Report: Blue Jays Will Listen To Trade Offers for José Berríos

It would be a Festivus Miracle if Boss Atkins could move his contract.

1 hour ago, Spanky__99 said:

It would be a Festivus Miracle if Boss Atkins could move his contract.

Berrios is guaranteed 3/66 if he opts in (could be 3/68 if he reaches innings thresholds next season). Eating half of that money puts him at 3/33, which is probably closer to the type of value he would have if he were a FA right now. It's probably doable in that scenario. Just a matter of how much money the Jays are willing to cover. I kinda like the idea of trading Berrios and using the money saved on Bassitt. In that scenario the Jays would maintain their SP depth but with someone who doesn't look washed and who is willing to pitch out of the pen (effectively) if a need arises. I guess it depends on how much money the Jays actually have to spend this winter. 

There's definitely teams who would like him as an innings eater if the Jays are eating 20-30 million of that contract. Whether its straight cash or taking another teams bad contract I think it's very doable and any savings you can get would be considered a win to reallocate those funds that will help this Baseball team.

6 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

It would be a Festivus Miracle if Boss Atkins could move his contract.

Manaea is getting 22 mil a year.  Pitching is expensive.  Berrios has a 17 mil luxury tax hit which matters if he goes to a luxury tax payor.  I think you could move him.  Might have to kick a little money in, but not that much.

4 hours ago, John_Havok said:

I really think people need to move on from this love affair with Bassitt.

Yeah this whole Bassitt/Scherzer thing is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

If we are dumping Berrios to save some money, we arent then turning around and giving that money right back to Bassitt who could fall off a cliff at any moment.

1 hour ago, DonJays said:

Yes, it’s getting pretty bizarre. Great dude but definitely don’t want him back. We need to improve 

I would have welcomed him back before the Ponce signing. Now he doesn’t fit on this roster 

13 hours ago, John_Havok said:

I really think people need to move on from this love affair with Bassitt.

It’s not a “love affair” with Bassitt (with me at least, can’t speak for anyone else), it’s a way to trade Berrios without impacting SP depth. Replace Bassitt in my scenario with anyone who could conceivably be a ~2 WAR depth SP with positional flexibility (SP/RP) and the same applies. Find 2015 Marco Estrada somewhere. Removing Berrios is more about his ego and the clunky roster fit (not factoring contract). Having six big league SPs is actually a good idea that I am warming up to even if it causes a glut, especially since we don’t know what we’re getting with Ponce, and Lauer is a big regression candidate.

16 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

It would be a Festivus Miracle if Boss Atkins could move his contract.

Sometimes miracles do happen and you can end up moving the immovable....

1 hour ago, Omar said:

Sometimes miracles do happen and you can end up moving the immovable....

So, find a dummy, lol.

26 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

So, find a dummy, lol.

Hello, LA Angels, I have a deal for you!

20 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

It would be a 22 million dollar hit after a trade as the luxury tax numbers are recalculated when traded to include only the remainder of the the contract.  

Yeah Berrios has an $18.7M CBT hit for the Jays as long as he's with the team (even in 2027-28 when he's making $24-25M annually, he will count as $18.7M in the calculations), but that changes if he's traded based on what's left on the contract. The only thing I'm unclear on is how player options work in the calculation if he's traded. I'm assuming they are counted as guaranteed years, but they technically aren't guaranteed years since an option is involved. Does Berrios count as a $22M tax hit for the new team (18-24-24) regardless of what happens with the options, or $18M in 2026 and $24M in 2027-28 when options are picked up? I'm guessing it's $22M regardless, which does make him a bit less appealing for teams who are carefully looking at the CBT money. 

All I want for Christmas is him off my Baseball team.

On 12/4/2025 at 1:23 PM, mphenhef said:

It would be a 22 million dollar hit after a trade as the luxury tax numbers are recalculated when traded to include only the remainder of the the contract.  

I actually wasn't aware of that.  Giminez is making 96 ml with us yet his luxury tax number is 15.2, not 19....not sure why that is. 

On 12/4/2025 at 1:42 PM, glory said:

Yeah Berrios has an $18.7M CBT hit for the Jays as long as he's with the team (even in 2027-28 when he's making $24-25M annually, he will count as $18.7M in the calculations), but that changes if he's traded based on what's left on the contract. The only thing I'm unclear on is how player options work in the calculation if he's traded. I'm assuming they are counted as guaranteed years, but they technically aren't guaranteed years since an option is involved. Does Berrios count as a $22M tax hit for the new team (18-24-24) regardless of what happens with the options, or $18M in 2026 and $24M in 2027-28 when options are picked up? I'm guessing it's $22M regardless, which does make him a bit less appealing for teams who are carefully looking at the CBT money. 

That's actually not true.  I just checked.  Giminez' luxury tax number with the Guardians in 2024 was the same as it is with us.  Once the contract is set the Luxury tax number is set and does not change even if traded.  Berrios number is 18.7.  I originally said 17 going off memory but my memory isn't that good.  

Berrios' luxury tax number only helps the teams who actually pay luxury tax penalties.  Still of the teams that take him on, it's more than likely going to be a luxury tax payor  Maybe the Mets?  Regardless we have to pay down his salary if we trade him.

2 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

I would guess that spotrac has that wrong.

No...You're wrong.  That or Spotrac and Google Gemini are both wrong..lol

I don't like Giminez at 15.2 mil luxury tax number.  At 19, I'd really not like that number.  As much as I agree with trading Berrios even if we have to pay some money to do it to free up salary, I think we should do the same with Giminez.  I don't like the value on that contract.  Not sure who would take Giminez though.