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In a perfect world the Jays land Imai and he turns into a stud, Yesavage proves to be a legit, sustainable stud, and Ricky T comes back, lights up AAA and by mid season makes his way onto the MLB roster and is also a stud. Three headed SP monster for the next decade.
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I imagine the Mets are trying very hard to land Tucker. Not that this trade would make much difference with that.
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I wouldn't be mad if they signed Belly, but I'd rather they sign two TOR SP's instead if that's all they could fit in the budget.
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Signing Bo and Cease would put the Jays close to 90 win projection.
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Just gimme..... - One bat (Bo, Tucker, Bregman) - One TOR SP (Cease, Imai, Suarez) - One high leverge BP arm (Diaz, Suarez, Helsley, Fairbanks) Given there will only be so many teams in serious bidding for some or all of these players (Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Phillies, Cubs, Jays), and given that the Jays are a proven contender with willingness to spend, we should hopefully be able to land one of each of those guys. And if the Jays are willing to break the bank in 2026, just keep on signing guys haha.
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All 5 AL east teams in the top 16 and all 5 projected for .500 or better.
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Jeff Passan Links Blue Jays to Cody Bellinger
Eat My Shatkins replied to Bryan Jaeger's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I'd rather have Bregman than Bellinger. And honestly, before those two I'd rather just stack the rotation as an option, if spending is limited. -
Nah, I'd rather know where the big pieces fall earlier on and have a pretty good idea what the final roster will look like. This slow burn is just months and months of "ifs" and "maybe's". Each to their own I guess.
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My gawd baseball free agency suxxxxxxxxx
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Teams like TO don't need to take risks like this. They'll go year by year and if he develops into an ace, when the time comes they will happily pay him like an ace.
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If the Jays are willing to match whatever offer he gets, I can't see him walking.
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Depends on how good Bieber and Yesavage are. They both have top of rotation upside. Either way, it was good enough to win 104 games last year with limited contributions from those two key pieces, and with Berrios clearly pitching hurt as the season went on. He's not that far removed from being a 3+ fWAR pitcher and game 1 playoff starter. And the insurance would be having likely one of the best offenses and defenses in MLB.
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If they did what I said in the post you quoted, the Jays would have the all the starters they had last season, except they would have Bieber, Yesavage and Lauer right from day one. They'd also have Francis back probably. 1. Gausman 2. Bieber 3. Yesavage 4. Bassitt 5. Berrios 6. Scherzer 7. Lauer 8. Francis That's pretty insane starting pitching depth in it's own right. Especially with the best defense in baseball playing behind them, and an offense that includes Vladdy, Springer, Bo, Tucker, Kirk, Barger, Varsho and Santander.
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Who knows, maybe the Jays do have a limit to their spending, but fancy both Tucker and Bo. And if they can land both maybe they just toss $15 million at Bassitt, $10 million at Scherzer and baby the starters all year while the offense pummels the s*** out of everybody. Keep all the big arms somewhat rested and have them all healthy and clicking late in the season for playoff time. Not sure if it was on purpose, but it worked for the Dodgers. Snell, Ohtani and Glasnow hardly pitched last season until later on.
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Yep, but he's no longer a prospect. Full time MLB player now, and very similar to Clement. The other one they have similar to Clement is Xavier Edwards.
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The Marlins already have two Clements kind of. One of them used to be a Blue Jay. 2+ fWAR middle IF's who get most of their value defensively
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The bullpen is interesting to me. Since the start of the off season they've lost quite a bit of the depth. It is a little concerning. Burr, Tate and Sandlin all out righted and gone to free agency. Yimi coming back but is 35 and missed 3/4 of last season. Yariel, Little and Fisher all got progressively worse as the season went on and Little will likely have confidence issues after what happened to him in the post season. I'm sure they'll bring in some good arms to help depth wise, or maybe they have a few in house already. Still though, I'd love to see them bring in a couple good leverage arms if they are going to spend. Suarez 2x30 and Fairbanks 2x16 would look really good on paper. And if Yimi comes back strong the back end of that BP could be killer. CL - Suarez SU8 - Fairbanks SU7 - Hoffman MR - Garcia MR - Varland MR - Flu (L) MR - Little (L) Fisher, Rodriguez, Bruihl, etc
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For sure, but it'd be better (in my opinion) to give up something other than Clement to get Alcantara if he's available. If that won't work, then just give up the money it takes to bring in a free agent starter. They should be keeping this team intact and adding to it, not robbing peter to pay paul.
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....yeah and there are better ways to add to the SP depth than trading for it and weakening the IF depth. That's the point. Why trade Clement for SP depth when he's a big part of what the Jays do when they can just sign it in free agency or trade from the prospect pool to acquire it?
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In my scenario the reason would be to add prospects from the Jays system that they like. And Berrios contract isn't that bad if the Jays eat some of it and he gives them 170 or so innings and 1.5 to 2.0 fWAR
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He's a dump dude. Hence why the Jays would have to eat some of the contract. They do it for the prospects they'd be adding. But even as a "dump" Berrios is still a useful mid to back of rotation starter who can chew up the innings Alcantara would have, and he's still projected for 1.6 fWAR. (Alcantara projected 2.5 fWAR) Jays would giving up the prospect capital to gain the upside a guy like Alcantara has if he regains his pre TJS form.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the Jays build a trade around Berrios for Alcantara. Jays could eat some money and add in prospects. Still go out and try to add Cease or Imai as well. 1. Gausman 2. Bieber 3. Yesavage 4. Cease / Imai 5. Alcantara Has potential to be the best rotation the Jays have ever had.
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I'm hoping so. They'll be a good team even if they don't, but it'd be fun to load up like for at least one season.
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I can't speak to Laika's plan, but my plan would be to keep the 94 win team that went to the world series as in tact as possible and add to it via free agency.
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If they can't get Bo or Tucker I'd just go with option 5. SS Giminez 2B Clement 3B Barger Plus Schneider (2B), Jiminez and Kasevich as MIF depth. Then load up on pitching if possible.
