contract, I'd be open to trading for Samardzija.

[BarrysSyringe]

I like Samardzija as well, though like you said the cost isn't really worth it. The Jays are better off at looking at free agency instead.

 

He would get obliterated in the East especially pitching in the rogers centre atleast 14 times

[jaysblue]

He would get obliterated in the East especially pitching in the rogers centre atleast 14 times

 

His stuff is legit. He's actually the type of NL pitcher I can see succeeding in the AL East. I'd take him over any current Jays starter right now.

[Chappy]

He would get obliterated in the East especially pitching in the rogers centre atleast 14 times

 

Based on what? He is actually a good pitcher. Would be a significant boost to our rotation, the only real issue is the cost of trading for him.

[z3r0s]

Don't be pedantic. The point was that AA hasn't stumbled across some market inefficiency here. No GM should strive to be the guy who is repeatedly willing to punt more of the future for immediate fixes than his peers.

 

I don't see how that is being pedantic at all. Nor did i say it was some uber market inefficiency to exploit.

 

You're the one who was making a statement about the trade market being an efficient market and it quite simply isn't that either. Its a really variable market in terms of efficiency.

[Chappy]

I would question his motivations for extending right now unless he's guaranteed like 3 FA years at like 15 per.

 

I really wish they hadn't sold the farm last year. If AA had kept the prospects, Samardzija would make a lot of sense. We could move something like Sanchez + Nicolino + Hechavarria for Samardzija and still have a deep system. He'd be an interesting anchor for a staff that's about to break in Stroman, Syndergaard, and Hutchison. As things stand right now, I'd guess we'd be looking at something like Stroman/Sanchez + Nolin + 3rd piece, and the system really can't absorb that hit, especially if there's no extension.

 

From AA's perspective it's probably more important to him to win now at all costs and worry about the future later. As it stands if this team isn't playing meaningful games down the stretch, he may very we'll be out of a job.

[DuckDuckGose]

I would say Samar is a #2.

 

He's a 3/4 IMO as well, if only to avoid the "front of the rotation guy" label. Kind of like how Shaun Marcum was a #2 on the Jays but best used as a 3/4.

 

On a side note if I were AA I'd try to add Starlin Castro to any Samardzija package.

[DuckDuckGose]

BTS is basically saying that we should be shipping off guys like Bautista for good young talent as they near the end of their contracts, rather than trying to acquire guys near the end of their contracts.

 

AA is buying high on the type of players he should be trying to sell.