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  1. glory
    The fact that the Jays are allegedly still in the running for Ohtani is an accomplishment in itself even if he signs elsewhere. At this rate I just want him to sign somewhere, Toronto or otherwise, just so the off season can finally get moving.
  2. glory
    Suarez would have been a solid stop gap, but if they are saving bullets for a chance at a bigger target (Ohtani, Soto, whoever) then he's too flawed to tie up payroll room on this early in the winter.
  3. glory
    I think Ohtani's deal will end up being closer to $600m than $500m. If he didn't have to miss 2024 as a pitcher and could have marketed himself as a two way player, then it would have cleared $600m, IMO. You're not going to see this type of FA for a long time. Between the uniqueness of his talent + the revenue he can generate, this will be a massive contract. Wouldn't shock me if there's an opt out after year 2 so he can re-enter the market in 2026 after presumably pitching an entire season in 2025, but that depends on what his goals are.
  4. glory
    Atkins mentioned keeping an eye on long term, so Tiedemann for Soto would conflict with that thinking, but I'm not sure they could get Soto and beat whatever the Yankees are offering without Tiedemann involved. If the Jays are legitimately in on Ohtani, which will be at least a $500m commitment, then I don't see why they couldn't reallocate that to Soto if they were to trade for him. Although with Boras involved, Soto is almost certainly testing free agency first, which would complicate things.
  5. glory
    This is my prediction as well. If the Jays miss on Ohtani, then they'll end up with Soto, though I do expect the cost to be something significant (Tiedemann), unless Preller is infatuated with Manoah.
  6. glory
    If Atkins can gain some good young players with post 2025 control in return then there’s definitely upside with a trade. Between the extra Wild Card spot and the Jays willingness to spend, keeping the train moving post 2025 is a much better alternative than going all in for 2024-25 and having to rebuild after. They always had to factor the balancing act between being competitive and building for the future. If they aren’t going to extend anyone (they don’t even want to extend Jansen from the sounds of it), and the farm system isn’t churning out talent like the O’s have recently, then they have to make trades like this eventually.
  7. glory
    Is there any team with more than one Japanese player on it? Jays have Kikuchi, Cubs have Suzuki, Mets have Senga, Red Sox have Yoshida, Padres have Darvish, and Ohtani/Maeda are FA’s. Can’t think of anyone else. Kooch better be putting in that work recruiting.
  8. glory
    If this is a Morosi generated rumor, then it's just him getting off on whatever engagement it leads to. In other words, the norm for him.
  9. glory
    Eugenio Suarez traded to the D-Backs.
  10. glory
    Yeah Bo on a long term deal is not going to end well for whoever signs him, IMO. His current performance, while excellent, is probably his ceiling, and he has a very risky offensive profile as he ages. I could see the logic in moving him whether he was difficult to sign or not, but once you factor in that he seems to want to test FA to maximize his earnings, it becomes a lot more justifiable to sell high. The issue for the Jays is they have a small window to contend right now so while moving him might make sense from a sustainability standpoint, it might hinder their ability to contend in 2024 depending on who they get back and/or who they get to replace him. Maybe you make a deal with the Cubs (Morel, etc) and then make a separate deal for someone like Willy Adames (who I'm assuming would be easier to extend but who knows), and the team wouldn't lose that much. I don't know, seems super unlikely that the Jays would do it, but who knows what's going on behind the scenes.
  11. glory
    Well if they want to move off the Vlad/Bo core then moving Bo makes more sense right now since the return would be remarkably better and he seems much more difficult to sign long term, but I can’t see a scenario where they trade him and the 2024 team is better because of it. There would have to be a lot more moving pieces involved. With that said, I highly doubt it happens this winter.
  12. glory
    With 4 years of control left and making the league minimum in 2024. At this rate ask for Jordan Walker in return and see what happens.
  13. glory
    Based on what the Cardinals have done so far, there’s no doubt that their interest in Manoah is genuine.
  14. glory
    Ohtani to the Dodgers is realistic/likely, but no way Moreno allows Trout to be traded to the Dodgers. I don't think Trout will be moved, but if he is, then it has Dave Dombrowski written all over it, and the location would make sense as well.
  15. glory
    Yeah this is not the market to go with multi year deals on non-Ohtani position player free agents, so if the Jays intend on making a "big splash", then Yamamoto (if Ohtani signs elsewhere) is the way to go. Then fill in the cracks with internal options or one year deals.
  16. glory
    Aka Morosi’s entire existence.
  17. glory
    Nola's deal at least makes sense. Dombrowski giving Taijuan Walker what he got last winter was a much more egregious decision.
  18. glory
    I don’t mind trading Manoah, depending on the return, but when Wes Parsons (who I have never heard of) is listed as SP depth, that’s not a good sign. They would definitely need to sign a SP to replace him if he’s moved. If the depth is Tiedemann, White, and Francis behind an established 5, then that’s a bit better.
  19. glory
    From Rosenthal’s latest article:
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  21. glory
    I don’t know about this anymore. A year ago I probably would have agreed with you, but Vlad other than 2021 has been completely replaceable as a talent and Bichette while very good has a very risky long term profile (low BBs, getting slower, etc). I think the Jays could adequately replace those two and still be a reasonably competitive team depending on what other moves they make and/or who pans out internally. Would be a different story if they were 5 WAR players like we expected/hoped. That’s not the case.
  22. glory
    From Rosenthal’s latest article:
  23. glory
    My half joking reaction to that news was to trade Manoah before he throws a pitch with a 15/18 second clock.
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  25. glory
    Macko added to the 40 man.
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