Yep and the young arms you wanted to keep may have turned into Isringhausen, Pulsipher and Paul Wilson. You can sit there and play the "what if" game all you want man. Best of luck with that.
I guess you could call both options. They could stay on and be Shapiro's little bitches. Chance they both leave too. Nish is my boy so I am rooting for him.
That was my point. Jays started this season with the 10th highest payroll in MLB, in 2008 Riccardi started with the 13th highest...just a couple mill out of 10th...
seriously man? The Donaldson trade alone counterbalances all 3 of those players. Then add Tulo, Price, Travis, Stro, traded Wells, Osuna, Sanchez, Pompey, Martin...
Pretty tough to make those assumptions.
Shapiro offers him a 1 year deal for $200 and all the gyro's he can eat and cuts half his responsibilities and you'd suggest this isn't Shapiro's fault? Lets get some facts first. It's like you've already forgotten about JP Riccardi man.
Shapiro hasn't even started the job yet and he's already the most hated man in Toronto.
He's going to need half price prostitute days at the dome this summer to regain the fans support!
That's why I say one or the other. I think Sanchez is remarkably more valuable as a reliever (although he wants to start) and Osuna is way more valuable as a starter (although he said he likes the bullpen). That said - we know Sanchez will be stretched out.
Agreed - a very difficult situation. I guess ideally you start him in AA/AAA, limit his innings/usage early, keep his innings down and then have him ready to come up and help in the 2nd half and into the playoffs. Just not sure our pitching will be good enough to leave him in the minors for 1/2 the season.
I worry he's going to opt in and attempt to rebuild his value and cash in next year. Coming into this season, he was lining himself up for a big 6 year $120M contract - then he s*** the bed.
I'd love to see the Jays give him a 2 year $30M contract with a club option or something...although I have no idea what the market for him will be...I kind of think it will be in the 4 year $50M range.....still don't hate that though.
I think Stro, Hutch and Osuna/Sanchez (hopefully Osuna) will be in the rotation and they'll have to get creative on how to limit the innings from Osuna/Sanchez. They need make a decision on Dickey and I suspect he'll be back (not that I love it). I think they have to get 2 starting pitchers which can be relied upon and then they need to re-stock AAA and/or their bullpen with 6th starter depth guys.
Personally, I don't see Colon as a fit at all. If we keep Dickey, I think we need someone who's more of a upper tier starter (Price, Shark, etc.) and Colon isn't signing here as our #6 guy. The only way he fits is if they don't pick up Dickey's option and even then, I'm not sure I consider Colon reliable at 43 and 320 lbs.
You're right - they don't. Over the past 3 years his WAR has dropped, FIP & ERA have rose. I get he's been productive, but he's 43 and resembles a butterball. Let's aim higher.
That's what I was thinking.
I was hoping the Jays could get him for 2 years with a slightly higher AAV - as a 3 year commitment makes me very nervous giving the track record.
I don't wish serious injury upon anyone.....anyone who isn't named Yordano Ventura...I think MLB really needs a serious accident to promote the use of the "pitcher helmets"...hopefully we'll see pitchers wearing them next year.
I was thinking the same thing during this segment. I thought surely to god one of these maroons is going to say "well we could go as far back as the '93 Blue Jays, who's pitching was abysmal with Ace Jack Morris rocking a 6.19 ERA, Dave Stewart at 4.44 ERA, Guzman walking 4.5 per 9 to a 3.99 ERA and Stottlemyer with a 4.84 ERA"
But no - heaven forbid these guys do a hint of research before being paid to speak on the topic.