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  1. glory
    Toronto says yes to that (or should). Not sure about the Padres. I actually think if it’s between Manoah and Schmidt, then Preller might prefer Manoah based on past performance, age, and control, but who knows.
  2. glory
    Yeah I was thinking about that earlier. I never see Woj and Shams post rumors or speculation. It’s either actual news or something newsworthy that is going on. Beyond that I can’t even name another NBA reporter because they very rarely trend. Passan is like Woj/Shams so he’s the most reliable follow but literally everyone else in MLB media is obsessed with clicks. Some of that could be just MLB in general having a slow/boring off season every year, so they have to write about something that people will actually read or click on, but it comes off incredibly cheap to me. I had to block Morosi for that reason. I don’t even want to read any of his posts because I know it’s designed for people to click on it rather than post anything significant.
  3. glory
    Rosenthal didn’t cite a source or say “per sources” unless I missed it (only skimmed the article). He just said Ohtani was believed to have met with the Jays. I guess even Ken sold his soul for that sweet clickbait engagement that Morosi lives off of. I only follow Passan and Murray as baseball guys now and that’s probably for the best.
  4. glory
    Yeah no chance he signs for that low. He’s going to want $500m, and possibly more depending on what Ohtani signs for. I doubt he’d extend with any team before testing the market.
  5. glory
    I think what helps this theory is that Soto isn’t Kawhi. Prior to the trade, Kawhi made it known he wanted to play in LA. Didn’t even hint that he’d stay in Toronto. Soto is a Boras guy who is looking to get paid. I don’t think he cares about location. Not sure there is a dollar amount that would make him forgo testing free agency (at least a reasonable one) but the Jays just have to give him the best deal and he’d stay. They won’t have to bend over and do tricks like they are likely doing to get Ohtani now.
  6. glory
    Kelenic from May-onwards last season had a 88 wRC+ in 315 PA (.356 BABIP and 33 K%). Maybe the Braves can fix him (and then sign him to an insulting extension) but taking on $30m of dead money with the hopes of fixing a player is risky. If it works then obviously it will look better.
  7. glory
    No team would take Springer’s contract and the Jays have no one to replace him, so it doesn’t seem very likely that he’s moved. Manoah in the pitch clock era combined with his attitude make him an easy sell here, so if he’s the main guy going to the Padres, then that would work for me.
  8. glory
    I think he’s a big enough name now to still generate revenue/hype but without the “Babe Ruth” aura of being a two way player, it’s difficult to say how sustainable that is. As a great RF, he becomes a bit more human rather than the unicorn he has been.
  9. glory
    I’ve said before I think the Jays will end up with Soto if they don’t get Ohtani so this doesn’t surprise me. Whether this particular report was a leak by the Padres to sucker the Yankees to offer more is also possible.
  10. glory
    Bichette seems to want to test free agency, and Vlad wants an extension but isn’t worth giving one to yet (at least not for the money/years he’d want). There’s a good chance both are gone after 2025, so there should be some flexibility there from a payroll standpoint. Ohtani making $50m a year in his 30’s wouldn’t be ideal from a team building standpoint when he’s in his declining years but if you want elite free agents (and it doesn’t get more elite than him) then you kinda have to live with the dead money in the end. With that said, if the Jays pull off the miracle and sign Ohtani, then they need to step their player development game up. They’ll need some cheap young impact players to fill up some spots that they won’t have as much payroll room to fill via free agency.
  11. glory
    Latest from Rosenthal (re: Soto)
  12. glory
    A 12-13 year deal would take Ohtani to age 40-41, so there would definitely be some dead money in there unless he defies aging on top of all the other great things he can do, but he's not Pujols or Cabrera. Aside from his ability to pitch, he's also a great athlete, plus base runner, and if he needs to take a break from pitching then he can likely transition into a plus defensive OF for a few years, so he'll be able to provide value aside from his bat (which is elite). That's not even factoring the marketing aspect and how much he changes the Jays "brand". So yeah, if the Jays actually pull off this miracle and sign him, you can certainly dread what his production could look like in 2030-35, but I don't think too many Jays fans would care about that in 2023.
  13. glory
    I’m curious to see what he ends up signing for, or even where the offers are now. If the Jays are a finalist, then they’d have to be willing to go at least $500m, as I doubt they would have gotten this far if they weren’t willing to go there, but how much beyond that are they willing to go? I would think they’d have to beat the Dodgers offer by a decent amount to get him. Would Rogers go $600m plus? Regardless hopefully we have an answer by this weekend and the off season can finally progress. Five weeks of dead silence after a historically bad World Series kinda sucks.
  14. glory
    I’d still be shocked if he signs with anyone other than the Dodgers, but the longer this drags out is probably a good thing for the Jays/Cubs.
  15. glory
    In Passan's latest article (behind a paywall so I'm trusting Twitter/X to be accurate here) he confirms that the Dodgers, Jays, Cubs, and Angels are the teams still in the running for Ohtani, while the Rangers, Red Sox, and Mets are turning their attention to other players.
  16. glory
    It will sting more than it should mainly because Passan and Rosenthal confirmed that the Jays were dark horses in this, so it brought credibility to the idea that it could happen. Everything since then is just social media BS with trolls pretending they have sources and all that nonsense.
  17. glory
    The fact that the Jays are allegedly still in the running for Ohtani is an accomplishment in itself even if he signs elsewhere. At this rate I just want him to sign somewhere, Toronto or otherwise, just so the off season can finally get moving.
  18. glory
    Suarez would have been a solid stop gap, but if they are saving bullets for a chance at a bigger target (Ohtani, Soto, whoever) then he's too flawed to tie up payroll room on this early in the winter.
  19. glory
    I think Ohtani's deal will end up being closer to $600m than $500m. If he didn't have to miss 2024 as a pitcher and could have marketed himself as a two way player, then it would have cleared $600m, IMO. You're not going to see this type of FA for a long time. Between the uniqueness of his talent + the revenue he can generate, this will be a massive contract. Wouldn't shock me if there's an opt out after year 2 so he can re-enter the market in 2026 after presumably pitching an entire season in 2025, but that depends on what his goals are.
  20. glory
    Atkins mentioned keeping an eye on long term, so Tiedemann for Soto would conflict with that thinking, but I'm not sure they could get Soto and beat whatever the Yankees are offering without Tiedemann involved. If the Jays are legitimately in on Ohtani, which will be at least a $500m commitment, then I don't see why they couldn't reallocate that to Soto if they were to trade for him. Although with Boras involved, Soto is almost certainly testing free agency first, which would complicate things.
  21. glory
    This is my prediction as well. If the Jays miss on Ohtani, then they'll end up with Soto, though I do expect the cost to be something significant (Tiedemann), unless Preller is infatuated with Manoah.
  22. glory
    If Atkins can gain some good young players with post 2025 control in return then there’s definitely upside with a trade. Between the extra Wild Card spot and the Jays willingness to spend, keeping the train moving post 2025 is a much better alternative than going all in for 2024-25 and having to rebuild after. They always had to factor the balancing act between being competitive and building for the future. If they aren’t going to extend anyone (they don’t even want to extend Jansen from the sounds of it), and the farm system isn’t churning out talent like the O’s have recently, then they have to make trades like this eventually.
  23. glory
    Is there any team with more than one Japanese player on it? Jays have Kikuchi, Cubs have Suzuki, Mets have Senga, Red Sox have Yoshida, Padres have Darvish, and Ohtani/Maeda are FA’s. Can’t think of anyone else. Kooch better be putting in that work recruiting.
  24. glory
    If this is a Morosi generated rumor, then it's just him getting off on whatever engagement it leads to. In other words, the norm for him.
  25. glory
    Eugenio Suarez traded to the D-Backs.
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