NHL Thread

[Spanky99]

he is from Pardubice, I was there in 2008 for the WJ

 

That must have been a great trip, did you go there for the hockey, or was it fortunate timing?

[Spanky99]

I'm with JimmyC on this hard to compare, but in my lifetime I'd likely give the slight edge to Hasek as he was on the Sabres, that dude was outstanding, wasn't pretty, but he stole games and series outright on his own.

[Laika]

That must have been a great trip, did you go there for the hockey, or was it fortunate timing?

 

we went there for the tournament

saw every Canada game

[Brownie19]

The fancy stats probably agree. But, the fancy stats also give Patrick Roy a huge boost.

 

Upon further investigation Hasek and Roy are pretty close. Roy's peak was about as dominant as Hasek's peak, it's just harder to see because league-wide save% rose so much in the late 80s, early 90s. So Roy was dominating on a league-relative basis with a .912 sv%, while Hasek did it with .930s a half decade later.

 

Roy lead the league in save% four times in five years, vs. Hasek's six straight. Kind of cool that Roy more or less passed the torch to Hasek as their peaks almost touch.

 

But Roy also tacked dominant playoff performances on top of that. That matters a lot.

 

I also love Ed Belfour showing up as the league sv% leader in both 91 and 2000. At ages 25 and 34.

 

What's really interesting is that Hasek is actually 1 year older than Roy. I certainly acknowledge that the league wide SV% was much lower in the late 80's, when Roy was well ahead of the league - but that's when Hasek was still playing in Czech. As soon as Hasek became an NHL starter, he blew away Roy in the same era and then continued to play for another 4 seasons after Roy retired.

 

Jacques Plante isn't someone I really knew a lot about (I don't follow the history of hockey like I do baseball). Crazy that his two 0.940+ SV% years were after the age of 40 after taking 3 years off hockey! Dryden is like the Sandy Koufax of baseball eh? Crazy he retired so early. Perhaps this isn't as cut and dry as I expected. Interesting debate gentlemen.

 

Also worth noting that when I do go back and look at old stats, I can't help but be reminded of how good Orr was and how interesting it would have been if he stayed healthy for a 20 year career. Career over at age 26 is insane.

[Spanky99]

That crowd last night in Buffalo was top shelf... hahaha! Woo... Sammy was incredible.

[Krylian]

That crowd last night in Buffalo was top shelf... hahaha! Woo... Sammy was incredible.

 

Same lineup goes tonight.

[Spanky99]

Matthews eyeballing 70, that'd be cool as f***.

 

FU Panthers!

[jaysblue]

Matthews eyeballing 70, that'd be cool as f***.

 

FU Panthers!

 

Leafs gotta hope they can score 5-6 goals in the NHL Playoffs if they want to beat teams like Florida or Boston. Their defense man is awful.

[Spanky99]

Leafs gotta hope they can score 5-6 goals in the NHL Playoffs if they want to beat teams like Florida or Boston. Their defense man is awful.

 

K.....

[Pendleton]

Their defense man is awful.

 

Which one?

[jaysblue]

K.....

 

You know it bud. Don't ignore the facts.

[Spanky99]

You know it bud. Don't ignore the facts.

 

[Horses Fart]

Mo back in tonight so it might be a loss. They 8-0 without him?

[Spanky99]

Mo back in tonight so it might be a loss. They 8-0 without him?

 

Please don't do that, he's our best D-man by a landslide.

[Horses Fart]

Please don't do that, he's our best D-man by a landslide.

 

I know but it’s a strange stat.

[Spanky99]

I know but it’s a strange stat.

 

Yes by', an anomaly.

[Krylian]

Yes by', an anomaly.

 

Not necessarily. When he's out the other D-Men are asked to step up...some of them have to provide the offence that Rielly normally does...other might tighten up a bit more knowing their #1 guy isn't around so they need to be better. That extra responsibility might bring the best out of them. It's just a theory...might be completely false, but it is plausible.

[Spanky99]

Not necessarily. When he's out the other D-Men are asked to step up...some of them have to provide the offence that Rielly normally does...other might tighten up a bit more knowing their #1 guy isn't around so they need to be better. That extra responsibility might bring the best out of them. It's just a theory...might be completely false, but it is plausible.

 

I hear ya, but I doubt it.

[jaysblue]

Leafs need another two defensemen and they gotta hope guys like Matthews, Nylander and Marner play tough in the Playoffs.

[Horses Fart]

BTW RIP to Boone Jenners little guy. Hard stuff.

[Spanky99]

BTW RIP to Boone Jenners little guy. Hard stuff.

 

Whoa...

 

Horrible man, my heart goes out to the fam.

[Spanky99]

AM34!!!! Unreal.

[Horses Fart]

AM34!!!! Unreal.

 

True but the D…….. not so much.

[jaysblue]

True but the D…….. not so much.

 

Ah I've been saying that but Spanky is ignorant to that fact and thinks the Leafs are going all the way to the Cup!

[Spanky99]

Leafs missed a chance last night

[Krylian]

Ah I've been saying that but Spanky is ignorant to that fact and thinks the Leafs are going all the way to the Cup!

 

No one thinks that.

[Spanky99]

Kucherov likely wins MVP, I think.

[Krylian]

Kucherov likely wins MVP, I think.

 

It'll be MacKinnon and it really won't be that close

[Spanky99]

It'll be MacKinnon and it really won't be that close

 

Nah, Kuch hasn't won yet and he's miles ahead in scoring on his team.

[Laika]

Wonder if Aaron Matthews has a shot if he somehow gets to 70 goals