Trade Deadline Thread

[TheHurl]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6589/dylan-bundy

 

ESPN's Buster Olney was told by an Orioles source that there's "no chance" the team would trade Dylan Bundy.

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reported earlier Monday that the O's would be willing to listen on Bundy, but Olney says Baltimore knows they would be selling low on the top prospect since he's recovering from Tommy John surgery. Bundy won't be an option for the Orioles until the second half of 2014, at the earliest. Jul 29 - 7:47 PM

[flafson]

Yes, 100%. Bark Muehrle is a non-asset.

 

Kind of sad that the Jays best current SP is literally a non-asset. Also kind of sad that AA is so inept that he needs to spend 18M per season just to see "league average SP" type returns.

 

If i was contending, i would get him.

 

He is guaranteed to give you innings, most of them are quality.

[GD]

What do y'all think about Ian Kennedy as a buy low?

 

Why they would consider trading him under any circumstance is beyond me.

 

They know more about his arm injuries than anyone else, most likely.

[TheHurl]

Why they would consider trading him under any circumstance is beyond me.

 

Still a huge asset...and it's not like TJS is a guarantee recovery. Pass the risk on to someone else. I wouldn't do it if I were Baltimore, but if it were a pitching rich franchise I'd be shopping him for sure.

[TheHurl]

Beachy got rocked in his return tonight. Haven't heard about the velocity yet but in the minors it was reported to be right in line with his 2011 velocity (but his control was a huge issue). He's a great buy low for the right team

[GD]

I'd be very interested if it didn't take a premium prospect. Kennedy's been extremely durable and is probably a true-talent ~4.20 ERA guy in the AL East. Find a taker for Buehrle and replace him with Kennedy.

 

My D-Backs friend said Sierra (Kubel replacement) and Jenkins/Gab would work. I like it.

 

Beachy got rocked in his return tonight. Haven't heard about the velocity yet but in the minors it was reported to be right in line with his 2011 velocity (but his control was a huge issue). He's a great buy low for the right team

 

Wait would they actually trade Beachy?

[Convo]

I think our most valuable relief-commodity is Casey Janssen... several consecutive very good seasons plus the ability to close-out ball games. With regards to Darren Oliver, I don't know what a team would want with a 42 year old reliever who's not having a very good season?

[TheHurl]

Wait would they actually trade Beachy?

 

He didn't perform great in a lot of very short rehab outings, performed very poorly in his first outing...he's never been a guy that goes overly deep into games so maybe it's the smartest thing they could do. Although he's got options so if they feel he's not ready he can start next year in the minors. His fastball despite only average velocity was a huge plus pitch because of his command of it and it's plus life. I find after a layoff the velocity might come back but movement on a fastball might not. Will be interesting to look at his charts over this start and the one later this week against Philly.

[jaysblue]

What do y'all think about Ian Kennedy as a buy low?

 

 

 

They know more about his arm injuries than anyone else, most likely.

 

Just trade the D'Backs a bunch of relievers and they'd likely trade Ian Kennedy lol. Kidding aside, I'm sure Kevin Towers would look to add an improved starter over Kennedy, however at the same time the D'backs want to clear payroll so adding Buerhrle is likely out of the question.

 

For sure the D'Backs would take a serious look at Janssen and other relievers like Delabar and Oliver. Towers loves bullpen arms more than AA.

[jaysblue]

What do y'all think about Ian Kennedy as a buy low?

 

 

 

They know more about his arm injuries than anyone else, most likely.

 

Just trade the D'Backs a bunch of relievers and they'd likely trade Ian Kennedy lol. Kidding aside, I'm sure Kevin Towers would look to add an improved starter over Kennedy, however at the same time the D'backs want to clear payroll so adding Buerhrle is likely out of the question.

 

For sure the D'Backs would take a serious look at Janssen and other relievers like Delabar and Oliver. Towers loves bullpen arms more than AA.

[jaysblue]

I'd be very interested if it didn't take a premium prospect. Kennedy's been extremely durable and is probably a true-talent ~4.20 ERA guy in the AL East. Find a taker for Buehrle and replace him with Kennedy.

 

If the D'Backs are close to getting Peavy, then I could see them shipping off Kennedy to clear some payroll.

[Laika]

The D-Backs probably should trade Ian Kennedy.

 

Kennedy (2 more arb years; 0.7 WAR in 117 IP; flyball pitcher in Arizona!)

Miley (4 more cheap years; 0.9 WAR in 128 IP)

Corbin (tons of cheap control and apparently really good)

Delgado (tons of cheap control and surprisingly effective through 50 innings)

Skaggs (was top prospect before year, tons of control left)

Cahill (20M through 2015; 0.6 WAR in 96 IP)

McCarthy (10M in 2014; 1 WAR in 66 IP)

Hudson (still exists; 26 years old)

Bradley (step back in AA but still probably really awesome)

Chafin (young depth)

Holmberg (young depth)

 

It makes a lot of sense for them to trade two of Cahill, Kennedy, and McCarthy right now. They could save 16-20M in yearly payroll without missing a beat.

 

Hard to trade Cahill and McCarthy when they're hurt though. That SP chart is also really deep, but not without it's doubts.

[KSaw]

They're trying to trade Kennedy, with little success so far. Ya know, I sometimes hate Toronto sports media. There's been plenty of mention of Jays players on out of town broadcasts and radio shows. Our lovely print media does nothing with it.

 

Anyway, from just listening, Cleveland has interest in Cecil and Lincoln but none in Oliver. Atlanta likes both Cecil and Oliver. Baltimore likes and have apparently asked on Bautista and Bundy, plus, plus is not out of the question though that kind of move is thought to be very unlikely. Boston like Janssen but nothing is expected to happen there.

 

When Oliver's name got dropped, a PTBNL was considered to be the cost.

[KSaw]

Why they would consider trading him under any circumstance is beyond me.

 

For a legit difference maker to take a shot at the World Series, they'd trade him and more if the player was more than a rental.

[JaysFanToTheEnd]

They're trying to trade Kennedy, with little success so far. Ya know, I sometimes hate Toronto sports media. There's been plenty of mention of Jays players on out of town broadcasts and radio shows. Our lovely print media does nothing with it.

 

Anyway, from just listening, Cleveland has interest in Cecil and Lincoln but none in Oliver. Atlanta likes both Cecil and Oliver. Baltimore likes and have apparently asked on Bautista and Bundy, plus, plus is not out of the question though that kind of move is thought to be very unlikely. Boston like Janssen but nothing is expected to happen there.

 

When Oliver's name got dropped, a PTBNL was considered to be the cost.

 

If any of that is true and AA does nothing...

 

AA is either stubborn or delusional. Maybe both while being a completely incompetent idiot.

 

This team has way too many problems for it to be a contender. And for him and Beeston to just do nothing and expect next year to be the year...smh

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

AA will stand pat because he's a dumbass.

[Angrioter]

 

Who's next?

[jays4life19]

Aybar, Kendrick reportedly available …

 

Scott Downs has long been considered to be the most likely player the Angels move this month, and as someone familiar with their situation said recently: “If they make only one trade this month, I wouldn’t be surprised.”

 

Long-term, though, the Angels know they have to improve their rotation. They know the best way to do that is to trade for starting pitching, and they know their best assets to trade — given the state of their farm system — are offensive players. Which is why the recent report by Yahoo! Sports’ Jeff Passan, who said Sunday that the Angels have made Howie Kendrick and Erick Aybar available in exchange for a cost-controlled starting pitcher, falls right in line with their plan.

 

Such a big trade may have to wait until the offseason, when there’s more time and more teams can get in the mix. But you never know who will get desperate this time of year and swoop in with a great offer.

 

The potential free-agent market isn’t necessarily flush with starting-pitching talent. Ervin Santana, Ricky Nolasco, A.J. Burnett, Bronson Arroyo, Matt Garza and Vargas are the only names that really stick out — and the Angels already have more than $131 million in salary commitments for 2014. That includes $18.6 million owed to the Yankees for Vernon Wells and does not include the potential arbitration cases for Jerome Williams, Kevin Jepsen, Mark Trumbo, Ernesto Frieri and Peter Bourjos.

 

Kendrick (.299/.339/.446) and Aybar (.283/.310/.389) both signed pretty team-friendly extensions in 2012. Beyond this year, Kendrick is signed for two years and $18.85 million and has limited no-trade protection, allowing him to block deals to 12 clubs this year. Aybar is owed $25.5 million from 2014-16 but can’t block deals.

 

Trading them, of course, would mean replacing them. The Angels don’t have anybody ready to man the middle infield on an everyday basis in their organization.

 

– Alden Gonzalez

 

 

 

I would be interested in Kendrick. How much would it cost though?

[fatcowxlive]

We don't have any good cost-controlled starters.

 

Yep.

 

If RA Dickey has some sort of come back his contract would be good, If Romero has control his contract would be meh. Happ and his contract are meh. If Morrow stays healthy his contract is good.

 

Everyone else is either on last year (JJ), backloaded (Buehrle) or Arb.

[jays4life19]

We don't have any good cost-controlled starters.

 

True.

 

They might be interested in Cecil though as a starting pitcher. Worst case scenario he's a very good reliever that can replace Downs.

 

I would do something like Cecil, Nolin and Izzy. Izzy can be a bridge at second base while saving the Angels some $$.

[Angrioter]

we don't have any good starters.

 

iftfy

[Angrioter]

 

Melky + Boni + Cecil

[DuckDuckGose]

We don't have any good cost-controlled starters.

 

Hutchison but, he'd have to be healthy and performing to be shopped.

[DuckDuckGose]

 

Melky + Boni + Cecil

 

I'm intrigued. No idea what it would cost but exactly the kind of player AA should be looking at.

[Angrioter]

I'm intrigued. No idea what it would cost but exactly the kind of player AA should be looking at.

 

Tony Cingrani is little overrated. He look like a relievers at times (ALA Jason Frasor)........ Fastball, Fastball and more high heat.

[Dr. Dinger]

Tony Cingrani is UNDERrated. He hits 95 from the left with exceptional command and a changeup that flashes plus. He reminds me a lot of Cliff Lee, and I don't think he'll get his due respect until he sustains this production for a full season, but he is a damn good pitcher.

[Dr. Dinger]

Also, he has a very deceptive delivery, which IMO is a pretty underrated asset. There's a reason he has so much success with the fastball, it's incredibly hard to pick up out of the hand and he commands it to all quadrants.

[theblujay]

And some other teams have a half-dozen cost-controlled starters lol.

 

The A's are paying nothing to their rotation of Parker, Griffin, Milone, Straily and Colon. The Cardinals pay nothing to everyone but Wainwright, but he's producing above his salary anyway. Just about every other team has one or two young studs making the minimum or in early arbitration: Rays, Red Sox, Orioles, Tigers, Indians, White Sox, Rangers, and that's just the AL.

 

The Blue Jays have guaranteed $86.75M to the top three members of their rotation and are tied for the worst starters ERA in baseball. The Astros spent $0 above the minimum and run out random scrubs every day and have a starters ERA 33 points lower.

I don't understand why people are still committed to AA. This front office has no idea how to build a team. Four years going and no single good young-ish starting pitching.

 

That's sickening

[imsorry4beatinU]

Tony Cingrani is little overrated. He look like a relievers at times (ALA Jason Frasor)........ Fastball, Fastball and more high heat.

 

Tony Cingrani is UNDERrated. He hits 95 from the left with exceptional command and a changeup that flashes plus. He reminds me a lot of Cliff Lee, and I don't think he'll get his due respect until he sustains this production for a full season, but he is a damn good pitcher.

 

Who is right here? Smelling a wager here..

[Angrioter]

And some other teams have a half-dozen cost-controlled starters lol.

 

The A's are paying nothing to their rotation of Parker, Griffin, Milone, Straily and Colon. The Cardinals pay nothing to everyone but Wainwright, but he's producing above his salary anyway. Just about every other team has one or two young studs making the minimum or in early arbitration: Rays, Red Sox, Orioles, Tigers, Indians, White Sox, Rangers, and that's just the AL.

 

The Blue Jays have guaranteed $86.75M to the top three members of their rotation and are tied for the worst starters ERA in baseball. The Astros spent $0 above the minimum and run out random scrubs every day and have a starters ERA 33 points lower.

 

I don't understand why people are still committed to AA. This front office has no idea how to build a team. Four years going and no single good young-ish starting pitching.

 

I can't see in the near future a positive change in our team with the current FO approach.

 

Get the talent, develop that talent and maximize their potential is the ideal work of a good organization.

Right now we don't have the talent (overall), and the mindset to move forward for the path of success.

 

AA walked 5 steps back this year, he lost my respects.