The Prospect/Minor Leagues Thread

[P2F]

For a kid repeating Lansing that's to be expected. Lansing is an extreme pitchers' park though, so not bad. Thanks.

 

He played in Rookie ball and then moved up to Short A last year.

[Angrioter]

Bluefield or/and Vancouver

[OtisNixonFan]

Anyone have a decent link for a scouting report on Smoral. Need to familiarise myself with him.

[GD]

Anyone have a decent link for a scouting report on Smoral. Need to familiarise myself with him.

 

Big lefty, good secondaries, nice fastball, broke his foot, slipped to us, injury concerns due to size, Bumgarner comp's been thrown around.

[Angrioter]

Big lefty, good secondaries, nice fastball, broke his foot, slipped to us, injury concerns due to size, Bumgarner comp's been thrown around.

 

Andy Pettitte comp's

[GD]

Andy Pettitte comp's

 

Either one would be nice

[Angrioter]

Either one would be nice

 

Pettitte is a lucky bastard, I'd prefer MaBum comp lol

[OtisNixonFan]

Either one would be nice

 

I think I'd take Prime Petitte.

[GD]

I think I'd take Prime Petitte.

 

f*** the Yankees lol.

 

Career best Pettitte had a 2.96 FIP (this was before xFIP). 2011 Bumgarner had a 2.67 FIP. Granted, Pettitte did it in the steroids era, but he was on them too.

 

If he doesn't fall off the face of the earth, I think I'd rather MadBum, really.

[ElNik2013]

Anyone seen updates on Nolin and Stilson? I know A.J. Jimenez is back playing in Dunedin, I would think he'll be up in NH since that's where he ended up last year.

 

I just haven't seen anything on Nolin and Stilson.

[TO1]

The FSL is known as a pitcher's league.

[GD]

Anyone seen updates on Nolin and Stilson? I know A.J. Jimenez is back playing in Dunedin, I would think he'll be up in NH since that's where he ended up last year.

 

I just haven't seen anything on Nolin and Stilson.

 

Injured and injured respectively. I can't wait until those 3 get back, though. I see a closer in Stilson, #3 in Nolin and our next catcher of the future in Jimenez.

 

TDA A+ wRC+: 107

Jimenez A+ wRC+: 113

 

Completely meaningless, but kinda funny.

[TO1]

Lopes is legit, can't run but his bat is so sexy

 

Only thing he hasn't shown so far is the ability to take a BB.

His OBP is only like 16 points higher than his BA.

3 BB in 109 ABs really shows he doesn't exactly take a pitch. That could bite him down the road.

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Only thing he hasn't shown so far is the ability to take a BB.

His OBP is only like 16 points higher than his BA.

3 BB in 109 ABs really shows he doesn't exactly take a pitch. That could bite him down the road.

 

He doesn't strike out much though which is really, really nice. Even if he doesn't walk, he at least puts the ball in play.

 

Stroman the other day

 

 

"BJ's with @Sean_Nolin and @A_Sanch21! That's a restaurant by the way. Lol #dontgetittwisted"

 

...Nice

 

LOL, the kid's immature but hilarious.

[ElNik2013]

Injured and injured respectively. I can't wait until those 3 get back, though. I see a closer in Stilson, #3 in Nolin and our next catcher of the future in Jimenez.

 

TDA A+ wRC+: 107

Jimenez A+ wRC+: 113

 

Completely meaningless, but kinda funny.

 

 

 

I knew they were injured, I just haven't seen any updates on their injuries and when they'd be back. And, like you, I can't wait till they're all back in NH, they'll be very important going forward and if they were all to start next year at AAA, along with Stroman, it would be huge for the organization.

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I knew they were injured, I just haven't seen any updates on their injuries and when they'd be back. And, like you, I can't wait till they're all back in NH, they'll be very important going forward and if they were all to start next year at AAA, along with Stroman, it would be huge for the organization.

 

I wouldn't really mind Stroman/Hutchison/Nolin/Stilson/Sanchez competing to replace JJ when he's gone.

[ElNik2013]

I wouldn't really mind Stroman/Hutchison/Nolin/Stilson/Sanchez competing to replace JJ when he's gone.

 

 

When you put it that way, the organization doesn't look as horrible after the trades. Sanchez does have a chance of starting next year in AAA, I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that with a few more good starts, he could be promoted to NH and if he does well there, he could start next year in AAA. Even though I didn't like the trades in the offseason, the team did need to acquire ML starters, especially after the injuries to Hutchison and Drabek, even though Drabek was bad, and Romero's disastrous season. I just wish they had gone after younger, controllable players (like AA used to preach), or the FA route and kept the prospects, imagine the guys you mention above plus Nicolino, Syndergaard, Hech, Gose and D'Arnaud. AA was building a nice nucleus with Lawrie already in teh bigs. The pitching was behind though and it showed last year.

 

 

Anyway, at least there are some arms moving up.

[GD]

When you put it that way, the organization doesn't look as horrible after the trades. Sanchez does have a chance of starting next year in AAA, I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that with a few more good starts, he could be promoted to NH and if he does well there, he could start next year in AAA. Even though I didn't like the trades in the offseason, the team did need to acquire ML starters, especially after the injuries to Hutchison and Drabek, even though Drabek was bad, and Romero's disastrous season. I just wish they had gone after younger, controllable players (like AA used to preach), or the FA route and kept the prospects, imagine the guys you mention above plus Nicolino, Syndergaard, Hech, Gose and D'Arnaud. AA was building a nice nucleus with Lawrie already in teh bigs. The pitching was behind though and it showed last year.

 

 

Anyway, at least there are some arms moving up.

 

Yeah, this is what I've been saying in other threads about rebuilding. We have a really underrated farm system with sleepers (Burns, Tirado, Pompey, Pillar), underrated guys (Stilson, Lopes, etc), and key pieces (Sanchez, Osuna) with some guys who, if they pan out, could be insane (Davis, Alford, Anderson, Smith Jr, Norris, Drabek). They've got some nice ML talent (Hutchison, Lawrie, Morrow, EE), and some pieces to move for prospects.

 

I think I would have preferred tanking for another year / adding through 2014 FA or adding through 2013 FA this year and keeping our nucleus, but the franchise isn't in bad shape, per se, we're not the Phillies (yet)- it's just a s***** season. When we trade away our key cogs (which we will), though, then we'll be the Phillies.

[Captain Adama]

When you put it that way, the organization doesn't look as horrible after the trades. Sanchez does have a chance of starting next year in AAA, I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that with a few more good starts, he could be promoted to NH and if he does well there, he could start next year in AAA. Even though I didn't like the trades in the offseason, the team did need to acquire ML starters, especially after the injuries to Hutchison and Drabek, even though Drabek was bad, and Romero's disastrous season. I just wish they had gone after younger, controllable players (like AA used to preach), or the FA route and kept the prospects, imagine the guys you mention above plus Nicolino, Syndergaard, Hech, Gose and D'Arnaud. AA was building a nice nucleus with Lawrie already in teh bigs. The pitching was behind though and it showed last year.

 

 

Anyway, at least there are some arms moving up.

 

I remember where you might have read that, although IIRC that may have been an assumption, I know that the org intended to stop babying Sanchez and if he was gonna pitch well, they would send him up.

 

Although personally, I don't think the Jays are gonna promote Sanchez before the All-Star break. I'll be pretty shocked if they do.

[ElNik2013]

Although personally, I don't think the Jays are gonna promote Sanchez before the All-Star break. I'll be pretty shocked if they do.

 

 

That would give him 2 months in NH and if he does well there, he could start next year at AAA. Anyway, we need Nolin, Stilson, Stroman and Jimenez back in NH so that AA can trade them for a middle reliever...lol, kidding! But seriously, too bad Nolin and Stilson are on the DL, they are missing out on some good development time. At least Stroman should be back in like 10 games.

[TO1]

He doesn't strike out much though which is really, really nice. Even if he doesn't walk, he at least puts the ball in play.

 

 

 

LOL, the kid's immature but hilarious.

 

 

Sure, but unless he continues to hit at a really high rate, he won't have much of an OBP to talk about. It's kinda been the Jays issue over the last few years.

Do you really think the kid is going to hit 320+ in the majors to get his OBP to somewhere near 340 year-after-year? I wouldn't take that bet on anyone.

At some point the free swinging aspect of Jays hitters coming up has to change or their going to suffer the same fate that's plagued the ML team for a while now.

[GD]

Sure, but unless he continues to hit at a really high rate, he won't have much of an OBP to talk about. It's kinda been the Jays issue over the last few years.

Do you really think the kid is going to hit 320+ in the majors to get his OBP to somewhere near 340 year-after-year? I wouldn't take that bet on anyone.

At some point the free swinging aspect of Jays hitters coming up has to change or their going to suffer the same fate that's plagued the ML team for a while now.

 

Obviously not, but who's to say his walk rate won't improve?

 

I don't think he's gonna be special, just a nice, solid hitter.

[TO1]

I wouldn't really mind Stroman/Hutchison/Nolin/Stilson/Sanchez competing to replace JJ when he's gone.

 

Sanchez is the ML next year is really rushing the kid. I wouldn't do that move.

Stroman is going to start probably in Dunedin sometime around May 20. Didn't start last year and will need some time. So I don't think that will work for next year either.

Stilson is a reliever. Keeps getting injured as a starter and has a violent delivery not ideal for a starter.

 

Hutchison makes the most sense to me. Has some ML experience and was coming along fine before his injury last year.

[TO1]

Obviously not, but who's to say his walk rate won't improve?

 

I don't think he's gonna be special, just a nice, solid hitter.

 

I'm not saying it won't improve. Just that it has to improve for him to be good at higher levels. If it doesn't then more advanced pitching will just throw him junk just outside the strike zone and he will get himself out swinging at that crap.

[Captain Adama]

Sanchez is the ML next year is really rushing the kid. I wouldn't do that move.

Stroman is going to start probably in Dunedin sometime around May 20. Didn't start last year and will need some time. So I don't think that will work for next year either.

Stilson is a reliever. Keeps getting injured as a starter and has a violent delivery not ideal for a starter.

 

Hutchison makes the most sense to me. Has some ML experience and was coming along fine before his injury last year.

 

Yep, you gotta ensure Sanchez continues to throw out low walk rates for an extended period. IMO that should hold first priority in regards to promoting him.

[GD]

Sanchez is the ML next year is really rushing the kid. I wouldn't do that move.

Stroman is going to start probably in Dunedin sometime around May 20. Didn't start last year and will need some time. So I don't think that will work for next year either.

Stilson is a reliever. Keeps getting injured as a starter and has a violent delivery not ideal for a starter.

 

Hutchison makes the most sense to me. Has some ML experience and was coming along fine before his injury last year.

 

Yeah, that's why I listed him last. It'd take a LOT of breaks. But he should be in the rotation in 2014.

Stroman's potentially MLB ready, though, he'd probably be at AA/AAA but he's just getting stretched out at HiA. He DID start last year, at Duke, though.

Stilson's a reliever, I concur, but he's just another name.

 

Nolin could also work but I'm really high on Hutch as well. Point is that there are already potential replacements, not to mention guys who could put it together (McGuire, Jenkins, Carreno?).

[CHRIS]

I wouldn't really mind Stroman/Hutchison/Nolin/Stilson/Sanchez competing to replace JJ when he's gone.

 

Always figured that Hutch would step in nicely if Johnson walked. Definitely nice to have a few other guys pan out.

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Always figured that Hutch would step in nicely if Johnson walked. Definitely nice to have a few other guys pan out.

 

I really hope he can get back by the ASB or so, it'd be nice to groom him in Buffalo.

[Angrioter]

I wouldn't really mind Stroman/Hutchison/Nolin/Stilson/Sanchez competing to replace JJ when he's gone.

 

 

1-Hutchison

2-Drabek

3-Nolin

4-Stroman

[CHRIS]

1-Hutchison

2-Drabek

3-Nolin

4-Stroman

 

Drabek turning into anything useful would be such a nice bonus at this point.