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  1. The people I listen to have only been saying it for like 2/3 years and just pitching. I don’t know if it’s true or not but I believe it. I’m not worried worried. I just think we aren’t close to elite in that area and that’s the kind of thing that extends windows.
  2. I think they were also one of the first teams with rapsodo (sp?) machines out there and just signing guys based on spin rates and so on.
  3. I think Houston were also honestly ahead of everyone 5/6 years ago in talent ID of teenage pitchers in Latin countries. I think I read somewhere that they went for older pitchers and were ahead in what they were looking for.
  4. One of the reasons I believe in seattle is that they are a team I hear mentioned by ‘smart’ writers when they talk about teams at the cutting edge of pitching dev. You hear about them, the Yankees and the astros alot. I also hear Cleveland, miami, Tampa bay, minnesota (once I think) and Milwaukee.. and of course the dodgers but that seems almost more talent ID with them. I worry about Baltimore and even the Red Sox because they are Houston and Tampa guys. I tend to believe short term things that could be alot of luck when it’s backed by anecdotal stuff, especially anecdotes I heard a while back before all the results started coming in. I agree on the most sustainable approach. Hopefully we get there.
  5. I don’t know if I buy it takes that long for results to show in the pen. A lot of Seattle's work has been done in the last few years for example. I completely buy that argument with starting pitching. I just think that 29th in that category after 6 years is just too low. Even if you decided to put very little resources into it, there should be more good stuff in the pen with a smart FO. One caveat, is that the last draft and some comments from atkins indicate that they were and are behind in terms of pitching depth. So, it’s a known issue. I could buy the idea that this is something they are now addressing differently.
  6. I don’t think almost losing Romano is some kind of red flag. Every team has something like that (Cortes on the Yankees is an example) and I’m not sure I even disagree with their policy of not putting resources into the bullpen. The problem is that they have very few of the ‘player they identified from another org and unlocked nasty stuff via some kind of change/development’ types. It’s a pitching dev thing or a player identification thing or both. But, we are obviously not among the elite in this area at all, and it’s a problem. Edit: more of a longer term problem. It just seems hard to sustain long term success this way. We need to produce our own pitchers like we produce our own hitters.
  7. We are also 29th in swinging strike rate with relievers. We don’t produce or acquire relievers with swing and miss. To me that a pitching dev thing. Most of the teams at the top of the list developed that themselves to some extent via some combo of smart acquisitions and development.
  8. We aren’t bad. We have a decent amount of success. I just don’t think we have anywhere near as much success as other teams, especially in relief pitching.
  9. Something I’ve been feeling for a while, not just from tonight’s game, but if you are talking about the very cutting edge of pitch development and pitch design, we probably aren’t even a top 10 team in baseball. I feel like we are on the hitting side probably. It’s a problem. Maybe this is already being addressed and we will see the fruits soon… but man looking at Tampa bay, Houston, Yankees, seattle, Miami, Cleveland, even Baltimore now … we aren’t close. It’s also baffling because these guys came from Cleveland.
  10. DSL jays walked 17 times today. I’m not even sure what you are learning from that game.
  11. Phelps was honestly kind of unlucky but that can happen when you can’t strike guys out.
  12. That looked like a slider that didn’t dip enough but still lowish.
  13. Fair enough. It does mean that there’s no world where we NEED this or that player for the playoffs though. If a team is good enough to get in, they are good enough to win.
  14. How many years do teams like the braves have to win before we realize that the playoffs are luck?
  15. That’s been the case for a while. The Red Sox have been less than 7 games behind for a while.
  16. Phelps got kind of unlucky there but it would sure be nice to have some guys who can strike people out.
  17. I think if you trade someone like Franco for ‘fair value’ for multiple pieces and he goes on to hit his upside, you could end up losing your job. That’s an incredibly risky thing to do. A big part of being a superstar is that all that value is condensed into roster spot. If the front office is down on Moreno or Kirk they might trade them. I could see that. But if they aren’t, then it won’t be simply about comparing offers.
  18. I think this is what people tell themselves but when I look at past trades, it seems to almost never happen unless a team is rebuilding. Teams rarely trade absolutely top level prospects any more and they basically never trade the best guy when they have a logjam at a position. Maybe this one will be the exception. For example, I absolutely do not believe that you could have gotten Franco for anything less than 200% of what the rays believe the middle range of projected value to be. Whereas, they probably sold low on Adames. Teams just don’t trade the best guy.
  19. The idea that teams don’t have strong preferences on who they want to keep and judge solely by offers received is asinine. Sure there is some offer they would accept but for some players it’s 130% of their perceived value and for some it’s 100% or less. Very few teams ever trade the best player and keep the lesser ones because they got a better offer. It basically never happens.
  20. Yea yea I know, we should trade anyone on the team depending on the deal we get. I got it.
  21. The more I think about it, I’d keep all three catchers to the off-season. Reason being is that Jansen is the one I want to trade, and there’s bound to be 4/5 teams who think they will be contenders who need catching as well as all the contenders. Trade prospects at the deadline and then get others back in the off-season. More likely to pull off a steal that way.
  22. So, what you are saying is that he had mono, he came back and then he picked up another injury that they weren’t sure was going to be long term serious or not, so they didn’t publicize the results? That’s possible.
  23. Yes, mono can effect you for a long time. I don’t see any benefit to anyone for hiding MRI results. I think you are reaching.
  24. 2 more years of control, a decent sample of good offensive play and average to good behind the plate. If he comes back and plays well, and stays healthy… it should be a decent return. He would be an upgrade right now to a number of playoff teams.
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