NBA Thread

[jays_fever]

If the Cavs sweep and the Raps win in 5, then would they push up the East Finals even if the West isn't settled yet?

 

Yep. The West finals would then be every second day while the ECF would have 3 days off multiple times.

[Frag]

JV out for the series. Well, that sucks.

[dineke]

better hope lowry is really back then

[Frag]

Whiteside is day-to-day with a sprained MCL. Could make this series interesting.

[burlingtonbandit]

Even if Whiteside is out for the series thats a bad tradeoff for the Raps.

[jaysblue]

Ah you hope Lowry can take control of the series and that Bis can step up in JV's absence and avoid foul trouble. We saw Bis hold his own when JV was out before during the season.

[jays_fever]

Bis is better than any big the Heat have other than Whiteside. Haslem if awful

[Jimcanuck]

Wade's a POS

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/dwyane-wade-o-canada-1.3572578

[Jimcanuck]

Although..... the anthems should be done away with.... for all sports

 

A rather silly custom

[thatoneguy]

Although..... the anthems should be done away with.... for all sports

 

A rather silly custom

 

How is it a rather silly custom? I'm anxious to hear this explanation.

[Jimcanuck]

How is it a rather silly custom? I'm anxious to hear this explanation.

 

What's the relationship between an anthem and a professional sport game?

 

The practice started way back when pretty much the only music people heard was live..... was just an additional entertainment factor to put bums in the seats.

 

Today, just a waste of time.

[bones10]

What's the relationship between an anthem and a professional sport game?

 

The practice started way back when pretty much the only music people heard was live..... was just an additional entertainment factor to put bums in the seats.

 

Today, just a waste of time.

 

 

GTFO

[Boxcar]

How is it a rather silly custom? I'm anxious to hear this explanation.

 

What does the anthem have to do with a bunch of guys hitting a ball?

[Jimcanuck]

GTFO

 

lol

 

douche

[crazy47larry]

How is it a rather silly custom? I'm anxious to hear this explanation.

 

What is the point of it? Why is it even there to begin with? What connection does this game of baseball (or basketball or whatever) or people doing their jobs (these are PROFESSIONAL athletes) have to do with nationalism? This is not Canada vs Russia. This is Toronto vs Miami. Do YOU ever see the national anthem played literally anywhere else? The only other place it is played is in schools which are generally government run and funded. Plus I understand the thought process of governments ingraining kids with that nationalism early and often.

 

How is it not? Thats what I am anxious to hear.

[HERPDERP]

What's the relationship between an anthem and a professional sport game?

 

The practice started way back when pretty much the only music people heard was live..... was just an additional entertainment factor to put bums in the seats.

 

Today, just a waste of time.

 

doesn't matter if you think it's a waste of time, it's a matter of respect.

[Jimcanuck]

doesn't matter if you think it's a waste of time, it's a matter of respect.

 

huh?

 

the question is what do national anthems have to do with pro sports leagues

[jaysblue]

With JV out this series, will the Raps dress Lucas Nogueira to backup Bis? He had some good games when he played at times this season off the bench.

[jays_fever]

Jason Thompson would be the 4th big, though he shoulb be ahead of Scola. He was already active

[GD]

Jason Thompson would be the 4th big, though he shoulb be ahead of Scola. He was already active

 

If Whiteside is back though think I'd almost rather Bebe over Thompson

 

As long as Scola isn't f***ing out there but he will be

[jays_fever]

If Whiteside is back though think I'd almost rather Bebe over Thompson

 

As long as Scola isn't f***ing out there but he will be

 

Bebe is better than Casey gives him credit for. I was just answering as to what will actually happen though. Scola is going to get his 25 minutes again for some reason

[GD]

Bebe is better than Casey gives him credit for. I was just answering as to what will actually happen though. Scola is going to get his 25 minutes again for some reason

 

Imagine Scola vs whiteside

[nmrch]

Even if Whiteside is out for the series thats a bad tradeoff for the Raps.

 

I dunno, i think both teams break even. Whiteside is a monster, yes JV has done decently 1 v 1 against him but its not that lopsided of a matchup and Whiteside is miles ahead as a help defender. The way i see it the Heat take a huge hit defensively and a small hit offensively, the Raps take a small hit defensively and its a decent sized hit offensively. JV has improved as a pick and roll defender but he just isn't there yet as a shot blocking presence. Without Whiteside its open season around the rim for the Raps, Lowry and co should be able to take advantage of that.

[GD]

Is Whiteside really a "monster?" I'm still undecided on this myself. I don't think blocks are as important as most make them out to be.

[SpeedyGose]

Is Whiteside really a "monster?" I'm still undecided on this myself. I don't think blocks are as important as most make them out to be.

 

JV is easily a better all around player. Whiteside is a monster at help side block and rebounding but he's not a great man defender. Limited offensive game too

[nmrch]

Is Whiteside really a "monster?" I'm still undecided on this myself. I don't think blocks are as important as most make them out to be.

 

You're right that blocks aren't everything but he is an intimidating presence around the rim and he alters a lot of shots. OTH, he's not an "anchor" like Marc Gasol and can't be relied on all aspects of defence.

[GD]

JV is easily a better all around player. Whiteside is a monster at help side block and rebounding but he's not a great man defender. Limited offensive game too

 

Of course JV is better, I'm just not sure if Whiteside is generally as good as people think. I've been wanting to study blocks for a while. Seems like a lot of the time it just ends up with the ball in the hands of the same team in a different scoring chance.

[crazy47larry]

Of course JV is better, I'm just not sure if Whiteside is generally as good as people think. I've been wanting to study blocks for a while. Seems like a lot of the time it just ends up with the ball in the hands of the same team in a different scoring chance.

 

i think i remember an article that said most of the time it ends up out of bounds. the team would get it back but its on a short clock situation. thats a big reason why u always hear commentators mention if the player kept the ball in bounds after a block.

[crazy47larry]

You're right that blocks aren't everything but he is an intimidating presence around the rim and he alters a lot of shots. OTH, he's not an "anchor" like Marc Gasol and can't be relied on all aspects of defence.

 

yeah it seems like most people gloss over this fact. his job is on the defensive end. he doesnt have any post moves like JV but he can pick & roll and pick & pop. honestly if he had post moves he would be like the best f***ing center in the league and a true do it all center that is so rare these days. and he can and does anchor that defence for sure. if he isnt a defensive anchor at center than who is? he is on par with the deandre jordan's and rudy gobert's of the world.

[nmrch]

yeah it seems like most people gloss over this fact. his job is on the defensive end. he doesnt have any post moves like JV but he can pick & roll and pick & pop. honestly if he had post moves he would be like the best f***ing center in the league and a true do it all center that is so rare these days. and he can and does anchor that defence for sure. if he isnt a defensive anchor at center than who is? he is on par with the deandre jordan's and rudy gobert's of the world.

 

The reason i say Whiteside isn't a true anchor is because a true all around defensive player does more than act as a lane intimidator. In today's NBA pick and roll defence is as important as protecting the rim on drives, he's also slow on rotations and doesn't have the overall instincts on defence that someone like Marc Gasol does. Having said all that, he's truly elite at blocking shots and altering shots, that's a valuable and rare skill.

 

JV right now has become a much better defender on the pick and roll, its really noticeable in the post season compared to previous years. His 1 v 1 defence against other bigs is okay but his shotblocking presence and other aspects of help defence need to get better.