I hope JP Arencibia makes it to 1500 plate appearances in a Jays uniform

[Deadpool]

His WAR has not improved every year. He is only worth 0.3 WAR this season. He's way off pace to meet his dismal total from last year. He is actually regressing.

 

This is one of those cases where the eyeball test is just as accurate as the stats in that evaluation.

[jayswin11]

Let's just get the best defensive/game calling catcher we can find and stick him in the lineup 150 times a season. We'd be far better off.

[KSaw]

Let's just get the best defensive/game calling catcher we can find and stick him in the lineup 150 times a season. We'd be far better off.

 

That would be Ruiz in free agency.

[jayswin11]

I'd be happy with Ruiz.

[Angrioter]

His WAR has not improved every year. He is only worth 0.3 WAR this season. He's way off pace to meet his dismal total from last year. He is actually regressing.

 

Replacement level player (Call up Jeroloman or Robinson Diaz) and no baseball knowledge. His life in baseball will be short

[jayswin11]

Jimenez would be better.

[Angrioter]

Jimenez would be better.

 

NO. Zero experience and can't hit. He's like Rey Ordonez.

[IronLadle]

Yup, he has definitely "improved each year".

 

His 2011 WAR was .05 2012 1.1 so it's increased

 

His WAR has not improved every year. He is only worth 0.3 WAR this season. He's way off pace to meet his dismal total from last year. He is actually regressing.

 

Season isn't over yet.

 

That would be Ruiz in free agency.

 

Ruiz currently has a worse WAR than J.P, he'll likely be twice the price and is 34

[Mikeleelop]

D'arnaud - also known as the human injury??

[Angrioter]

D'arnaud - also known as the human injury??

 

D'arnaud in just 50 games is more productive than JPA in 140 games.

[IronLadle]

You say season isn't over yet for JPA's WAR but you say that Ruiz has less WAR than JPA when Ruiz has played 44 games? Ruiz has also never been below average fielding and can be expected to stay that way (even though he's been just average this year).

 

He's 34. When will people realize the starting rotation is this teams problem, spending money on Ruiz is pointless.

[jaysblue]

This list also reminded me of how good Frank Catalanotto was

 

Catalanotto was great in his time here. He was a platoon player, though he was terrific against RHP. One of my favourite players when I was younger!

[guylaroche5]

hey remember that time we had alomar, molitor and olerud all on the same team? good times........

 

f*ck jpa

[wardhenke1]

hey remember that time we had alomar, molitor and olerud all on the same team? good times........

 

Yep, remember them well. Our catcher was the World Series MVP in 1992 and hit .307 in the 1993 World Series. Don't worry, D'arnaud will get there......oh wait.....

[IronLadle]

Yep, remember them well. Our catcher was the World Series MVP in 1992 and hit .307 in the 1993 World Series. Don't worry D'arnaud will get there......oh wait.....

 

I'm glad you brought up Borders - check out his WAR on fangraphs, it was pretty bad.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

He's 34. When will people realize the starting rotation is this teams problem, spending money on Ruiz is pointless.

 

How exactly are our catchers not a problem? Our team RPP and rSB are below league average (as in, our catchers are below average at blocking pitches, preventing steals and throwing out runners). JPA can't call a game, contributes less and less on offense by the year, and on top of that, has a highly arrogant and delusional opinion of his skill level that ensures he will never improve his game.

 

I don't know where this idea that the starting pitchers are our only problem comes from. Team defense and depth are a pretty big issue too along with the catcher position. The second half of the batting order has been a joke, too.

[Buster]

Isn't JPA nearly 28, also?

 

I mean, if this guy was going to change and show some hidden potential, surely we would have seen it by now.

[IronLadle]

How exactly are our catchers not a problem? Our team RPP and rSB are below league average (as in, our catchers are below average at blocking pitches, preventing steals and throwing out runners). JPA can't call a game, contributes less and less on offense by the year, and on top of that, has a highly arrogant and delusional opinion of his skill level that ensures he will never improve his game.

 

I don't know where this idea that the starting pitchers are our only problem comes from. Team defense and depth are a pretty big issue too along with the catcher position. The second half of the batting order has been a joke, too.

 

We're tied for seventh in runs scored, the offence is fine - J.P is part of a top offence. You have no idea if J.P can call a game or not, Esmil Rogers is putting up solid numbers with J.P's game calling - yet our better pitchers can't?

 

We could definitely improve at the catching position, J.P and Thole are mediocre, your going to have some mediocre starters on the team - every team does. But J.P takes the most

blame and he's actually worth his price tag (half a million) when the problem is so clearly Buerhle, Dickey, Johnson, Morrow and Romero those guys are making the money

[IronLadle]

Lol #top10catcher

 

J.P isn't a top ten catcher but the Jays offence is

[Errorcebia]

J.P isn't a top ten catcher but the Jays offence is

 

We are last place

[Dick_Pole]

Say there is a very short person out there (1 foot tall or something) that has practically no strike zone and he walks every time he is up to bat. He would have a .000 AVG, .000 SLG, 0 HR, and handful of RBI, but he would undeniably be the best batter in the history of the game with a .691 wOBA and a 1.000 OBP.

 

Obviously a 100% walk rate is impossible, but it goes to show that you cannot judge ability by HR, RBI, or even AVG.

 

Eddie Gaedel