Dagagad

The Yankees just swept the rays scoring more than 3 runs once. They scored 4 in that game. They had more than 5 hits in zero of those games.

We have the worst bullpen in our division by FIP.

If the hitting prospect is the same FV as the pitching prospect, you really need to be getting more back. Maybe Gilbert is better?

Houston almost certainly have quality pitching depth. I’d totally be down with trading Jansen for two relievers with big stuff like the rays/brewers trade last year. They could probably use a catcher.

That strategy can work but you need to be really good at pitching dev and game planning like the rays are. And even then the rays are willing to trade for relief help. We aren’t good enough at pitching dev.

You can’t win lol. If he left stripling in and he got rocked, the same people would be wondering why he didn’t bring in Thornton.

I like this front office but they’ve been here a while and they haven’t shown an ability to really develop starting or relief pitching compared to our current two main rivals (rays and Yankees). That’s a high bar because that might be the two best teams in baseball at it but still. It’s kind of a weakness. With starting pitching we’ve been willing to throw money and assets at it. But with relief pitching, we are just ways behind our rivals. It’s our Achilles heel. This lineup with rays pitching, pitching development and so on would be amazing.

This drove me mental last year. I thought we should have been making more bullpen moves than we did and I thought they should have been done earlier. This year it’s not nearly as bad so I wouldn’t expect any moves. It is a little disappointing that we don’t seem able to develop our own flamethrowers though. Our pitching development has been getting better but we are still behind the best teams. We don’t seem to be able to just manufacture enough of our own pitching, we don’t trade real assets for relief and we don’t spend a lot in free agency. Hence we have a mediocre pen.

Rays lost so not all bad.

I mean, right now the Yankees are on pace to be like the best team in mlb history. There probably should be a gap.

Whether we like it or not, it’s a conscious policy of this front office to put very little resources into the pen. That’s the way they do it. It was way worse last year and they traded trash to get cimber and richards. We probably should just reconcile ourselves to that and maybe not always pretend it’s Charlie’s fault that he picked crap pitcher 1 vs crap pitcher 2.

Oh my bad, they should have used Beasley there! He’s the other guy whose gone multiple innings. Charlie is such a dumb ass. Beasley should never have been sent down by Charlie!

Charlie keeps messing up on which mediocre to bad bullpen arm to use. He should have used Richards there!

I wonder if Adrian pinto is injured. He was listed at CF the other day and then didnÂ’t play. HasnÂ’t played since.

I wonder if we will go heavy hitters after going heavy on pitchers last year.

I’m pretty excited about the draft. The two extra picks make it exciting. Does that give us enough extra pool money where we can play some games here and grab 2/3 first round talents instead of one? Also, random question but when the Mets didn’t take rocker last year,.. I know they get the pick and the extra money this year. Where they allowed to also spend their full pool last year?

Thoughts from the game tonight. I didn’t watch every pitch because it was dog night at the stadium and there were lots of cute dogs. There was also some kind of weird high school reunion in front of us full of weird people that my wife and I were keeping an eye on. I was down the third base line so I couldn’t tell strikes and balls. Zulueta looked wild to me. I only saw one breaking ball thrown for a strike. The catcher moved a ton. He didn’t do that so much with the other pitchers. 2 wild pitches/passed ball, one HBP (I think) and some walks. He got hit hard once for a homer as well. The reason I thought he was wild because you could just tell from the hitters that it wasn’t close at times. They were reacting more to lower velocity later in the game. Wasn’t his best night. He sat 95/96 and reached 98/99. His breaking balls aren’t as hard as I expected. Low 80s topping at 84. I expected a harder slider or something. He has a super easy delivery. It seemed so easy for him to pump mid to high 90s. Starters body for sure. Hunter Bishop smashed a home run for Eugene later in the game.

I’m down the third base line so I can’t tell, but he seems pretty wild to me. Catcher moving a ton. One passed ball was defiantly on the catcher tho. He’s not really getting any swings on his breaking stuff.

I’m at the game! I’ll give updates.

I kind of want the Rays to lose tonight. It’s more important to build and maintain a cushion on them than it is to catch the yankees.

Every pitcher has a blow up outing now and again, and that can especially happen when things don’t go right in the field behind you.

Houston seems like a perfect match there. They usually have pitching depth and they probably have a need at catcher.

I know it’s just an illustrative example, but I wouldn’t do the Lopez deal or the bumgarner one. I’d want more than 2 1/2 years of control for Moreno. It needs to be a great young pitcher who is still pre arb.

If he comes back reasonably soon and hits, I think he’s worth quite a bit. I find it hard to get a handle on catcher value though. The problem is that you really need to be trading him to a contender or team that thinks they will contend next year. Like, Pittsburgh is out for example.

I’d trade Jansen at the deadline to someone like Houston who probably have excess pitching and need a catcher. There’s risk there but it’s the best way to improve the team and save the farm for additions next year.