Dagagad

I’d do the first trade and stop right there. That would really help our pen and it’s not outside the bounds of reality that brown becomes a starter down the road.

He was speaking off the cuff man, come on!

I guess… I don’t see how there is any other way arizona could be right but whatever.

The thing about last season that didn’t make sense to me at the time was that we knew in may that the bullpen was destroying us. We knew we had an underlying good team statistically. So, the obvious answer is to overpay for multiple relievers right then and as soon as possible. Instead, we got great deals on two relievers but too late. That’s all in retrospect but this was stuff I was saying at the time in may last year. Go out and make some bad trades for relievers where you know at the time that you got ripped off in the trade, and probably by a lot. The Sportsnet propoganda network kept telling us how hard it is to make early trades for relievers when it isn’t hard.. it’s just hard to make FAIR trades. Why did they have to be fair? Overpay. At the time, I thought it meant that we weren’t going to go crazy at the deadline but then we made a massive trade for berrios even though our playoff odds were just good enough to justify it. Those actions didn’t seem to be consistent to me. I think there’s a lot of ego and ass covering involved in these jobs. You don’t want to lose trades (especially obvious losses at the time of the trade) and you don’t want to do anything outside the norm like make overpay trades way before the deadline, because teams don’t do that. If that goes wrong idiots will destroy you instead of the manager even though it was the logical thing to do. In saying all that, in the grand scheme that’s a minor enough quibble. The main problem with this front office is that we are in a division with two top 5 front offices in the entire league. And the other two teams are run by guys who come from front offices that are top 5 in the league. If we were in the AL central none of this would matter.

But they aren’t right after all. Bergman has produced more value since he was drafted.

It’s relevant if he’s saying the d backs were right to draft him. Which is what was said or heavily implied. What else does ‘dbacks was right’ mean?

Samad Taylor, another home run tonight. So far 11%bb, 21%k, 1.70 iso, and a 3.55 obp with a normal babip for him. He hasn’t maintained all the power from last year but he’s certainly cut the strikeouts. That’s still only a 112 WRC+ and he has only really played LF and 2B this year, and he’s another rightie. He’s really started to hit the last couple of weeks tho so let’s see if it continues. He’s still only 23 so I’m still interested.

Message to the front office. “I came from Tampa. I know what good pitching looks like and this isn’t good pitching. Are we trying to win or not?” Something along those lines.

Honestly, I feel like this backs up my point and also doesn’t, springer and Correa are gone. Most of this team was built when they were good and/or via international FA or lower rounds of the draft. However, they did get Tucker at the tail end of those high draft picks which has helped massively. I personally see the Cubs and the Astros as opposites. The cubs tanked, built position player depth and then traded for pitching and bought it. Won a World Series but could not maintain the pipeline. Houston did all that but then also produced a ton of home grown pitching on the tail end and kept the whole thing going. I

That’s almost a good thing to me. Bo and vlad haven’t really started going the way we know they can and we are still in a good spot.

You could say that both those guys just physically didn’t have it for those positions whereas Bo easily has it for second, and there’s a ton of overlap with shortstop. I see your point tho.

I’m fine with either way honestly. There is probably stuff they are working on in Vancouver.

I think if he’s good enough, put him up. Arms only have so many pitches in them. Don’t waste them in the minors. If he’s good enough, promote him. Maybe he’ll shove and we’ll see him late next year. I’d agree though that that decision depends on way more than his box score.

I’d say eye test and analytically he’s not great at short stop. The question is does he have the potential to be average there (it would be valuable to have his bat at short stop over the length of his contract) and can we afford to wait? There just anything to say he is even average there right now imo.

I think all 4 of their homegrown pitchers were international free agents. I see what you mean man, and maybe I’m being a downer here but they’ve sustained success WAY beyond that at this point.I think a lot of that first wave or two are gone at this point. Also, the jays might get there but I expected us to be farther along in this particular area by now. We still could get there tho.

Extremely good analytics and development. I guess. What do you mean?

Dahian Santos (who I hope becomes so famous my phone stops changing his name to Fabian) pitched a gem today. 7 k, 2BB, 2H, 0ER over 5 innings Maybe he replaces zulueta in high A?

When we start banging out cheap starting pitching like they do, I’ll believe we are as good as the astros as an org. We might end up being better than them as a team this year, but they will be good for a long time the way they are run.

I don’t want to be good. I want to be the astros (possibly minus the cheating).

Our problem is that we have average to good pitching dev and we are in a division with two teams with excellent pitching dev and two teams run by people from orgs with excellent pitching dev. It’s the difference between the consistent winners and the others. We need to get better. A lot better in that area.

Sox starting to look very Rays like. Weird relievers out the yazoo and always seem to be in games. I wish our window had of lined up to get their gm.

Maybe, it’s not service time. But someone said he can refuse. I looked it up. It was stoeton on Twitter but he doesn’t say why. So, provisionally, I’ll say he can be sent down.

I think playing a position that he isn’t really good enough to play might be hurting him as well honestly. I don’t know why we don’t just play Espinal there now at least a few times a week. Give him a few days at an easier position. We don’t need to appease him and he’s not really the kind of player that you want to give an early extension to.

I saw on Reddit that he has enough service time that he can refuse.

Fake injury plus rehab assignment.