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CCC was a really good add by you. Fangraphs DC projections are up to 234/329/503 with 35-HR power (122 wRC+).

 

Yeah absurdly good for a no cost add. All I had to do was keep him past the cut. The only sensible alternative would have been Justin Bour who I flipped instead.

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CCC was a really good add by you. Fangraphs DC projections are up to 234/329/503 with 35-HR power (122 wRC+). They're buying a talent change.

 

He's cut his K rate by 4%, which for him could be the difference between hitting .200 and .240. Apparently he's changed his approach to drive the ball to center rather than being pull-happy.

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If he could just keep it at this level and become the next Chris Davis, that would be pretty cool.

 

That would indeed be swell. I'm really hoping the Brewers give him an extension rather than trade him. Miller Park is a perfect environment for him to do his cruising.

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That would indeed be swell. I'm really hoping the Brewers give him an extension rather than trade him. Miller Park is a perfect environment for him to do his cruising.

 

Yeah, it's a fantasy wet dream. At this point I think he'd have to get hurt to fall short of 40 HR. Career year in the making.

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He's cut his K rate by 4%, which for him could be the difference between hitting .200 and .240. Apparently he's changed his approach to drive the ball to center rather than being pull-happy.

 

He's being more selective. 19.2% O-swing, and he's at 27% career.

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He was left for dead in BORED, drafted at 345 behind such fantasy stalwarts as Jedd Gyorko, Cliff Lee, and Didi Gregorius.
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He was left for dead in BORED, drafted at 345 behind such fantasy stalwarts as Jedd Gyorko, Cliff Lee, and Didi Gregorius.

 

I hate myself for this. I liked him enough to keep him in LOD, but not quite enough to double down. I kept looking at him on the board and passing.

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I hate myself for this. I liked him enough to keep him in LOD, but not quite enough to double down.

 

I hedged by drafting him in TAC as well, so it's not all roses for me.

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I hedged by drafting him in TAC as well, so it's not all roses for me.

 

Yikes. That could be this year's Lorenzo Cain style season tanker.

Old-Timey Member
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I hate myself for this. I liked him enough to keep him in LOD, but not quite enough to double down. I kept looking at him on the board and passing.

 

Same. Had a shot at him in a bunch of other leagues including one where I drafted Pujols. :(

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You still have to expect a gutter slump from him. There are still so many guys in the league that the jury should still be out on.

 

For Real / New Identity vs. Mirage / Slump

(description is the relevant point to comment on)

 

Greg Polanco - 141 wRC+ w/ .200 ISO

Aledmys Diaz - above average MLBer

Odubel Herrera - elite BB rate

Michael Conforto - elite bat

Travis Shaw - 151 wRC+, very good 3B

Francisco Lindor - 133 wRC+

CCC - RHB Chris Davis

Brett Lawrie - hitting like people thought he would 4 years ago

Welington Castillo - best fantasy power C

Mark Trumbo - more than a .250/.300 hitter?

Nick Castellanos - see Mark Trumbo

Michael Saunders - how much is luck...

Trevor Story - for real a viable high HR / K% guy?

Yasmany Tomas - did he figure it out?

___________________________________

Prince Fielder - is it over?

Joey Votto - declined?

EE - declined?

Abreu - worse than we thought?

Ryan Zimmerman - bad?

Rendon - not as good as we thought?

Tulo - is he this bad?

Yan Gomes - flash in the 2014 pan?

Justin Turner - no power; irrelevant for fantasy now?

Kyle Seager - just BABIP, right?

Alex Gordon - does the K% scare you yet?

Lorenzo Cain - flash in the pan offensively?

Jason Heyward - still adjusting?

Mookie - not as elite as we thought?

 

And that's just hitters. Actually, canvassing opinions would be interesting.

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Feels like I'm against Bizarro-BTS, 446 OBP 620 SLG 5.54 ERA 1.00 K/BB lol

 

This is good news for you. My offense will surely fall of a cliff and my pitching ratios have already been tanked.

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You still have to expect a gutter slump from him. There are still so many guys in the league that the jury should still be out on.

 

For Real / New Identity vs. Mirage / Slump

(description is the relevant point to comment on)

 

Greg Polanco - 141 wRC+ w/ .200 ISO

Aledmys Diaz - above average MLBer

Odubel Herrera - elite BB rate

Michael Conforto - elite bat

Travis Shaw - 151 wRC+, very good 3B

Francisco Lindor - 133 wRC+

CCC - RHB Chris Davis

Brett Lawrie - hitting like people thought he would 4 years ago

Welington Castillo - best fantasy power C

Mark Trumbo - more than a .250/.300 hitter?

Nick Castellanos - see Mark Trumbo

Michael Saunders - how much is luck...

Trevor Story - for real a viable high HR / K% guy?

Yasmany Tomas - did he figure it out?

___________________________________

Prince Fielder - is it over?

Joey Votto - declined?

EE - declined?

Abreu - worse than we thought?

Ryan Zimmerman - bad?

Rendon - not as good as we thought?

Tulo - is he this bad?

Yan Gomes - flash in the 2014 pan?

Justin Turner - no power; irrelevant for fantasy now?

Kyle Seager - just BABIP, right?

Alex Gordon - does the K% scare you yet?

Lorenzo Cain - flash in the pan offensively?

Jason Heyward - still adjusting?

Mookie - not as elite as we thought?

 

And that's just hitters. Actually, canvassing opinions would be interesting.

 

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Is that Corey Seager? I don't think he's doing anything weird. His peripherals are fine and mild struggles are expected from 22 year olds.
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Joe Musgrove with another scoreless outing (6IP). I'd love to actually see him pitch and see why he isn't considered better than he is. LHH against him so far 6 for 36, 0 XBH, 14K, 0 BB. Looks like he'll have value even if he's not starting.
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Joe Musgrove with another scoreless outing (6IP). I'd love to actually see him pitch and see why he isn't considered better than he is. LHH against him so far 6 for 36, 0 XBH, 14K, 0 BB. Looks like he'll have value even if he's not starting.

 

There's no denying the extreme command skills, but a 55/50/50 arsenal and injury history have people in wait and see mode, I guess. Similar profiles have failed to transition numerous times (Straily Dan comes to mind for me).

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There's no denying the extreme command skills, but a 55/50/50 arsenal and injury history have people in wait and see mode, I guess. Similar profiles have failed to transition numerous times (Straily Dan comes to mind for me).

 

Where are you getting the 55/50/50? It must be old grades.

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Where are you getting the 55/50/50? It must be old grades.

 

basically everywhere. might be a 60 FB if you factor command into the pitch grade but I'm reading 91-93 t94

Old-Timey Member
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There's no denying the extreme command skills, but a 55/50/50 arsenal and injury history have people in wait and see mode, I guess. Similar profiles have failed to transition numerous times (Straily Dan comes to mind for me).

 

T.J. House?

Community Moderator
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T.J. House?

 

Swap command skills for GB skills and maybe. But House didn't really have transition issues - he transitioned to the league just fine. Then he had major injury issues.

 

Maybe Matt Shoemaker is a cautionary tale, but to be clear I'm not really saying that there's is anything wrong with Musgrove I'm just trying to put a finger on why he doesn't get much hype, aside from BA going out on a limb and placing him #6 in that system. I'm sure the success rate of mediocre stuff, plus results guys like Musgrove and Blackburn (etc.) compares favourably to the success rates of mediocre results, plus stuff guys like Robert Stephenson and Aaron Sanchez and Archie Bradley (etc.)

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basically everywhere. might be a 60 FB if you factor command into the pitch grade but I'm reading 91-93 t94

 

I haven't seen anything lower then a 60 for FB. But then I've also see a future of 50 for command, which makes me not want to trust the scouts. And a few starts he was hitting 97 I believe.

Community Moderator
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I haven't seen anything lower then a 60 for FB. But then I've also see a future of 50 for command, which makes me not want to trust the scouts. And a few starts he was hitting 97 I believe.

 

A flat 60 implies that he can sit 93 with the FB, which doesn't appear to be the case based on recent reports.

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