Dick_Pole

Haha you bastards are still getting trolled. I knew this was crap as soon as I saw it only had 2 pages of responses and not 465 trillion, threatening to crash this site.

FWIW I'm calling the Jays to have 86 wins and a playoff spot in that other thread so what I could be saying is a total crock of s***. Wasted win unless it avoids a one-game-and-you're-out scenario.

And in my convoluted version of the time value of money, one month that's happening right now is worth more than a year 6-7 years from now. If this is the best team to bring north, then it's the team the Jays should be going with. We can question if that is indeed the case right now, but holding what might be the best players back because of the service time argument is annoying. If that one month of Osuna and Castro brings in an extra 0.1 WAR than the Jays team in the alternate universe that has them in the minors and that 0.1 WAR translates to 86.5 wins rounded up to 87 and a playoff spot versus 86.4 wins rounded down to 86 and a missed playoff spot then this Jays team made the right move. Yes, I know my argument is getting ridiculous but I just want to see this team win for once. I haven't felt this good about this team's chances in years. Anybody who is worried about what might happen in 2021 in the context of this team right now needs a punch to the gut.

There are reasons to be suspect of the move to push these two guys right now but service time several years down the road isn't one of them. There's so much Rays fanboyism here it's rotting some people's minds. This team is owned by Rogers not the poor man living in the shack at the end of the street. If those two young men perform at the MLB level, they'll get paid first at arbitration then heading into free agency and Rogers has the resources and reasonable ability to do so especially once all of AA's brilliant contract trades fall off the books. There's no reason to believe they'll be gone at age 27 or 28. They can be signed to long term deals before that. Plus we'll have 2 CBAs between now and then so who knows what the rules around free agency and comp picks will be by then. I recall that article from several months ago about that study that suggested that players are at their peak potential performance at a young age and just slowly regress from there. If this is true, it'll probably be applicable to two young flamethrowers. These types of guys have an expiry date on them that may be sooner than what we would like. Might as well have those innings logged at the MLB level than wasted in the minors if they are deemed capable maturity/emotionally now. That being said, I would have preferred Delabar make this team and an added bench piece. I put trust in this team's management that they know what they are doing to make the right choice. I may be disappointed as roster management has not been one of AA's bright spots in his career.

8-man bullpen seems idiotic...until we recall what happened early last year. But I expect/hope they get it back down to seven once things have settled down and the pitchers who are in the current spots they are in either prove they can handle those spots or are replaced with pitchers who can.

LOL as if the faux hawk and occasional mullet didn't give that away...at least he doesn't have Colby hair.

Really? That seems excessive. No one who is "confidently dismissing" Sanchez on this message board is going to have a downfall, unless they mortgaged their house betting against him in some sort of prop bet.

86, and they make the playoffs. Parity and a power shift to the NL makes it happen.

So Hoffman and/or Pentecost. I'm not convinced the Dodgers won't try to pry someone off an MLB roster though.

And who do you trade back? Can't fix one whole without making another.

It's the f***ing NBA. All you need is some dude with gold teeth and oversized cheap jewelry saying it while blazing with 50 Cent, eating watermelon and drinking gin and tonic. Good grammar doesn't go well with promoting the "urban" stereotypes that league seems to love.

This is why people outside of Canada think we're all a bunch of dumb hosers here. There are actually people in this country who totally don't get this obvious double entendre. It reminds me a few years ago when the Federal Conservative Party actually wanted to call themselves something that turned into the acronym of "CCRAP" and then they were embarrassed enough into changing it. I guess whoever worked on that a decade ago is working for the Jays' marketing department now. I blame John Tory for this because he's the connection between the conservatives and Rogers.

If the team was in need of a GM, then he might be an option. But I'll vote no if the action is you have to fire AA just to bring in Cashman. If the Jays are going fire AA they might as well interview a whole pool of eligible candidates.

lol what the hell did I just get myself into? I wasn't being 100% serious with my comment but if you want to track it just for kicks like how you describe it sounds like a plan.

I would love to see a baseball game from the 1950's or before that. If the "pace" of the game from the players was any quicker when games lasted less than two hours. You want to know what the big difference between 2015 and 1950? TV, specifically TV commercial breaks. They are attacking the game itself when it's the TV breaks and other frivolities you see at the ballpark (usually to appeal to kids and casual fans in the first place) that are the biggest culprit in slowing things down compared to the old days. Other than my ass being uncomfortable and my legs being cramped in those s***** Rogers Center seats, I really have no need to have the game rushed through. It took me an hour to get downtown I might as well make it a day-long event. But if you're that desperate to speed up the game, why not cut commercial breaks in half and save 30 minutes instead of squeezing the players for 5 minutes? I'm not actually requesting that, but that's the best solution if you want to speed the game up, presumably for the casuals who go to the ballpark. Looks like Manfred is off to a great start, picking up right where steroids boy Selig left off.

And what's amazing about it is that this has generated over 70 responses and people's opinions are all over the map from "Lind's so refreshing and honest" to "Lind's a dolt" to "Lind's a f***ing crybaby I'm glad he is gone". Not so many people are picking up on the context that this Toronto reporter chased this guy down while working with his new team to try to get him to reminisce about his old club. So he's definitely no crybaby at least for this interview. And he's no hero either because I didn't find anything in that interview to be all that refreshing. Just some filler material for a news print business struggling to maintain relevancy in a world where there's a million other websites which will provide superior sports content.

Wow. I think the lack of winning sports teams in this city has rotted some people's brains. I never realized that Rogers is grooming Jose Bautista for a suit role once he retires. Believe it or not, outside of Toronto, there have been teams with clubhouse issues too.

A white Darryl Strawberry is the best comparison

While Lind is getting called out for some of his dumbass/honest remarks, we have to remember it's the goof reporter responsible for all this. It's not like Lind blurted this stuff out unsolicited. That moron Elliott chased him down at the Brewers' training complex to get these valuable insights in a pathetic attempt to keep his career alive. Lind was probably taking this interview with " please f*** off, I'd like to get back to settling in and training with my new team now" in the back of his mind.

Which side? Obviously saying the output of one player is going to beat the output of twelve is the bold side of the deal. Even Michael Jordan would have a hard time winning a basketball game against a bunch of regular joes if the game is one on twelve.

You're several months too late to the party to play that card. Reference the Fire AA thread. It's amazing what the development of Stroman, Norris, some of the lower level prospects, a good draft and a great first few weeks of the off-season can do to change the tone of the fan base. Despite AA's (possibly on Beeston's command) bad moves and glaring weaknesses, the team is still in pretty good shape this year and the next couple of years going forward.

I found that strange too...like oddly stalkerish. I wonder if Melky knows how many hits Lind had last year? Unless of course the writer just edited that in later per Lind's permission if he recalled Melky having "a lot of hits". Honestly 171 hits is not THAT special outside of its context so it would be weird if that was Lind's direct quote.

....and Josh Donaldson has the chance to out-WAR all of them, combined, over the next 4 years. With just one roster spot used and one pay check to sign.

I don't get the obsession with Sanchez on this board. Barring injury, he's going to be on this squad. And most likely that will be in the pen where he will be a decent, but marginal contributor. Stroman pitching 180 IP versus 130 IP will have a far greater impact than whatever Sanchez will bring with 50 IP. If Sanchez does in 2015 what Loup has done every year so far, we should be happy with that. Sanchez might have good upside but that's not going to happen in 2015. Whatever his upside is in 2018 can be talked about in 2018.

Ricky's really lamenting that too.