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Krylian

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I don't think it's lucky. The Leafs starting goalie is really, really bad.

 

He wasn't good for sure. Not impressed by that glove hand.

I'm commenting more on the 'Leafs were outplayed' narrative.

 

Leafs made sloppy mistakes, the Habs cashed in, and our goalie didn't really do much to bail them out. That's why they lost.

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Hopefully Ilya Samsonov can blossom. He was a highly regarded prospect at one point.

 

He's the one that I'm holding out hope for more so than Murray.

That said, neither would've been near the top of my list for who I'd like to see steering the ship in net this season.

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The Leafs goaltending history is hilarious.

 

Seriously, who are the last truly good goalies they have even had? Do you have to go back to the 70s, 60s?

 

Please don't say CuJo or Potvin lmao.

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The Leafs goaltending history is hilarious.

 

Seriously, who are the last truly good goalies they have even had? Do you have to go back to the 70s, 60s?

 

Please don't say CuJo or Potvin lmao.

 

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jaysblue

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On a serious note, CuJo was pretty solid. He almost carried the Leafs to the Stanley Cup in 2002 and they did have deep playoff runs with him at least.

 

Ed Belfour had some great seasons for them (2002-2003 & 2004-2005), though I recall never had much success in the Playoffs those seasons.

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The Leafs goaltending history is hilarious.

 

Seriously, who are the last truly good goalies they have even had? Do you have to go back to the 70s, 60s?

 

Please don't say CuJo or Potvin lmao.

 

Tuukka Rask.

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On a serious note, CuJo was pretty solid. He almost carried the Leafs to the Stanley Cup in 2002 and they did have deep playoff runs with him at least.

 

Ed Belfour had some great seasons for them (2002-2003 & 2004-2005), though I recall never had much success in the Playoffs those seasons.

 

I glanced at CuJo's season to season save % and nothing popped but maybe some of those years with Toronto ranked well if league offense was high.

 

But even if he WAS rock solid it would only have been for a 2 year period.

 

I honestly think you have to go allllllllllllllll the way back to a 42 year old Jacques Plante in 1970-71 to find the last Leafs goalie who was truly elite. 51 years and counting.

 

All of the decent ones between then and now have been like top 10 guys at best.

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The Leafs goaltending history is hilarious.

 

Seriously, who are the last truly good goalies they have even had? Do you have to go back to the 70s, 60s?

 

Please don't say CuJo or Potvin lmao.

 

Who have the Leafs developed in net is what I always go back to? Potvin...although not a perennial All-Star by any means, had a few seasons where he was a legit #1 goalie. He was drafted in 1990. Leafs drafted Rask but Fergie couldn't trade him to Boston fast enough...and they developed Reimer...who, although has had a couple of flashes of good play, has essentially been a journeyman guy. Over 30 years since they've drafted, developed, and reaped some benefits of a #1 goalie. It really is quite remarkable.

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Who have the Leafs developed in net is what I always go back to? Potvin...although not a perennial All-Star by any means, had a few seasons where he was a legit #1 goalie. He was drafted in 1990. Leafs drafted Rask but Fergie couldn't trade him to Boston fast enough...and they developed Reimer...who, although has had a couple of flashes of good play, has essentially been a journeyman guy. Over 30 years since they've drafted, developed, and reaped some benefits of a #1 goalie. It really is quite remarkable.

 

It's amazing really.

 

Looking to the rivals, since 1970 the Habs have had Dryden, Roy, Price, and even Jose Theodore who at his peak was at least better than any goalie Toronto has found or made in 51+ years.

 

Imagine if the Maple Leafs had a goalie like those guys for 5 to 10 years.

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jaysblue

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I glanced at CuJo's season to season save % and nothing popped but maybe some of those years with Toronto ranked well if league offense was high.

 

But even if he WAS rock solid it would only have been for a 2 year period.

 

I honestly think you have to go allllllllllllllll the way back to a 42 year old Jacques Plante in 1970-71 to find the last Leafs goalie who was truly elite. 51 years and counting.

 

All of the decent ones between then and now have been like top 10 guys at best.

 

In each of his four seasons with the Leafs, they made the Playoffs and some of those years performed really well in the Playoffs. They ran into some tough New Jersey Devils teams I recall two of those four years.

 

Save percentages in the Playoffs were .907, .932, .927 and .914 over his four seasons.

 

He almost got them to the Stanley Cup in 2001-2002. Lost to Carolina in the Eastern Conference Finals.

 

He's probably been the Leafs best goalie over the last two decades & counting.

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jaysblue

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It's amazing really.

 

Looking to the rivals, since 1970 the Habs have had Dryden, Roy, Price, and even Jose Theodore who at his peak was at least better than any goalie Toronto has found or made in 51+ years.

 

Imagine if the Maple Leafs had a goalie like those guys for 5 to 10 years.

 

Jose Theodore was top notch. I heard his problem was he enjoyed the Montreal nightlife and girls too much afterwards haha.

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jaysblue

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Who have the Leafs developed in net is what I always go back to? Potvin...although not a perennial All-Star by any means, had a few seasons where he was a legit #1 goalie. He was drafted in 1990. Leafs drafted Rask but Fergie couldn't trade him to Boston fast enough...and they developed Reimer...who, although has had a couple of flashes of good play, has essentially been a journeyman guy. Over 30 years since they've drafted, developed, and reaped some benefits of a #1 goalie. It really is quite remarkable.

 

Reimer was never the same after his injury. I think he had some nice potential.

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I glanced at CuJo's season to season save % and nothing popped but maybe some of those years with Toronto ranked well if league offense was high.

 

But even if he WAS rock solid it would only have been for a 2 year period.

 

I honestly think you have to go allllllllllllllll the way back to a 42 year old Jacques Plante in 1970-71 to find the last Leafs goalie who was truly elite. 51 years and counting.

 

All of the decent ones between then and now have been like top 10 guys at best.

 

Eddie was pretty dominant in 2002-2004 - even at age 37/38.

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Spanky99

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Matt Murray left practice with a groin injury, Kallgren was hurt last night in the AHL and Woll is on the IR... looking like Leafs have to sign someone to an ATO to backup Samsonov. Woof...
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Horses Fart

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Matt Murray left practice with a groin injury, Kallgren was hurt last night in the AHL and Woll is on the IR... looking like Leafs have to sign someone to an ATO to backup Samsonov. Woof...

 

Good help us. Like seriously WTF did Dubas do this? Murray’s track record is just horrible.

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Spanky99

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Good help us. Like seriously WTF did Dubas do this? Murray’s track record is just horrible.

 

It's alright bro, Samsonov will run with it now, I like him better.

 

Wow... Murray's been put on the LTIR???

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It's alright bro, Samsonov will run with it now, I like him better.

 

Wow... Murray's been put on the LTIR???

 

I know I’m just pissed. lol. I’d rather Samsonov also , it was sure nice to have gotten a look a Kallgren last season now.

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I know I’m just pissed. lol. I’d rather Samsonov also , it was sure nice to have gotten a look a Kallgren last season now.

 

He played 14 games last season dude, GO LEAFS GO!!!

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